Patch 6.0.0: Undocumented changes

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Wednesday, June 5th 2013, 12:48am

use the damn reset stone while being knight primary. problem with the tp solved. the total amount of tp on the class is identical. ALL TP in any Knight/X skills will be freed up and able to be applied to whatever you like again. (And yes, i did it.)

the skills did not become more expensive per se as far as i see it either (we will probably update the skill cost tables too on the romwelten page) BUT some skills were uncapped that were capped to 50 before. 50 to 77 or 80 costs a LOT of tp. (51 to 72 is 17M TP alone on the old Hatred skill which is now uncapped!) And some other skills that were not skillable before are now skillable , that costs TP too. But they seem to be useful so far, so you actually want to skill them.

So:
you did not "lose" any TP.
the reset stone is there for a reason (the automatic reset of the skills was somewhat ... bugged), use it.

A lot of skills were changed, some uncapped were they were capped to 50 before therefore you will spend more TP on them. And some skills that were not skillable previously are now. AND to maximum.

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Choralone42

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Wednesday, June 5th 2013, 12:54am

Also it's sort of documented, but the public events in places like Chrysalia have been completely nerfed down to 50 points per turn in. The patch notes just say "Adjustments to the Public Quest points of the following public quests in Tergothen Bay, Ancient Kingdom of Rorazan, Chrysalia, Merdhin Tundra and Syrbal Pass"

When what they should say is "Don't bother farming EOJ's any more!"

WTB name change on my alt toon due to P/S IB nerf.

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Southern

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Wednesday, June 5th 2013, 12:59am

Looks like you can buy "Bag of Ruby Stones" (50 Guild Rubies) at one of the Honor Points vendors now, cost is 400 Phirius Tokens (?) and 20,000 Honor Points.

lol..

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sertet

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Wednesday, June 5th 2013, 1:13am

Quoted from "zidlef;603351"

So basicly, Gameforge didn't have time to either translate from korean to german then to english for all the patches we got.

[COLOR=white !important]If you right click materials like herb, ore and wood you can deassemble them to a lower grade ;-) YEAH!!!!

Honor points disappear to a max of 25K no matter how many you got, even if you try to spend them, pook down to 25K, sad.

Not enough info for siege war times and participation

Knights got a few things finally but get screwed on their TP, skills cost more and skills we had that are gone, so is the TP. Anyone care to send us like 30X TP 1M orbs please to fix this??

To use mementos, P-shells, POM's or EOj's you need to right click them to stick them in bank on 5 tab of your character thing, could have put P-tokens too while at it ;-(

Now gotta learn to play knight/scout again with new skills ;-(

Would be nice to have a translator to give the true patch notes, or give them to us in korean and we will do it.

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Knights did NOT lose tp or get raised costs.

A K/P got one elite skill capped to 50 instead of 80

Shield of Truth was not upgradeable before, the replacement skill is.
Holy Seal was not upgradeable before, the replacement skill is.

so you have more skills to upgrade than before.

Check before you spout garbage.

A real sysadmin knows how to change the time.
If you make the same mistake while trying to make up for the previous one, you are doing something wrong.

As much as I'd love to say I offer consulting services, the scope of things broken is too large.

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Garmulan

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Wednesday, June 5th 2013, 1:14am

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[Hatred Strike] changed to [Holy Strength]: The skill description reads now:
PLV = 1: Increases Strength by 1% and Light damage dealt by you, by 1% for 15 seconds. (The maximum level of this skill is 50.)
PLV = 50: Increases Strength by 20% and Light damage dealt by you, by 20% for 15 seconds. (The maximum level of this skill is 50.)

No 20% increase to light damage seen. But 20% strength is given. Oh well after all it is ROM and just a description

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sman987

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Wednesday, June 5th 2013, 2:16am

Quoted from "Choralone42;603358"

Also it's sort of documented, but the public events in places like Chrysalia have been completely nerfed down to 50 points per turn in. The patch notes just say "Adjustments to the Public Quest points of the following public quests in Tergothen Bay, Ancient Kingdom of Rorazan, Chrysalia, Merdhin Tundra and Syrbal Pass"

When what they should say is "Don't bother farming EOJ's any more!"

And they took out Demonstration Battle altogether ...

Ironmansam -- 95/75/61 -- R/M/S
Miniiron -- 95/77/50/50 -- Ch/R/M/P
Tingtingthethird -- 95/72/60 -- D/Wrd/S
Firesvanity -- 95/60/76/50 -- K/M/W/P
And many more...
Heavensfury is kinda great I guess

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sertet

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Wednesday, June 5th 2013, 2:59am

Quoted from "sman987;603379"

And they took out Demonstration Battle altogether ...

as a public event, the daily is still there

A real sysadmin knows how to change the time.
If you make the same mistake while trying to make up for the previous one, you are doing something wrong.

As much as I'd love to say I offer consulting services, the scope of things broken is too large.

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Borella

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Wednesday, June 5th 2013, 3:02am

Quoted from "sertet;603388"

as a public event, the daily is still there

So they just don't want people doing EoJ's at all.. jesus. This game is so bad.

Borella - 100 W/M/S/R/P/K

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If you play P/K in instances you're garbage

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zidlef

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Wednesday, June 5th 2013, 3:09am

Well i had 232M TP, now i have 208M TP so ya i lost some in this ;-(

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BTW i do live under a bridge, i am Green, i can dish it out as good as i get
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YomanROM

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Wednesday, June 5th 2013, 3:19am

Surely mistaking "current" (=free to spend) with "total" (=free to spend+already spent) ?

my "total" value did not change a single bit.

If you are 100% sure that something is missing you'll have to deal with support. But i checked with multiple other knights of different combos and everything seemed fine.

total tp will not change, and after the use of a skill reset stone current=total.

"current" looked like a real mess on my char because 2-3 skills did not reset , and they switched places with one skill which held the tp (discipline shield <> the mp skill , one was capped, one not, but all tp were "used" ) ... reset stone solved it.

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YomanROM

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Wednesday, June 5th 2013, 3:20am

and the amount you are missing sounds like roughly the amount of <skill capped at 50> vs <skill at 77>, because the difference is roughly 24M tp.

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sertet

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Wednesday, June 5th 2013, 3:25am

Quoted from "YomanROM;603400"

and the amount you are missing sounds like roughly the amount of <skill capped at 50> vs <skill at 77>, because the difference is roughly 24M tp.

Yep, I screenshotted every character and its skills and its tp totals. It was exactly the same.

Of course if you havent reset and are comparing current to old current, it will be messed up. A few skills had lots of points in them that aren't allowed in the new layout.

A real sysadmin knows how to change the time.
If you make the same mistake while trying to make up for the previous one, you are doing something wrong.

As much as I'd love to say I offer consulting services, the scope of things broken is too large.

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wggp

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Wednesday, June 5th 2013, 4:08am

Quoted from "zidlef;603394"

Well i had 232M TP, now i have 208M TP so ya i lost some in this ;-(

yep I lost some too, I think the issue is that my lvl 77 shield of discipline is now capped at lvl 50 so where did all that TP go?

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YomanROM

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Wednesday, June 5th 2013, 4:22am

use the skill reset stone you got at first login today after patch. they are blocked, not lost. the reset stone will free everything up again.

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sman987

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Wednesday, June 5th 2013, 4:56am

http://www.mediafire.com/view/myfiles/#rc4pv0p2edccrcp

Ok so sorry you guys have to open a new tab up but those are 3 things I noticed

1. In the your character icon it is not showing the full head, also when clicking on another player it shows chest, part of the head, etc. but never the head.

2. The Stats!?!?!?!?! I Know it isn't something that they have to tell us but it would have been nice to know and if it is a bug or glitch... now they know

3. The stats don't have a roman numeral, so my question is can they still be used as pushers?

Well those are some things I noticed ... would be nice to get a reply from a mentor/CM/GM

Ironmansam -- 95/75/61 -- R/M/S
Miniiron -- 95/77/50/50 -- Ch/R/M/P
Tingtingthethird -- 95/72/60 -- D/Wrd/S
Firesvanity -- 95/60/76/50 -- K/M/W/P
And many more...
Heavensfury is kinda great I guess

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oregonnerd

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Wednesday, June 5th 2013, 5:08am

'[COLOR=white !important]total tp will not change, and after the use of a skill reset stone current=total. '

And that's the way it is supposed to work. The errors however that occurred where some tp was lost were oddly enough rogue and mage.
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Alecvisable

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Wednesday, June 5th 2013, 5:55am

Lol, Maybe i shouldn't Log in incase this is a Bug that they didn't Intend to do (Although it's part of the Managing Company's Moto to screw us

So most likely the cap is intended.

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Southern

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Wednesday, June 5th 2013, 7:41am

Undocumented Change (at least I can't find it documented):

Converting Herb/Ore/Wood from a lower color to a higher color now gives more Crafting XP the higher the conversion process.

IE., at least 76 Herbalism, I was getting .03 skill for converting from White to Green, .06 from Green to Blue (Sap) and .11 from Blue to Purple (Extract).

IIRC correctly, it used to give the same amount no matter the level being converted.