Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "Deonemage;576966"

Not sure if trolling or just a re.. umm.. we'll leave the other term out in case it offends someone

If you truly expect someone to pay about $2000 USD for a rune, well my friend IDK what to tell you.

Sadakko wouldn't have to care because Dakko already has a recon X.

They should sell at least Recon 7's in the item shop, at least until they fix Knight aggro. It's ridiculous how easy it is for classes that only get one recon to take aggro.

Absolutely agree on having it where it can be made

Quoted from "camagic;576542"

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

What NEEDS to happen is fixing the arcane transmuter for the rune formulas and allowing shields to be made.

look how can recons hurt the game machins it dont make the boss hit any less or make the strats for boss fight any easier and you can do runs if you dont have a tank i dare all of you to do KBN HM with out a tank that can hold aggro or try running it at all without haveing recons please fraps it so that i may enjoy watching you wipe look its plain and simple even cut and dry tanks with two hatred 10s (knight/scout or Knight/Rogue) push themselfs to the limit with aggro and can barly keep agrro off people with 2 recon V (rogue/scout for example) with this aggro imbalnce KBN HM and istances of the same caliber are near impossiable unless said group consisted of people with Recons of VII + which for one recon on atremis you might pay 50m-80m for one and they are rare to see on the action house

Yes they should be in the item shop and they should be able to be crafted. Hatred and recons should alos not stack. They should be implemented like raid/curse runes affecting only the weapon they are in. Negative aggro is a joke.

Quoted from "Karza;576985"

Yes they should be in the item shop and they should be able to be crafted. Hatred and recons should alos not stack. They should be implemented like raid/curse runes affecting only the weapon they are in. Negative aggro is a joke.

I would agree with this as long as aggro modifiers are also changed. I would actually love to see every class being able to equip bows or offhands or w/e so they can get stat bonuses off them as well, even if not able to be used. Just think it's crazy how much of a difference 1 item can make to patk such. Also would prob increase the diversity in this game.

donno if anyone has tried tosh or even kulech bones nest, but as i see it is that, yes it's not a burn fight.
so even if it's not a burn fight, if pplz had recon vii's only no matter what only a few hits, there is a great risk of taking aggro.
and some of the bosses in these instants are like a timer base, where after a certain amount of time, the boss enrages. and when they do, it only hits the tank for about 150k per hit. i do agree you do need skills to watch treat meter. but it's not possible if the boss are on a timer, while u have to watch aggro @.@ would make certain bosses close to impossible to kill.

TBH if they are gonna sell recons they shouldnt sell any higher than V. Reason i say this is if you put VII on the item shop.. I will personally beone of those people that spends a ton of money and gets two recon X's and ill be negative aggro alll by myself with no help of a k/p. It would be epic and make things on my part a lot easier, but i do APPRECIATE the difficulty of coming across a t9 recon or even t8, I atm have a recon IX and a recoN 8, and worked and worked my butt off to get them. But froggy doesnt seem to care either way, i mean i spent a fortune making ferocity VII the hard way with endurance and resistance t3 runes. And now they only 12 dia. so there u go.
anyways, just forewarning you, i know of a ton of people that would do the same as me, and wed have a lot of people running around with negative aggro without even the use of a third recon, and then it takes the skill out of being a tank too, they can blow kisses at the boss and hold aggro. thats my two cents. Orrrr if you really did want to sell t7 recons or shields etc. make them stupidly expensive so people dont buy 125 of them at a time lol.

If you have people with neg agro, you dont even need a tank, just get a warden's crystal pet out and blast the boss apart.

The argument that "I had to sell a couple of my organs on the black market to make a recon IX back in the day" (Slight exaggeration but you get my point ) isn't a valid one. Yes, you may have broke your wallet to make one a long time ago, but you should have realized that the price you were paying was temporary and that it was subject to change with or without any notice. RoM is gonna modify prices/game as they wish, so if they want to put recon VII in item shop for 12, that's their choice. You can't be mad that others are paying less than you did.

Also, sure having negative aggro does make everyone's job A LOT easier, but some classes NEED negative aggro in order to DPS. On my M/W before they added -20% aggro to Activate Mana, I had -97% aggro. With -97% aggro, if I tried to do my full burn straight up, then I'd be sucking on the floor faster than I could use candy. (Heck, I think I left a permanent indent in Letin's floor from pulling aggro)

Here's my solution:

Short term plan: Put recon's in the itemshop, and enable shields to be made in AT again
Long term: Work on redo-ing the aggro system

No recons = restricted dps, restricted dps = no need to gear up or increase dps, no gear up = less diamonds bought.

So basically, many of you are saying you don't want recons, yes I don't want recons either! but it doesn't seem like we have a choise. No recons would mean that dps can't go all out, and if they can't, why should anyone get the best gear possible and/or tier all equipment t8-10+ etc etc (unless you plan to pvp where aggro doesn't matter, cause pvp is fun, that's why pvp servers hold 90% of all rom players).

Fix the aggro system? Rebalance aggro? No it wont happen, you want them to do work and get no pay?
Just give us the recon runes and let us get neg aggro, rom makes some money, everyone is happy.

Quoted from "cocktailshower;577332"

No recons = restricted dps, restricted dps = no need to gear up or increase dps, no gear up = less diamonds bought.

So basically, many of you are saying you don't want recons, yes I don't want recons either! but it doesn't seem like we have a choise. No recons would mean that dps can't go all out, and if they can't, why should anyone get the best gear possible and/or tier all equipment t8-10+ etc etc (unless you plan to pvp where aggro doesn't matter, cause pvp is fun, that's why pvp servers hold 90% of all rom players).

Fix the aggro system? Rebalance aggro? No it wont happen, you want them to do work and get no pay?
Just give us the recon runes and let us get neg aggro, rom makes some money, everyone is happy.

Let me fix that for you.

Bad DPS can't do full DPS.

Start learning how to play a DPS class properly and learn to also use all what is available to you.

Even with Hatred runes in my gear, I couldn't pull aggro from my own tank.

Quoted from "mrmisterwaa;577345"

Let me fix that for you.

Bad DPS can't do full DPS.

Start learning how to play a DPS class properly and learn to also use all what is available to you.

Even with Hatred runes in my gear, I couldn't pull aggro from my own tank.

No but Chiron can!
On second thought, we really don't need them as badly as I thought we do, end-gamers have the runes they need already. It's not that big of an issue unless you don't have a tank or aren't running end-game material.

Quoted from "mrmisterwaa;577345"

Bad DPS can't do full DPS.

So reroll a w/m or a wd/s if you think your dps is that bad. Get some perspective on things. There are many end game dpsers who an't go all out because they would pull aggro. Recons are a way for the dps to individually increase their dps. If you spend tens of thousands of diamonds and can't go all out because you generate too much aggro, then why should you have spent all those diamonds in the first place? This is a game that encourages limitless upgrades, recons are an essential part of that.

Sekrit ur such a silly goose. But i enjoy all ur lies since day one. Any who, simple fact remains k/s with 2 hatredXs vs r/s with 2 Recon IXs in full burst mode will lose aggro in 2 swings. Ive even seen a r/s with 90% rip aggro in a heart beat. But i also remember the days long before every1 had these runes. Back when aggro managment mattered, back when a vanish was not only a pvp utility but a means to save ur butt in pve when bursting. Miss the days of when dps had to turn and back off. We have a w/m in guild with the issue and he is slowly learning wat it used to be like. Good players(skilled players) dont need recons or hatreds. The runes are a crutch to lazy ppl. You may not burst dps like u do now but QQ another river, flex them epeens somewhere else. 100% of this game is strat and needs to get back to that. The runes are just a crutch.

Quoted from "cloudstryker;577652"

Sekrit ur such a silly goose. But i enjoy all ur lies since day one. Any who, simple fact remains k/s with 2 hatredXs vs r/s with 2 Recon IXs in full burst mode will lose aggro in 2 swings. Ive even seen a r/s with 90% rip aggro in a heart beat. But i also remember the days long before every1 had these runes. Back when aggro managment mattered, back when a vanish was not only a pvp utility but a means to save ur butt in pve when bursting. Miss the days of when dps had to turn and back off. We have a w/m in guild with the issue and he is slowly learning wat it used to be like. Good players(skilled players) dont need recons or hatreds. The runes are a crutch to lazy ppl. You may not burst dps like u do now but QQ another river, flex them epeens somewhere else. 100% of this game is strat and needs to get back to that. The runes are just a crutch.

someone who understands it. I get pretty annoyed when dps tell me they don't want to do a run because the tank cant hold aggro against there dps.... and im thinking if u dont spam attack like a rabbit humping maybe u wont get urself killed. sometimes players are too impatient and want a run to be done in 5 seconds. I play both a healer and a dps, ive had issues holding aggro against certain tanks all i do is stop attack switch off my auto shot and back the fk up until my aggro goes down, i jump back in and start pocking my arrows at it. This concept seems to be too complicated for majority of players today.

I currently use a Reconciliation 5 in my mainhand weapon, however I don't really see the effect it has since most of the people I party with are crazy end game geared. I don't think I would care too much if they remained unobtainable seeing as when you're fighting a boss, it requires teamwork, knowing what to do and when to do it.

Reconciliations make it far easier for tanks to hold aggro and while they may be happy for that, you don't just choose to play tank on a whim, you should know how to use it and be able to hold aggro on your own. Hatred runes are a nice bonus when it comes to that, but I think Reconciliations are just a little bit superfluous.

As for Shield runes, I'm not too sure what they do or what stats they provide so I can't provide any insight into that.

The recon makes my damage better right?
or at least some sort of stat increase?
... pvp dmg?

oh just aggro... whats the big deal? yeash I'd figure people would be more mad over raid and wrath X's

Just sell the runes and be done with it, having a 9 page thread about a virtual item that helps everyone all around is stupid. I don't care what justification you are trying to give about wanting a contructive conversation about it, you guys have sold less important and unneeded items in your cash shop before.

Stop over thinking and trying so much and just do.

something I really miss is to have 15x Shield X runes, I would love that extra wisdom. However, they decided to make them part of the recon combination, and Advance is more imnportant right? since it's for dps. So ofc they have to slap the healers and deny them their X runes.

Quoted from "cocktailshower;577749"

something I really miss is to have 15x Shield X runes, I would love that extra wisdom. However, they decided to make them part of the recon combination, and Advance is more imnportant right? since it's for dps. So ofc they have to slap the healers and deny them their X runes.

No healer in their right mind would actually use Shield... that's ridiculous.