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MegaMouseSEC

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Sunday, January 29th 2012, 10:30pm

Some insight about the AH

Ok guys I am posting this mainly for the money hungry out there.

This is what I hate about the AH

1 Putting items in it costs gold. Ok nothing will be done about that one and we all know it.

2 The higher the price of the Item the more gold it costs us to post it. Kinda counter productive if you have to repost an item several times it doesn't sell due to your price beign outrageously high.

3 It costs even more gold the longer the item is posted for. Again the higher the price of the item you just posted the more you will ahve to pay to be able to post it for more than one day.

It is counter productive to stick an item in the AH for more gold that most players have or will see. If you do not sell it the first time you have to pay to post it again costing you gold to do so. Wouldn't it be smarter to stick said item in teh AH at a lower price and sell it than to have it come back to you and you ahving to spend more gold to post it again in teh hopes that someone will want it bad enough to pay your outrageous price?
Personaly i would rather sell something at a lower price than have it ever come back to me. When posting Items I take into account what it actualy cost me in gold to get said item. If it was a drop from a dungeon isn't it smarter to just figure out the gold cost of an advanced unbinder and then MAYBE raise the price a few thousand instead of sticking it out of reach of the general player?
Think on that those of you who think everything costs hundreds of millions in gold. Another thing I dislike seeing in the AH is items that ahve been statted just so you can get more gold for it. Again I guess you like to pay the gold to have it reposted int eh AH time and time again when it wont sell at what you think it is worth.
I can understand wanting a bit more for an item that is OD, but come on guys, use some common sence here. High prices mean items wont sell fast if at all. Low prices means money in your pocket faster.

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Monday, January 30th 2012, 1:47am

Some people put them in there because it doesn't cost a whole lot of gold to do so. They put them in there like that kind of as a storage extension. If you think about it...it's like..3,000 x 30 gold for 30 slots of storage space for 3 days.

People do it on Reni all the time. I've seen the same piece of Ardmond's Plate Armour in there for months for 450m gold. not OD.

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Monday, January 30th 2012, 1:52am

the idea is to make you post your wares at "reasonable" prices so they sell the first time, rather than having to suffer repeated charges to repost because you want to make 10m gold for a pair of under-dura Knight Shin Gaurds.

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Monday, January 30th 2012, 7:28pm

You got it Silenteye7. But most players have no clue and attempt to get unreasonable ammounts of gold for items that are not worth it. I always look at how much gold it will take for me to post an item. Most of the prices are reasonable, but the more you want for an item the more they will charge to post that item. I really didn't do teh math to see just how much they charge but I did a little experiment. I just wanted to see how much it would cost to post an item at 100 million gold. God I was so shocked that I made a mess in my pants.
So I next went AH watching and checked to see how many times some of the greediest players stuck their overpriced item in. There was this one gown that I know had been sitting in teh AH for almost a month with no bites at all. Same person kept posting it (I screenied it to be sure) at the same price of 250 million gold. I went and looked at how much you ahve to spend to post an item at that price and it was well over what any sane person would pay. Now the posting prices do scale with the items quality and level but still why in their right mind would anyone want to post something that they MIGHT sell with the posting prices so high??

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Monday, January 30th 2012, 7:41pm

Price go up if your change price of item?

I wasn't aware of that. I believe that as soon as you place item in AH it tells you cost of posting it, it does not depend on price of an item. I might be wrong...

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Monday, January 30th 2012, 8:24pm

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Price go up if your change price of item?

I wasn't aware of that. I believe that as soon as you place item in AH it tells you cost of posting it, it does not depend on price of an item. I might be wrong...


Item listing cost does not depend on selling cost. It is only a factor of what the item costs to vendor. Some items are cheap to vendor (like runes) so cost little to put on AH. Some have no cost at all or maybe one gold, like monster cards or recipes, so they cost almost nothing to list. On the other hand, rare gathering mats cost a lot to vendor, so putting them on AH will incur large listing fee.

Once you sell, sure, the AH takes %6, so it is dependent on what you sell for. But listing cost does not.

As for the rest of the OP message, that is how auctions works.
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Monday, January 30th 2012, 8:32pm

Thank you for clearing that up!

@JGuy - isn't mail easier to use? Mail alt, 30 days free storage, and returns to you if you don't pick it up on alt. :D

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Monday, January 30th 2012, 8:45pm

maybe he needs more Dex to dodge AH fees, too ;)

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Monday, January 30th 2012, 9:50pm

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I just wanted to see how much it would cost to post an item at 100 million gold. God I was so shocked that I made a mess in my pants.


O RLY?

Sure it wasn't the drugs that made the listing fee change and caused the lack of bowel control?

I suggest moderation...in drugs and story telling, both.

In case you weren't aware, items do sell for well over 100m...I would imagine that some items are worth well over 500m to many endgame players. It is a function of in-game inflation. Frogster is aware of the effects of inflation on new and low end players but doesn't seem to care.
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Monday, January 30th 2012, 9:54pm

probably around 20k gold fee for 3 days depending on item and if actually sold for 100M, you get 94M out.

so SELLING a 100M item via AH costs 6.02M gold. just putting it in costs 20k ...