Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "Nytefall;531948"

The title may be a bit misleading in this case - This thread is for the discussion of Exploits, Hacks and Cheats, and why you should not use them.

Bots are also disallowed, and you can find more information on why here: http://forum.us.runesofmagic.com/showthr…ll=1#post528672

Botting isn't really a "cheat", it is a disallowed client modification, and has more in common with "hacking" - Yet it is distinct from "hacking" as well.

As there are many threads discussing botting, please keep discussions about botting to one of those threads, and leave this one for exploits such as the item duplication mentioned in the original post.

OK thanks.

I hope this is on topic...

I have witnessed, and not reported, many people using an exploit to kill their characters (Mostly in IG) but from what I've seen in zone chat (again IG) it appears to be an acceptable practice amongst a large part of the player base.

Just curious about what the official standing is on this issue.

Quoted from "tronix93;531946"

Hypothetically speaking. Perhaps this same logic could be used to make people who use wanton vulgarity in open chats "go missing" as well. I see far too many people talking about children, religions and sexual things they can do with both seemingly without punishment. Some of these people have been in game for years and are still there, every time I log in. You should have a ZERO TOLERANCE policy for that as well.

The game is rated Teen, I'm not looking to play a game with a zero tolerance on language, as for religion who cares, I've never seen religious discussion in Zone, maybe in guild but if your entire guild is okay with it then you may need to quit. As for children I talk about my kids by saying"Kids are driving me crazy"

Really you and this zero tolerance idea should go play an mmo with no chat at all, I can just see you now sending multiple tickets into support to the point they just block you. Technically no one under 17 should be playing with the game being rated Teen. But this whole morality zero tolerance, I'll report you for saying cave and Johnny Depp is the kind of censorship that will cost you paying customers. Sometimes in life you just have to let things slide if they are not excessive or malicious.

Was that rant offensive to anyone? Back in 1994 Jeremy Piven was in a movie called PCU, I found it over the top funny back then, I watched it again recently and that movie was an Oracle.

Quoted from "regentego;531971"

The game is rated Teen, I'm not looking to play a game with a zero tolerance on language, as for religion who cares, I've never seen religious discussion in Zone, maybe in guild but if your entire guild is okay with it then you may need to quit. As for children I talk about my kids by saying"Kids are driving me crazy"

Really you and this zero tolerance idea should go play an mmo with no chat at all, I can just see you now sending multiple tickets into support to the point they just block you. Technically no one under 17 should be playing with the game being rated Teen. But this whole morality zero tolerance, I'll report you for saying cave and Johnny Depp is the kind of censorship that will cost you paying customers. Sometimes in life you just have to let things slide if they are not excessive or malicious.

Was that rant offensive to anyone? Back in 1994 Jeremy Piven was in a movie called PCU, I found it over the top funny back then, I watched it again recently and that movie was an Oracle.

Not sure what country you live in but in the USA, rated teen is 13+ Rated M is 17+

Quoted from "kingzamorak;531973"

Not sure what country you live in but in the USA, rated teen is 13+ Rated M is 17+

I'm in the US, didn't know that but it does say "Language and partial nudity" so its okay for the game to curse but not its users? Hell there is a quest where you smear poop on yourself! You can't punish players for dropping the random "S" word. You let some of these people think they can flood support for saying "Oh Sh..." then we will officially be a Theocracy, I will take my money elsewhere.

it is possible to mail guild merrits if they are in your bags after siege.they will stay in mailbox for the 30 days.i do not know if you can get them out right b4 you enter siege.i have never tried.

Quoted from "timthum;532000"

it is possible to mail guild merrits if they are in your bags after siege.they will stay in mailbox for the 30 days.i do not know if you can get them out right b4 you enter siege.i have never tried.

They disappear on map change, I bought some from someone a long time ago when they were on AH, they're designed to disappear if you use any transport function.

Also, in terms of the 'rune dupe video' (which I'm assuming was on the EU forums), how do we know that the runes that we buy from people etc weren't duped?

How about they just put the Beta tag back on the game. They probably can't do that because there would have to be more staff involvement to actually filter feedback properly.

The last 2 patches have corrupted many installations and now we don't even get a proper notification about servers being down without going to the European sites? Sales doesn't pay attention to our demands, bugs remain unfixed and new ones are cropping up, exploits run rampant in siege but it's accepted because it is "Beta" meanwhile the game as a whole has more exploits available than siege ever could.

Gameforge/Frogster/Runewaker need to do something seriously or you will tear the community away from you which is the most pathetic way for a game to die. I think I'll go load up unreal tournament (from the late 90s) and still find more people actively working with it.

Here is my thought, get rid of all macros and add-ons. Make people work to play. I know, no one including my guild will agree, I don't use a single Macro and I have no add ons I need.

Dio says an add-on is an exploit so just tell me which so I can delete it.

Quoted from "regentego;532225"

Here is my thought, get rid of all macros and add-ons. Make people work to play. I know, no one including my guild will agree, I don't use a single Macro and I have no add ons I need.

Dio says an add-on is an exploit so just tell me which so I can delete it.

Start talking like that and you might as well just take the servers offline now

Without addons.... this game would be unplayable for me. It would just be.. horrible.

The day they ban add-ons from this game will be the day the game truly dies. I don't think it made it through the forum re-design, but there was a thread a long time ago about add-ons that -should- be actual parts of the game, because of how essential they are (and there were more than a few). Like Borella said, these add-ons basically make the game playable, because the game at default lacks certain functions that should be there automatically.

Take these away and the game will feel rather barren and lacking quite a bit. One good example of such an add-on is AAH. And FYI, MegaMouse, banning the AAH add-on won't do anything but piss people off and force everyone to do trades outside the auction house. It would not do what you expect and drive prices down. The AH default limit is also very, very outdated, as it was made way before inflation ever set in. It makes no sense in today's economy.

Quoted from "Dionaea;532343"

[Update]

• Experience, Loot, Reconciliation etc. Runes of a high tier, which were only available through our item shop (tiers III – VII) and those that can’t be built with in-game material VIII, IX and X):
  [*=1]Both runes and gold will be removed from buyer and seller
  

I see what you are saying here and the proability is that high level Recons were duped. Still, it is possible to make Recons with other materials. I am essentially 1 Advance VII from making a Recon 8 so it is possible, just unlikely as there are no new mats coming in anymore.

What is unfortunate is that, due to the CS change and alignment with FEU items, an item that was commonly avalable is basically unobtainable now. Recons really are a big line in the sand for people that got to end(ish) game before X-mas and after. This has an effect on both what people can run and who they can run with. I don't want to take this further off track into the details but I think most reading this know what I mean.

The reason I mention it is, issues like that can tempt even the most moral people to break the rules. When somone puts massive amounts of time, effort, and (probably) money into a toon and finds that it will always* be second class because a once common item disappeared without a trace, people do things they wouldn't otherwise. I get what the issue is with having Recons, or rather the materials for the Recons, frequently available and relatively inexpensive, I do... I guess... But cutting off the supply completely just contributes to the static nature of the endgame. I understand why somone would give in to temptation in that case. I don't agree with it but I do understand...


*You could, potentially make the mats from I, II, III, and IV mats but this would take massive amounts of time and money given charges and the fact that the rank V runes only drop from a mini and you need 56 rank I runes per combine. Compare this with being able to make a Recon VIII in a few min before the change.

so is putting flame towers and faces of treachery under a tower in siege an exploit ?

Quoted from "timthum;532443"

so is putting flame towers and faces of treachery under a tower in siege an exploit ?

No.

Show me how to build a recon! for some silly reason SHIELD runes cant be made. No SHIELD no RECON.