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Monday, February 15th 2016, 10:09pm

To make a t9 set of gear instead of t9 would take dias or money to buy dias. Also aa has been nerfed so making t9s is harder unless you have money or dias.
And you right its cheaper to buy the best yellows than buhying oranges but demons are about 15 to 40mil ability are 20 to 40m triumps are about 20 to 40m to so lets say 20mil average x6 120m x 15 1.bil not including gear cost and and plussing and stuff so lets say 3bil.
Tell me the great "magio" how would some who is new make 3bil ? at least to do what your saying and thats me being modest seeing how im sure it could prob cost 4 or bil to do what you're saying what do i know tho.

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Monday, February 15th 2016, 10:50pm

lrn2math. also, proofread please before posting.

you are forgetting the fact that bag stats, shell pulls and (when they come around) proof events are also a decent source of stats.

tbh, most of your stats can be farmed solo (yeah, it won't be quick or easy, but entirely doable), so most of the "cost" of making gear is actually obtaining the gear itself (crafted or easymode, depending on stat distribution) and IS items to mod the gear (puries, plussers, as well as runes and drillers if you want, and i'll lump weapon teiring into this category as well). the former can be done for relatively cheap, or even free, if you find a decent guild, and a good portion of the latter can be obtained with ptokens (if you are shooting for the stars as soon as you begin, you should be spamming dailies anyways for the tp if nothing else).
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Monday, February 15th 2016, 11:07pm

Well i was going off on what magio was saying also it takes a day to make a pull and it all depends on luck and the odds of getting the stat you want are 1 in 6 or 1 in 5 i believe. so when i said taking a year without source of income or 2 years wasnt a lie.
Also like what the gm had said alreafdy bag stats and shells and other stats are fine to but you will be lacking in endgame you can run lower instances tho his question was how far can he make it as f2p and im basically stating how far he can go and how long will it take. also even if he were to get the stat he wanted everyday lets say 7 stats a week time 15 105 weeks or 2 years and 1 week.
Also obtaining crafted gear or easy mode gear will nt be able to help you run endgame and ppl will most likely will not want to run with you pom gear on the other hand is pretty viable as i use pomgear mixed with inistances gear and i do pretty well.
Also no guild is nice enough to spend thousands of dias on gearing a toon other than themselves they may lend you discounts but or a few hundred free dias which is rare but not thousands which are needed.
And what magio was stating was getting endgame gear or pom gear i believe not crafted or easy mode gear.
Also calculating the price of what your saying i would prob say a couple hundred mills if it were a reality but it is not.
And tbh i doubt this guy is reading this forum anymore because he hasnt replied. People are just trying to prove me wrong just for kicks and thats not cool and its deceitful.
If he wants to stay midgamer than what you are saying is correct if he is not you are absolutely wrong.
Also pom events isnt easy like i said b4 you need to make a lot of alts and get them attuned and tbh the player base isnt big enough for the guy to sell really since a lot of people quit and or geared already so dont need poms as they have enough poms and the gear.
Also him using the poms is another option getting od gear and stats would require i would like to say atleast 1000 poms and since you get about 120 poms in a week per toon on 1 account i would say he needs 8 to 10 alts.
plus since he needs to plus and tier thats like about 1 bil gold if he is lucky in plussing maybe 800m if were talking luck. but tbh i would say 2 bil but since we talking fantasy with guild helping a lot i would say 200m of gold in your eyes.
I also forgot to mention that since f2p is harder you will always basically be playing catch up unless you have the connections someone would have from playing the game for a long time and guild structure rom used to have.

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Monday, February 15th 2016, 11:14pm

Although it's been a while and idk what gear he's running with now, Haffi over in the EU servers was running content with t6 gear and carrying endgame runs. Clean tiering is not even necessary and neither is plussing every item.



F2P needs to spend time. He'll farm most of those stats. He won't buy them. That's where you're already wrong. So he doesn't need to "spend" billions. If he pulls for Dex/Pa and gets Str/Pa he could sell/trade.... simple.


There's 2 kinds of F2P. (And this is not an attack on anyone. People are free to enjoy the game the way they see fit...) The ones that sit around and just chat all day and the ones, like Soppy, that actually put time and effort into gearing and are endgame. Completely F2P endgamer not like the rest of us, who you already mentioned, who were P2P until we reached a point where we made enough gold to not need to buy diamonds.


Will his first set of gear will be super awesome? No.
Viable? Yes.


Skill > Gear.


At some point this thread deviated from F2P being possible with time to "you'll just have to be conformed with being a casual". *Looks at Yrcanos*


TL;DR Put in the time and you can do a lot in this game, even endgame, as F2P.
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Monday, February 15th 2016, 11:39pm

Rom is as expensive as you make it, you can invest time, money or some of both. There is no easy way to get to the top without either of these, proof events are a great starter for new players as long as they dont waste the opportunity

Rom has a huge wardrobe system that lets you put in looks and make 10 different looks with different colours etc.

Solo will only get you so far at first, you can get to level cap preety easily but after that you'll need to get groups to help you with instance quests etc..
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Monday, February 15th 2016, 11:55pm

last warning.stay on topic or i will take actions.

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Tuesday, February 16th 2016, 1:06am

Here's my take on the whole F2P deal(and everyone has their own view of it):

Some things you need diamonds for but can live without:
Expanded bag and bank space rental up to 6 months at a time. Not having your bags open makes carrying a lot of loot around difficult.
Coloring your gear requires diamonds on your account.
Some things require diamonds but can be bought from other players in exchange for gold. Gameforge is ok with it. Not an issue, but you will get a
terrible reputation if you don't honor the deal, and the seller has to
trust you to payThis is how a lot of F2P's do it:
Mounts can be rented for 2 hours from vendor or a "diamond seller" in the game can "Gift" a permanent one in exchange for gold.
Advanced Bind lifters for putting things into the wardrobe. Also needed to sell off gear that is bound at acquisition from instance or item shop. Again, you need a diamond seller.
There are a lot of similar "sort of necessary" things.
Some "Essential" things you can also get with phirius tokens by doing daily quests. 100 p-tokens are available per day per character. Purified Fusion stones, Refining gems(plussers) Transmutor charges. This is where the time factor comes in. It takes a bunch of these p-tokens to get it done.
The EULA allows 5 accounts per person, and you can run 8 toons per account. That's 40 toons a day. When the characters get high enough to do certain dailies, It can be done in under 2 hours. My favorite party run, available at level 69 and above is "Extinguish More Flames" in Rorazan. If done in party, all party members get credit for all fires extinguished. If your PC will run 5 clients at a time, you can run 8 parties of 5 in about an hour, even allowing for toon changes and crashes. You don't have to quest that far if you can find a friend to open the snoop in that zone for you with a portal rune, allowing you to get there. Then you can buy portal runes from diamond sellers to get more toons there. It will take a ton of time, close to a year just to get them there, assuming you do the highest level dailies you can to level 48 then inferno garden dailies to level 69.
At some point, going completely F2P, while it can be done, is painful, and Gameforge needs someone to buy enough diamonds to pay for staff and servers. You can obtain good enough gear to run hard mode with the best of them and once at that point, can use gear you get from the instances yourself. Good luck
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Tuesday, February 16th 2016, 1:09am

The EULA allows 5 accounts per person

small note, it's been clarified that this account number restriction does not apply to RoM.
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Tuesday, February 16th 2016, 3:23am

Wow! didn't think this thread will get so many replies :P

Anyway...

I don't really care about getting into endgame or raiding (if the game has raids)
Usually crafted gears (though tbh I'm not really into crafting..lol) or dungeon gears are fine for me.

I'm pretty casual most of the time but I don't mind putting some time on group stuffs or just practicing with skills.
Did I mention I don't pvp?
I'm guessing "diamonds" are the currency you get with real money?
I'm fine as long as there's an exchange system (trade in-game currency for..well you get the point)
Really,I was mostly thinking if the game has wardrobe you can put your gears in (I'm a sucker for customization xD)

That's all for now I guess.
I'll see it all once I'm in game.
...Once it finish downloading that is xD
sorry I didn't mention this earlier though

PS: I actually wrote a different reply but there was an error when i click submit and i'm too lazy to write it all again :L

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Tuesday, February 16th 2016, 3:27am

Their used to be an exchange system their isnt one anymore tho.

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Tuesday, February 16th 2016, 4:05am

Their used to be an exchange system their isnt one anymore tho.
There is still an exchange system worked through players only, which Gameforge allows. The exchange system that is no longer around is buying diamonds from other players through the Auction House and obtaining the diamonds on your own account. For 99% of their uses in game, the trust/gift method works perfectly fine.
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Tuesday, February 16th 2016, 4:13am

Really,I was mostly thinking if the game has wardrobe you can put your gears in (I'm a sucker for customization xD)

then you are in luck, RoM has the most extensive "wardrobe" system of many games i've tried.

sounds like you'd be fine with casual stuff, and that means there really isn't any reason you can't go completely f2p. even the items that you use to put skins in the wardrobe are 15 dias each, which is, at most, a couple mil gold each when purchased from players ingame (i consider myself "very poor", and i usually have 6mil on me just from random stuff. even the high level dailies for a couples days would make you more money than i have).
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Tuesday, February 16th 2016, 4:33am

If I'm correct I think he meant an exchange system in game like trading your gold for dias you can hold and store like we used to have like the ah and the npc trade off because dias selling between players was already mentioned.

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Tuesday, February 16th 2016, 4:46am

this is a quick video about the wardrobe that dardar made a while ago:



you can put any skins you want into the wardrobe, and use them on any characters on that server on that account. you can change up your outfits at any time (no cost), and even color each piece individuals.

essentially, once you collect the skins in the wardrobe, all customization is free.

the only exceptions are weapons/shields/talismans, which are not in the wardrobe currently, so you just have to use an aggregator on them, which destroys the item you got the skin from, but many of the cool weapon skins are decently farmable anyways. anywho, here's to hoping they add weapons to the wardrobe.
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Tuesday, February 16th 2016, 7:22am

Ty coming from the gm himself

Just sharing some thoughts.
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Tuesday, February 16th 2016, 2:52pm

Also if you place stuff in the magic wardrobe you can change the color for free!!! :beer:

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Tuesday, February 16th 2016, 3:11pm

Ty coming from the gm himself

Just sharing some thoughts.
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Wednesday, February 17th 2016, 2:14pm

Ty all for the replies!

Game finaly finished downloading and patching!


Picked mithras as server then choosed warr class.

Game's pretty fun so far! just finished the house quest and hoping to continue from there later.

PS: I usually don't mind (I play as human mostly anyway) but nice to see elves and dwarves in the game :thumbsup:

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Wednesday, February 17th 2016, 3:59pm

human has most comprehensive starting zone, so that's good.
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

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Thursday, February 18th 2016, 10:54pm

Humans have best starting zone, and are best for learning the game. But IMO Elves have best potential on average. Both elf-exclusive classes (druid and warden) are really good. Other races have good exclusive combos too, so try several once you learn the basics of the game.

Actually warrior is not the greatest starting class, unlike many other games. Other classes have a "skill" pool that is available at start of the fight - energy, focus, mana, etc. Warriors use rage, and you build it during the fight, That makes the start of the fight a little weak since you dont have enough rage to do much till the fight is half way done.
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