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Wednesday, February 1st 2012, 3:34am

New Races?

Was just wondering if anyone knows if Frogster is going to release another race because that I think is the only thing they are lacking :P

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Wednesday, February 1st 2012, 5:34am

Although that would be cool, at this point they can't even fix siege and other stuff that is still broken. (not to mention the high ping some of my friends are getting, one is particularly a tank and now has stopped tanking because his ping spikes all the time and he freezes.) :(

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Wednesday, February 1st 2012, 5:41am

Ignoring the unrelated QQing above... The new races are not likely. ROM has no racial bonuses or penalties, so only thing new races can add is new classes. 8 is enough already and balancing them is not easy task. We dont really need more.
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Wednesday, February 1st 2012, 6:33am

I understand what you are saying about the balancing and the already broken things but I can see new races becoming a new thing here. They don't have to bring anything new to the game besides looks... Can you agree with me on this?

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Wednesday, February 1st 2012, 6:55am

NO new content until they fix the crap that's been building since the release. kthx

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Wednesday, February 1st 2012, 6:58am

No need to get angry at the subject... Was just spectating this concept.

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Wednesday, February 1st 2012, 6:59am

FYI It's not qqing if its the truth and that is the truth..and how is it unrelatable I put my input that it would be cool, but things need to be fixed first. Good grief..

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Wednesday, February 1st 2012, 7:00am

I agree with Champion. No need for QQing.

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Wednesday, February 1st 2012, 7:03am

It would be nice to see new races, as the game has plenty NPC races to choose from, but that tree's been barked up since chapter 2, and I just don't see it happening any time soon.

As for new classes, I could see a dps caster class (not burst damage, but dot), and possibly a new healer, one that can successfully blend melee offense with heals, leather possibly, not much magic defense though, and can do so without giving up too much to hybrid statting.

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Wednesday, February 1st 2012, 7:15am

Quoted from "Champion101;506774"

FYI It's not qqing if its the truth and that is the truth..and how is it unrelatable I put my input that it would be cool, but things need to be fixed first. Good grief..


Subject 1 is new classes. Subject 2 is whatever problems you are having at the moment with ping or siege. Two are unrelated. That is not a hard concept to grasp, is it?
-- Rustyx --- 92R / 92S / 92M on Reni (Guild KnightShift). Yes, running the new FOTM R/M, cause I am not elf enough to be WD/S.

Oh, and people who have more than 3 classes are clinically insane.


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Wednesday, February 1st 2012, 7:47am

Quoted from "vfwiffo;506780"

Subject 1 is new classes. Subject 2 is whatever problems you are having at the moment with ping or siege. Two are unrelated. That is not a hard concept to grasp, is it?


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Also, no new races till everything else is fixed. Bare minimum EVERYTHING else.
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Wednesday, February 1st 2012, 7:54am

You sir may think you know everything, but if you actually read what I wrote to begin with, you would see that I said that it would be cool, but things need to be fixed before even having the thought of new races. Anyways, I don't have to justify my point to you. Have a good one. Btw the subject is about races not classes.

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Wednesday, February 1st 2012, 8:45am

No to new Races!

Champion101 gave good & relevant reasons why there should be no new races in the foreseeable future. Way to much needs fixing first!
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Wednesday, February 1st 2012, 8:50am

NO NEW RACES. We have our hands full with what we got not to mention the glitches bugs and lag. Ehy is there always some idiot each day starting a new thread on new races??? This nonsense needs stopped now.

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Wednesday, February 1st 2012, 3:17pm

Quoted from "Champion101;506787"

Anyways, I don't have to justify my point to you. Have a good one. Btw the subject is about races not classes.


No, but you do have to make sense. Posting opinions in public forum makes them open for discussion. And saying "working on my problem takes precedence over the development done not just by different department, but by a completely different company" does not.

As for races/classes, true, but in ROM the two are related, or at least have been so far. Racial bonuses ala D&D could work, but that is not what ROM done so far, and it would make little sense to retrofit it. The only race added so far added classes, and we dont need more classes. And, I hope nobody is suggesting a mere cosmetic addition where race has no bearing on the gameplay.
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Oh, and people who have more than 3 classes are clinically insane.


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Wednesday, February 1st 2012, 3:42pm

Great job at stopping this idiot in his tracks vfwiffo. I am so tired of people trying to turn RoM into WoW. If they liked that game so badly GO BACK. I like the way it is right now, even with the glitches, bugs and lag attempting to make me mad. Now if someone were to ask for halflings (half elf half human) I MIGHT go for that. But even then it would be jsut another problem that would cause more glitches and bugs in an already flawed system.

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Wednesday, February 1st 2012, 3:46pm

This idea of new races has been thrown around before. Here's the basics:

1) New "race" and new "class" go hand in hand. The motif that has been set thus far (and makes the most sense) is that Warrior, Rogue, Mage, and Scout are race-independent classes while Knight and Priest are human-restricted and Warden and Druid are elf-restricted. A new race would require the development of two new classes for that race to fit the pattern.

2) The existing classes already have balance issues. Not only that, but the rest of the game has severe issues in terms of broken content. Whatever time and effort they put into designing, balancing, and implementing new race/class options is time that is taken away from fixing more urgent maters.

3) New play options are very appealing to some people, but they have to be properly fit into a balanced system. A lot of people throw around the suggestion of "make new races" or "make new classes" without any conceptualization of how involved that process is. Think of all the issues with Warden and Druid when they first came out. It's not a task to be taken lightly neither by those suggesting it nor by those actually implementing it.

4) A new race has to "fit" in the world thematically. What's the back story? What new content will be brought along with it? What new starting area will be developed? Will game mechanics be changed? As it is now, races only affect what classes you have available: will this need to be changed with the advent of a new race? Will a Human, Elf, and "new race" Rogue have different stats? Will there be "racial abilities"?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion; and that includes the opinion that new classes shouldn't even be considered right now because of other issues with the game. It even includes the opinion that new classes shouldn't be considered because the sky is blue. You can debate opinions all you want, but it's a rather un-intellectual stance to claim that a contrary opinion doesn't belong simply because it challenges the OP's premise.

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Wednesday, February 1st 2012, 3:53pm

So Vfwiffo would not like to be Bodo?? (suggestion for new race)

I don't think that new race would be hard to implement, but it's really not necessary at the moment, and it's not something that will bring a lot of new player.

Better stability and support on other hand would improve game and help rebuild deteriorating server population.

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Wednesday, February 1st 2012, 3:56pm

+1 towards midnight129. You hit the nail on the head. Any new race will just mess the game up even worse. I personaly would love to see the servers fixed to alleviate lag, Siege taken out of beta and actualy released bug free, Dalanis lag free (stupid area has been a lagfest since it was opriginaly released), and a ton of other problems and bugs fixed once and for all. All any new races would do is create more problems and QQing about imballance.
As far as class balancing goes, what the heck is wrong with people. Each class had a role in the original design of the game. The way it was so called balanced ruined the true purpose of each class. Need a tank, just get some ubergeared person to own the instance, no true tank needed anymore. When they went and dropped the nerf bat oon every class making them pretty much the same (except for the armor they wear) all they did was break up what was originaly intended to bring players together. As I read a long time ago the instances were designed in such a way that you had to have one of every class to be able to finish them. Now all you need is maybe 2, a healeris always a must, a tank also a must, but what do we all hear in world chat "Looking for DPS for such and such instance." The groups are now 3 class parties: Tank< Healer< and whomever can do massive DPS. Bring back the old days of when you ahd to have one of each class in teh party, I prefered it that way.

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Wednesday, February 1st 2012, 5:20pm

Way to be rude mega...just justifying my opinion...:(