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Wednesday, January 4th 2012, 4:36am

Star plussing... A jewel !

Greetings,

I am kinda new to this game, but I am a long time player of MMOs, and I love glowing weapons.

Got interested in weapon plussing (as this was a VERY hard feature in another MMO so wanted to try my luck here).

You have to remember I am a mathematical gambler. If there is a flaw, I will find IT.

Did some experimenting on the star Jewels. Read up on some posts after SO SO many failures with the regular gems.

Then I thought, why not try with some items shop items (was a preacher before, but now I'm rich, so [923] IT, I'll just buy diamonds).

Bought 30 star jewels revelation. I used them on a level 20 weapon (I know this makes all you poor people angry), but I figured item shop items had a MUCH lower failure rate.

Was unable to get higher than +4 on regular star jewels(used more than 90), but got to +6 with the revelation star jewels in 14 star jewels (you do the math on the fail and win).

One other side note, was hard to get this game activated and actually give you guys money. Beggar tip : Make giving money to you easy.

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Wednesday, January 4th 2012, 4:43am

Now have fun on the +7 -> +12 jewels...and again on the +13 -> +16 ones. Even if you don't care about the performance increase, +13->+16 range looks way better than anything lower...significant aesthetic jump, IMO.

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Wednesday, January 4th 2012, 5:06am

Greetings,

Thanks barbrady123, I will be sure to check on those when I get higher level in this game.

I forgot to add a question to my initial post (got a bit excited about this first impression thing, walking into a forum of scholars).

My question is : How do you merge pet eggs, and how do you value a pet when you capture IT ?

I experimented with the eggs I caputred from te magic cavy, but I have difficulty on knowing the "good eggs" from the bad. More specifically, is the value based on the growth multipliers or the aptitude (what is the aptitude score for anyways ?)

I am getting mixed results with sales. Why are some getting bought so fast as others just sit on the shelves ?

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Wednesday, January 4th 2012, 6:29am

its based on many factors, but most often its the apt, the higher the expensiver, a high apt would be high 70 to 80s and they often get sold quite quickly, i wont say much about the quality of the egg since even though it goes as such (holy>magical>amazing>natural>wild) the last 3 dont play a big role on prices, usually you see them posted at same price, so dark 75 apt natural egg would be costing about the same as natural one with same attributes, but magical are quite expensiver, and holy are worth millions if its a dark or earth element. also if you get a rune egg its about 100k but i cant tell about other servers since im only in arthemis

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Thursday, January 5th 2012, 1:30am

heres what i know about plussing. the lower an items star rating, the easier it is to plus. plus before tiering, modding. also, higher level than necassary jewels fail less. also, repair before +ing
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Thursday, January 5th 2012, 2:16pm

Weapons with stats are much harder to teir up then clean weapons. Usually you start with NPC jewel to +1, use regualr jewels to +4, perfect one to +6, regular again to +10 and prefect one for last two, to +12.

So far I've seen only perfect +16 one, and use them. (never was found of gashas :))

As for pet & eggs, there is very helpful tutorial on pets.

Basically, for production pet, any pet will work. Just get pet of any element, purchase tools from pet vendor and make it produce it.

For fighting pet and every day companion you like to get Holy pet with element that will complement your class choice.

Once you have Holy pet, first thing is to rise the Aptitude without severely rising it's level. Blue Rune Eggs (very expensive) are good start, to 90-something. After that you have to chain-merge pets of the same element and use training points you get to level aptitude. (1000 training points for 1 aptitude) But at this point you already know that rising good pet is very expensive and most required item is Golden Eggs. You can either farm them (hate that), get them from AH (again, back to expensive part) or hope that Mr. Owenstein (NPC that used to sell them) will be back in business.

Pet's do help a lot, for example my current playing pet is only level 17 and gives me over 1K HP, 350 inteligence (which translates into 700mAtk) and a bit less then 300 Wisdom. It's fire type (for mage) and transformed into Parrot (good buffs for Mage).

Very expensive, but as well, very rewarding.

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Thursday, January 5th 2012, 5:18pm

plussing using reg gems from npc, how many it takes on average to get to +4 and +3?

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Thursday, January 5th 2012, 5:47pm

Answer to that question is 'too many'.

Just don't even try to do it, as it really does not work that well. +1 is not that hard, but anything after that is more of a loose then gain.

IMHO Frogester should do something about that, enable it to + to +3 or +4 with NPC dias, and CS jewel should not have drop rate at all, but I guess they are busy with other staff to take care of this.

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Thursday, January 5th 2012, 7:26pm

Yeah, the fail rate on vendor jewels is high enough that doing it past +1 is not really worth it. You would have to get two success in a row, and that is not really likely when to get one success you deal with 10-15 fails on average.

Pet eggs are very much overpriced in AH. Very few, besides Holy or blue Rune are worth what they ask.
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Thursday, January 5th 2012, 7:35pm

Quoted from "vfwiffo;499486"

Pet eggs are very much overpriced in AH. Very few, besides Holy or blue Rune are worth what they ask.


Tell me something about it...

And those Fire pets... WAY OVERPRICED imho.:D

BTW, is that uncle Stalin in someone's avatar??

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Thursday, January 5th 2012, 7:55pm

i believe yes, or at least an actor, its supposed to be a nice gif of him signing papers and smoking his pipe but no gifs on this forums work :(

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Saturday, January 7th 2012, 12:43am

Funny you should ask about pet egg values, it seems literally NOBODY (hardly) understands how to price eggs...so frustrating. I would say well over 90% of the eggs, at least on my server, will NEVER sell at their current prices. It's like people capture eggs, but they don't ever actually use the pet system, so their prices just make no sense.

Here's what's valuable...

Low level holy eggs...it's way, way better to start a low level pet, chain-merge to get the aptitude as high as possible, then level it. You get way better stats than than say, buying some level 20+ holy pet out the gate. These pets can go for a few mil easy, especially if the aptitude is decent (say..80+)...even more so when the element corresponds to the FOTM classes (usually dark LOL).

Pets with high aptitude of ANY type...say 85+ ish (and ridiculously priced if 90+)...especially if they are low level. Nice to have these in rune form so that anybody regardless of their pet element can use them to level their aptitude.

After that...pretty much NO EGG should be very expensive. ALL NON-HOLY pets are useless except for chain merging/leveling...(unless they fit the high aptitude rule above). NO EGG of any element type/aptitude is worth creating an actual long-term pet out of unless it starts out holy (and fairly low level..like 1-5, in my opinion).

I'd say 90% of eggs should be like 5k-50k range. And under NO circumstances does it ever make sense to have an egg price more than 350k (100 x Miller's Cake value) unless it's a (fairly low level) holy or 85+ aptitude.

Sorry, had to rant there...I'm a big egg buyer because of all my alts...and it's just annoying that 90% of the market in the AH is a waste.