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Friday, January 23rd 2015, 12:15am

Well W/M and M/W are the classes I play for PvE. I'm talking from my own experience. 4% INT will do nothing for me unless bosses get buffed in the future. I've been buffing to 700-900k MATK on burn in PoMHM and HoE and the bosses get debuffed to 500k- MDEF. So yeah unnecessary. Should I quit now? :) Only thing I want from new set is 8% dmg without having to sacrifice all that MCrit. Those 4% Bonuses are just nice addons and not something I'm looking forward to from a PvE perspective.

If you're just saying you'd rather the brown set have 8% INT on the setbonus instead of 4% INT/STAM, k that's your opinion and I can respect that. What I thought you meant was you'd rather keep Aoth 8% INT than upgrade, and that's something I'd totally disagree with.
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Friday, January 23rd 2015, 4:50am

Magio, I agree with his comment about 8% int and upgrading......


cause it will take me 20 levels probably to get the new set. So not really a want more just a realization of grabbing what is in my means....




If I could get the new set, I would use it. Till then, ill make myself feel better by thinking the 4% int is the reason I am not.... :P

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Friday, January 23rd 2015, 5:29am

I just finished full Aoth OD and my guild can farm set for me, but I don't really see the point at the moment. Getting +20 jewels as f2p is pain+ dealing with UD items... Only positive thing about new set is crit, but HoE or PoM, crit is so random or same, does't make me rush for the set. In Siege, I'm doing fine with Aoth and Honor gear.
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Friday, January 23rd 2015, 7:54am

I could say I don't see the point in dropping the money into the game this point for... anything...


I can, could, probably would buy the new set, but really if I don't get it myself what is the point. I got my aoth by myself, I had paid someone to help me, but they were never on and I got the whole set myself. We are running PoM normal duo 1-3, so I am happy.

You gotta find fun in the game for yourself.. that is the point.

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Friday, January 23rd 2015, 9:46am

Hall of Earth 2nd - Maimed doing some fabulous DPS. Our Rogue lagged and Maimed picked up that slack.
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Friday, January 23rd 2015, 10:21am

The difference in crit between HoE and PoM is massive... there is actually crit resistance in HoE but there is none in PoM.


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Friday, January 23rd 2015, 12:52pm

Maimed got full set now?
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Friday, January 23rd 2015, 5:22pm

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The difference in crit between HoE and PoM is massive... there is actually crit resistance in HoE but there is none in PoM.
Yes, but outcome is still random after every boss.
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Saturday, January 24th 2015, 12:10am

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Maimed got full set now?

He does but he's not using it yet... LOL

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Yes, but outcome is still random after every boss.

I get like 90-100% crit in PoM most of the time. Of course there's that odd time that I get unlucky, but it's very rare. I can't do that in HoE. You use Aoth, right? Maybe that's why you think crit is random because yours is low?
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Saturday, January 24th 2015, 1:02am

How many runs will it take to get enough matts to make an Item? How long does each run take? I'm wondering about the level of effort it will take to get a set.

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Saturday, January 24th 2015, 1:27am

3 runs for one set. Then farming trash for 75 green drops. Killing all mobs before 1st boss gets you 2 in average. Last night we were able to clear in 45 minutes with no hiccups. We burn 1 and 2 in like 15 seconds. 3rd and 4th take a few minutes each cuz of the strat. One wipe and running back takes like 8-10 minutes.
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Saturday, January 24th 2015, 1:50am

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I get like 90-100% crit in PoM most of the time. Of course there's that odd time that I get unlucky, but it's very rare. I can't do that in HoE. You use Aoth, right? Maybe that's why you think crit is random because yours is low?
I crit quite high in PoM, 80-85%, m/w is usually higher.
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Saturday, January 24th 2015, 2:51am

Considering Intensification only buffs crit dmg, is 8% magic power better than that extra 15-20% crit rate?

When I don't crit on a flame I lose around 2-4m dmg.
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Saturday, January 24th 2015, 2:57am

dont notice any difference on crit with aoth/hoe set, w/m in guild has it already and hes not really critting much more in HoE then the other 2 w/m with aoth. PoM is prob another point entirely but not ran that place in ages since he got HoE set.
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Saturday, January 24th 2015, 7:18am

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I crit quite high in PoM, 80-85%, m/w is usually higher.
curious what your crit is with the aoth set?
I think I sit at 74.7% unbuff(w/aoth) and the crit accessories only give me about 4% more crit

Normally I crit about 90% in pomh unless I get really unlucky but I suppose the crit resist in newer instances will hurt a lot more
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Saturday, January 24th 2015, 9:51am

I will until the day someone shows me irrefutable evidence otherwise defend and support the ideology of M/X's sticking to 70% crit.

Between Paz and Murphy and other mages doing some pretty extensive testing, it seems to be the case that after 70% crit (for mage primary specifically) % power > more crit.

I would imagine a well geared M/W (which btw all the 70% crit theories were tested with iirc) with a well geared str/stam swap set who can get above the mDef of "X" boss, could thoroughly test this AGAIN for the billionth time and see.

That being said, if i were so inclined to do so , i could do the testing myself i suppose, as i run with hard mode instance sets and Aoth set.

W/M is a whole different animal in which i thoroughly believe yes, the more crit the better
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Saturday, January 24th 2015, 11:09am

I heard about that 70% cap. Those tests were 15 levels ago tho, iirc. Who knows what might've changed. If you want to stick to it I'd say retest it yourself.



Anyways I came here to show off!!! :D
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Saturday, January 24th 2015, 11:45am

That int/def though :D

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Saturday, January 24th 2015, 5:49pm

What setup would be best for a tank K/W? The stam set with the strength ring and earring? or the strength set with the stam ring and earring? I don't have an issues with surviveability just with holding aggro on the manic DPS's.

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Saturday, January 24th 2015, 5:56pm

I could see the new set being nice in that you can use for both PvE and PvP though. Honor gear really hurts that crit, even with crit accessories I' don't get much crit with full honor gear. Would kinda suck as mage having Aoth to go with that lol unless you make a seperate set of crit accessories for PvP.
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