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Saturday, February 18th 2012, 8:13pm

Where pk is allowed and not..?

Hi guys, I'm downloading RoM at the moment. I have read that there is pve and pvp servers. I'm planning to go on the pve server since I dislike pking. I'm wondering if there are places or things that pking is mandatory (questing to pvp areas, pvp-allowed at certain levels..etc). I have played several other games where these are required. Thanks.

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Saturday, February 18th 2012, 8:34pm

No place on a PVE is PK manadatory. The only places on a PVE server where you will find PvP is in the arena or Siege (I do not count Duels as PvP). To add this PKing is for noobs that ahve to flex their E-Peens or scuumbags that just like to get their jollies off on killing someone much lower level than them.

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Sunday, February 19th 2012, 12:15am

Hello auqakrad12,

On the PVP-servers (only) you can fight other players in Open World. (Be careful though, if your reputation changes --- by killing people --- you can drop gear)

Naturally as a White (reputation) player you will not drop.

PVE servers are a safe bet for you to ensure you do not PVP and it cannot be forced on you.

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Sunday, February 19th 2012, 4:40am

Looks like the Tuna has answered. Thanks for showing us that yall do read these.

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Sunday, February 19th 2012, 9:36am

On a PvE server you cannot have PvP forced upon you* - but you can participate. There are duels between two players (you challenge and your opponent has a yes/no dialogue, sadly no glove slapping emote involved), you can activate PK status for more free for all PvP (but only those with the PK flag turned on can be attacked or attack) and there are the various battlegrounds and arenas.

*in Ystra this is not strictly true. In the Tower of Wailing Winds there is a Boss called Locface that is much prized for the armour skins that he drops and should a player be killed by him they get a debuff that allows them to attack other players. Yuo can't drop or get debt from these deaths, but it is not so unusual (well it wasn't in my day) to find some Scout on a roof in Harf Trading Post shooting everyone dead for a laugh(though to be fair it was normally the same one). Probably these days you'd be lucky to find anyone at all in Ystra :(

Edit: and what GarryL said :p

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Sunday, February 19th 2012, 10:00am

Quoted from "TunaShake;511161"

PVE servers are a safe bet for you to ensure you do not PVP and it cannot be forced on you.

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As a matter of fact PvP can be forced on you on a PvE server.

As many on Osha will know, there is a highly geared endgamer that takes great pleasure in finding any excuse to declare war on guilds (usually low lvl guilds) & then farming & rez killing them repeatedly while constantly crowing about lessons being learned.

Numerous complaints have been made but as far as I am aware no action has ever been taken against this player even though it is a blatant abuse of game mechanics.
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Sunday, February 19th 2012, 1:59pm

Quoted from "GarryL;511215"

As a matter of fact PvP can be forced on you on a PvE server.

As many on Osha will know, there is a highly geared endgamer that takes great pleasure in finding any excuse to declare war on guilds (usually low lvl guilds) & then farming & rez killing them repeatedly while constantly crowing about lessons being learned.

Numerous complaints have been made but as far as I am aware no action has ever been taken against this player even though it is a blatant abuse of game mechanics.

The is another way that "PvP" can be forced on you on a PvE server.

As many on Artemis will remember, last spring there was an entire guild that took great pleasure in using elite skill bug exploits (in addition to other non-bug exploits) to MPK afk players which were at the mailbox, housemaid, auction house, etc. This type of death caused full XP/TP debt and full durability loss to gear. However the guild in question did not stop there, but would cycle by the rez points and kill those players again and again and again, sometimes all night long. So not only were they using exploits, but they were harassing certain players, both bannable offenses.

Numerous complaints were made, but official statements were made that no action would be taken against these players, even though it was a blatant abuse of game mechanics.

After some of these elite skill bugs had been patched this fall, some of there players even developed a new way to MPK players, but I have only witnessed it happening once so far. Fortunately , many of these players have quit RoM, but their leader still survives.....

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Sunday, February 19th 2012, 2:25pm

Quoted from "GarryL;511215"

As a matter of fact PvP can be forced on you on a PvE server.

As many on Osha will know, there is a highly geared endgamer that takes great pleasure in finding any excuse to declare war on guilds (usually low lvl guilds) & then farming & rez killing them repeatedly while constantly crowing about lessons being learned.

Numerous complaints have been made but as far as I am aware no action has ever been taken against this player even though it is a blatant abuse of game mechanics.


Declaring War on another guild isn't exactly considered forcing PVP onto other players because if it bothers you enough you could just drop guild.

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Sunday, February 19th 2012, 4:28pm

Quoted from "TunaShake;511227"

Declaring War on another guild isn't exactly considered forcing PVP onto other players because if it bothers you enough you could just drop guild.

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Unless that other guild has the choice to say no thank you it is forced .
My guild leader asks other guild leaders if they would like to have a war ... This is not forced. Telling ppl to just quit there guild because some other guild forces war on you .. not a good thing .

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Sunday, February 19th 2012, 5:32pm

Quoted from "TunaShake;511227"

Declaring War on another guild isn't exactly considered forcing PVP onto other players because if it bothers you enough you could just drop guild.

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You don't even need to go to that extreme, you can simply sit in your house or inside an instance until the war is over.
Quite frankly I miss when guilds declared war on eachother every other day. Seemed less and less wars happend with the implementation of siegwars.
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Sunday, February 19th 2012, 7:31pm

sad things now days sad things...

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Sunday, February 19th 2012, 8:53pm

But you could easily avoid this by not sitting afk for hours. That seems a rather simple solution.

Maybe the Frog didn't feel the need to protect people that were, to all intents botting (by doing nothing) or atleast exploiting a game mechanic.

If it really was a problem near a house maid, why not get in your house? why not return to character selection, or if you must go afk do it somewhere safe?

I would have to say that there is only one side of the argument being presented here.

Though children, MPKing people is bad, m'kay?

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Monday, February 20th 2012, 3:15am

Quoted from "TunaShake;511227"

Declaring War on another guild isn't exactly considered forcing PVP onto other players because if it bothers you enough you could just drop guild.

-TunaShake


A little clarification, I was talking about >griefing<! The player I mentioned is fully endgame geared, he even had his own guild held by an alt account so he could drop his current guild & join his griefing guild to declare war on mainly low ranked guilds & farm kill all their mostly low level players who were just trying to quest. He has continued this behaviour, sometimes for several days.

Being forced to remain in your house or lay dead at the rez point or leave your guild to avoid forced griefing is no answer to this problem.

@ Shanks, yeah, I love a good guild war too, lots of fun if it is between equals :)

I know you know who & what I'm talking about & it is not at all the way guild wars should be conducted to ensure fun times for all involved.
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Monday, February 20th 2012, 10:33pm

GarryT Griefing is a bannable offence if you can prove without a doubt that this player is doing it intentionaly. If he braggs about his exploits in chat then get screenshots, if eh is camping the spawn points then get screenshots. FA would at times just ignore these infractions to get tickets closed faster. i am unsure how FU will ahndle them but I feel personaly this matter should eb looked into once again and the perp should get banned for this unsportsmanship behavior.
Griefing can and will lead to players leaving the game and that is why a lot of the PvP servers are closing down due to low population. Noone wants to be constantly on their guard against some little turd that likes to et his jollies off killing others just to hamper their progress. Common FU get with Garryt and look into this matter again because that kind of player is not welcome in RoM.