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Sunday, March 18th 2012, 6:41am

Looking at RoM as a new home I have some questions

Myself and about 30 friends are considering Runes of Magic as a new home in today's MMO world. A lot of it has to do with how MMOs are trying to pander to Single Player types of players or Lobby Player types. So what we would like to know is this.

Does RoM have a Automated LFD/LFG tool that is cross server like WoWs? Or is it Server Only or is there not one? We all come from old School MMOs and HATE anything to do with a LFD tool that is cross server.

What are the sizes of the raids here in Runes of Magic? We are looking to do the smaller raid sizes because how hard it is to get more then 10 to 15 people online on a given night.

What are the sizes of the Instances that you have?

How is Raid Progression? Do you get Raid gear from Solo Quest? If not good if you get badges or something that can give you raid equal gear to help you gear up thats np. If Raid level gear is given out to just anyone that solos we will not come here. Raids and MMOs are meant for grouping not for some people who refuses to join a guild, or be social or make friends to be handed gear.

Are the Raids hard? Do you need to spend 2 to 3 weeks on tough bosses or months? Are there different modes to the raids?


Thank you for your time. Yes I am an ass, I expect an MMO to be a Massive Mutliplayer game NOT a Massive Single Player Game just because you pay $15 a month someone hands you everything.

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Sunday, March 18th 2012, 7:02am

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Myself and about 30 friends are considering Runes of Magic as a new home in today's MMO world. A lot of it has to do with how MMOs are trying to pander to Single Player types of players or Lobby Player types. So what we would like to know is this.Does RoM have a Automated LFD/LFG tool that is cross server like WoWs? Or is it Server Only or is there not one? We all come from old School MMOs and HATE anything to do with a LFD tool that is cross server? Good! Because we do not have one that is cross-server. There is one for the server...but nobody uses it. Most people looking for a group for instances ask in the zone channel or in the world channel (or in their guild).

What are the sizes of the raids here in Runes of Magic? We are looking to do the smaller raid sizes because how hard it is to get more then 10 to 15 people online on a given night. Instances run between 6-12 people (usually 6), and raids are up to 32 people large. You'd think it is hard to get a raid going but it really isn't; there are a lot of people playing the game.

What are the sizes of the Instances that you have? What do you mean by sizes? How many bosses? How long do they take? Well they're all different really. Some can take twenty minutes others can take a few hours. Bosses range anywhere from 4-8 in an instance.

How is Raid Progression? Do you get Raid gear from Solo Quest? If not good if you get badges or something that can give you raid equal gear to help you gear up thats np. If Raid level gear is given out to just anyone that solos we will not come here. Raids and MMOs are meant for grouping not for some people who refuses to join a guild, or be social or make friends to be handed gear. You are going to the right place then. The best gear you can get is from the end-game instances; nothing comes even close. The only way you can purchase the gear from the auction house...if you have the gold required, which most people do not.

Are the Raids hard? Do you need to spend 2 to 3 weeks on tough bosses or months? Are there different modes to the raids? There are different modes to our instances, most instances have 2 difficulty ratings, some have up to 6 different modes. There is a world boss in the game that has yet to be taken down, he is extremely difficult and takes MULTIPLE raids. And there are other world bosses that require an entire raid to kill. We have world raid instances that are also extremely difficult.

Thank you for your time. Yes I am an ass, I expect an MMO to be a Massive Mutliplayer game NOT a Massive Single Player Game just because you pay $15 a month someone hands you everything. And let me put it this way....you aren't going to be getting anywhere any time fast on $15 a month. End game is expensive if you want to do well.


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Sunday, March 18th 2012, 9:29am

Sounds like you came to the right place. I left WoW because it got pandered to and simplified so many times that a toddler could face roll and win epics... RoM is one of those hardcore, dig deep and take it in the gut kinda MMOs. You can spend a ton of real life cash, and still be months away from endgame... this game isn't for the weak nor those used to having everything served up on a silver platter. Make no mistake about it... this game is an investment, in all aspects of the word.

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Sunday, March 18th 2012, 10:18am

Answers would be duplicate of what is already given, but hopefully helpful

Quoted from "hambolt;517891"

Does RoM have a Automated LFD/LFG tool that is cross server like WoWs? Or is it Server Only or is there not one? We all come from old School MMOs and HATE anything to do with a LFD tool that is cross server.


Single server only but not used, really. Most worthwhile instance runs are guild runs and only a few are run in a pickup group.

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What are the sizes of the raids here in Runes of Magic? We are looking to do the smaller raid sizes because how hard it is to get more then 10 to 15 people online on a given night.


Most are 6 man instances, there are some 12. Once you have enough level and gear, the earlier instances can become solo-able. The way that game works is that there is a currency, called ancient mementos, available in later L55+ instances. That currency drops off the bosses, and it is valuable till the end. That means a smaller or less geared group can run an easier instance and still profit from it.

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What are the sizes of the Instances that you have?
A quick run through DOD can be 5-7 minutes. Go into something tough and you can be looking at 3+ hours.

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How is Raid Progression? Do you get Raid gear from Solo Quest?

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Quest gear is fairly weak. Most good gear drops off the mobs or is crafted.

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If not good if you get badges or something that can give you raid equal gear to help you gear up thats np.


Yeah, all instances in later game give you mementos. ROM is gear game, and gear that drops off bosses is only starting point. It needs to be enhanced in 4 different ways - statting, tiering, plussing and runes. Mementos give you a way to do one of these enhancements - statting. That is the most important enhancement, and makes the biggest differences in how effective your character is.

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If Raid level gear is given out to just anyone that solos we will not come here. Raids and MMOs are meant for grouping not for some people who refuses to join a guild, or be social or make friends to be handed gear.


Top level gear is definitely not soloable or obtainable in small groups. Only thing small groups can do is farm mementos, although larger groups would be able to obtain them at significantly faster rate.

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Are the Raids hard? Do you need to spend 2 to 3 weeks on tough bosses or months? Are there different modes to the raids?


Most later instances come in at least two difficulty levels (easy and normal), many of them also come in hard mode. Obviously, hard mode gear is much better, and easy mode is much worse. One instance comes in 7 difficulty modes with progressively better drops.

Top instances are very hard to do. It can take months to just learn the strategy to each fight, and that is just the beginning - you need to have gear, skill, right class combination and a lot of coordination to run them. Can practice in easy mode, though, but that gives you only a start.

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Thank you for your time. Yes I am an ass, I expect an MMO to be a Massive Mutliplayer game NOT a Massive Single Player Game just because you pay $15 a month someone hands you everything.


There is somewhat what you are describing about. Original game has progression and reasonable level of difficulty. It has enough experience for 2 classes. In CH4, they added ability to pick 3rd class, but did not add 50% more zones and quests. Instead, they added just two (albeit large) zones that get your 3rd class to about L51-L52 with relative ease and only couple quests that require any grouping. Of course, many new players use that for their main class, so there are quite a few L50s who are effectively self-powerleveled.

That stops at 51-52, though. After that, you work for your progression and if you took the easy way to it, that makes your way past it harder. Lots of drop-offs once the game stops that "easy mode" progression.
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Sunday, March 18th 2012, 10:46am

^ What they said.

From what you describe, it sounds like RoM will be absolutely ideal for you. Some of the things that people routinely complain about (like the difficulty of completing content easily and without a strong group) sounds like stuff you will see as a net plus.

The issue you may run into, if you are used to an MMO like *that one that Mr T likes so much* is that this is not at all like a subscription game. If you wish to achieve endgame content, you will want to invest pretty heavily in real life cash, or truly vast quantities of time. RoM is a gear-modification game, and the cash shop is mandatory for gear modding. Cash shop items can be obtained in game from players for in-game gold (this is a common way newbies make gold, through selling items to players) but- it is quite difficult to farm sufficient gold to maintain free to play status.

RoM is actually pretty cerebral. It's subtle. It requires a depth of understanding that some other games lack. This is why people love it so much, despite it's relative high cost and many flaws.

No one can just throw down cash, gear and level in a week, and expect to be a great player. This has been attempted often, but it takes time to master your class and your role in an instance. Instance strategies (mostly) are fairly involved and difficult to do.

If you are willing to make the investment in time and learning, you will enjoy this game a lot.

@tmblake09,

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There is a world boss in the game that has yet to be taken down, he is extremely difficult and takes MULTIPLE raids. And there are other world bosses that require an entire raid to kill. We have world raid instances that are also extremely difficult.


Which worldboss is this? I thought they had all been cleared now. Androlier, Amboriar, Sesphiroth- who am I forgetting about that needs multiple raids?
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Sunday, March 18th 2012, 10:53am

i dont know any worldboss that has not been done with 4 or less people.

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Sunday, March 18th 2012, 11:59am

i'm thinking he was suggesting that boss in TB that's summoned with the blood at the alter in that cat-person camp... the one that hits for like 150k a shot... can't remember his name though; accidentally summoned him and was squished before he even fully materialized.

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Sunday, March 18th 2012, 12:21pm

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i'm thinking he was suggesting that boss in TB that's summoned with the blood at the alter in that cat-person camp... the one that hits for like 150k a shot... can't remember his name though; accidentally summoned him and was squished before he even fully materialized.


There's also another summonable boss in TB too at the beach near the light-house that thing has a ridiculous amount of P-def from when I tried it, could be that the one at the cat camp has a ton of m-def, I dunno, but yeah would probably need a raid for either of those, but both of them drop hero stats x 2 from what I heard.

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Sunday, March 18th 2012, 12:37pm

Targonharl can be done with 3, Lagusen with 4. Drops on both: 2x Glorious.

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Sunday, March 18th 2012, 1:15pm

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Targonharl can be done with 3, Lagusen with 4. Drops on both: 2x Glorious.


yes, we know EU/GE servers out power the US servers, we recently have had rune x sales, and some others, but very recently, which yall have been gettin quite often, quite frequently...and at a much lower cost...lol

back on topic,

vfwiffo, great reply...(golf clap)

yes it seems rom would be perfect for you and your freinds. hf ;p
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Sunday, March 18th 2012, 1:51pm

dont forget about the pvp aspect!
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Sunday, March 18th 2012, 5:00pm

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Targonharl can be done with 3, Lagusen with 4. Drops on both: 2x Glorious.


Myself and a r/s in my guild duo lagusen :D also duo'd it with a w/r. *rasberries*
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Sunday, March 18th 2012, 6:15pm

RoM is much better than "Mr T's" game. Better graphics (although a bit problematic for low power computers), decent background music, and like one of the above posters has said Reni is the US server to go to.
Yes there are problems with the game (mainly due to bad coding), but it seems that Frogster is only now taking the community seriously and letting Runewaker know our gripes.
If you ahve any problems all you need to do is to post a topic here or search for our problem first (most have been discussed already).
As far as a guild goes I would suggest making your own seeing as you are bring 30 players or more here. Siege has been getting better (Siege is a Guild vs Guild pvp in an private instance).
Do EVERY QUEST there is to be had. My way of doing them is to get my main class up to Varnas then when I accept my second class I will do the quests for the other races starting area. There are only 2 races in RoM: Elves and Humans, which is perfect. No racial abilities, and only a few classes locked out of each one. Choose your race and class wisely and you can own.:cool:

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Sunday, March 18th 2012, 7:09pm

Instead of joining a guild (if you ARE coming) I suggest making your own 'cause of the size of your group. I do like Reni and there are some good servers. Ask around on the forums about what you are looking for in a server. If you need help and you come to the Reni server I and many others can help you. As you are a good sized group some people will try to take ya, but here are some tips to stay together.

1. In raids you can have 36 people in one party which could suit your needs if you're all questing and doing stuff together (that would be scary seeing a mob of newbs when I go leveling my secondary :P)

2. Once you hit Level 20 on your primary and level 20 on your secondary a new zone will open up for you called Coast of Opportunity and there will be a transport skill on your skills interface called "Heffner Camp Transport Spell". From what I can tell you and your group do not just want to go the easy route. My advice is to not go here as it was made for high level 3rd class power- leveling as the exp from there is a lot. Do the quests near your spawn point and work form there.

3. Since you have a large group you guys will eventually start running instances. Because you have a such a large group (I'm very envious of this :) ) you can run the lower level instances at the level they are supposed to. If you do come to Reni I have been thinking about making another (:P) alt and I would like to run and do stuff with you guys. My guild isn't super op yet but we can still run the instances you will need later so you could ask when you need help.

4. Do not buy diamonds (cash shop currency) until you get to level 55 up unless you are buying mounts.

5. Have fun :D

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Sunday, March 18th 2012, 7:17pm

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Instead of joining a guild (if you ARE coming) I suggest making your own 'cause of the size of your group. I do like Reni and there are some good servers. Ask around on the forums about what you are looking for in a server. If you need help and you come to the Reni server I and many others can help you. As you are a good sized group some people will try to take ya, but here are some tips to stay together.

1. In raids you can have 36 people in one party which could suit your needs if you're all questing and doing stuff together (that would be scary seeing a mob of newbs when I go leveling my secondary :P)

2. Once you hit Level 20 on your primary and level 20 on your secondary a new zone will open up for you called Coast of Opportunity and there will be a transport skill on your skills interface called "Heffner Camp Transport Spell". From what I can tell you and your group do not just want to go the easy route. My advice is to not go here as it was made for high level 3rd class power- leveling as the exp from there is a lot. Do the quests near your spawn point and work form there.

3. Since you have a large group you guys will eventually start running instances. Because you have a such a large group (I'm very envious of this :) ) you can run the lower level instances at the level they are supposed to. If you do come to Reni I have been thinking about making another (:P) alt and I would like to run and do stuff with you guys. My guild isn't super op yet but we can still run the instances you will need later so you could ask when you need help.

4. Do not buy diamonds (cash shop currency) until you get to level 55 up unless you are buying mounts.

5. Have fun :D



I totaly agree with number 4. Only buy diamonds for a perma mount then don't buy anymore until you hit level 55 or so. Up until level 55 gear is a nonissue. Most if not all quest gear will do well until after level 55 at which time you will want the gear from instances or even the mem gear. Something I will add though is this: DO NOT STAT ANY GEAR UNTIL YOU ARE AT LEAST LEVEL 65+. I say this due to teh fact that the cap atm is level 70 and statting any gear below level 65-67 will be a waste of time and money. Now if you find something that you like in the AH for a decent price then go ahead and get it. Plussing and statting though should wait until ou are ready to hit Tergothen Bay (the toughest area in the game by far).

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Sunday, March 18th 2012, 8:56pm

Ok some questions that my people have because they are considering RoM.

How expensive can raiding be? People dont mind spending about $180 a year because thats what we spend on subscriptions people do not want to spend $300+ a year just to raid. We are not poor however people are use to paying X amount per year and would prefer not to spend much more then that. Like myself I am saving money right now to buy a bigger house, any extra money I can save helps, I do not want to spend that money for a Pay to Win game. Like I said right around what I am spending right now is not a problem.

If we are not paying a subscription fee do we still get all the instances?

The normal leveling instances will be 6 man minimum right?

The normal Raid instance group sizes are they 6/12 from what I found?

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Sunday, March 18th 2012, 9:25pm

You will have access to everything without spending a penny - the only difference is that if you don't buy diamonds with cash, you'll need to farm gold to buy them off other players. This is easier done at the cutting edge, but of course you have to get there first.

You don't have to spend lots cash - probably the real key will be to identify where you can save money. With a group of dedicated players there are lots of things that you can do to cut costs, and you don't need to have the most pimped out gear to start end-game farming.

https://forum.runesofmagic.com/showthread.php?t=450730

Here is a brief guide of now many to an instance. Generally 6 man, 12 men for the hard ones with super good loot. Varanas Nightmare used to take, er, I can't remember how many full 36 man raids, but it crashed the server every time someone attempted it :p

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Sunday, March 18th 2012, 9:51pm

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Ok some questions that my people have because they are considering RoM.

How expensive can raiding be? People dont mind spending about $180 a year because thats what we spend on subscriptions people do not want to spend $300+ a year just to raid. We are not poor however people are use to paying X amount per year and would prefer not to spend much more then that. Like myself I am saving money right now to buy a bigger house, any extra money I can save helps, I do not want to spend that money for a Pay to Win game. Like I said right around what I am spending right now is not a problem. Well that is an issue then. It will take you considerably longer than everyone else to get end-game. If that is fine with you, then there will be no problems. However, $15 a month will definitely not cut it. Won't even come close.

If we are not paying a subscription fee do we still get all the instances? This game is ENTIRELY free to play meaning you get access to every single thing in the game whether you pay or not.

The normal leveling instances will be 6 man minimum right? No, the normal leveling instances are 6-man maximum, 1-man minimum. However, with what you said and not wanting to spend a decent amount on the game, you will need full parties because they are impossible to do in groups of 3 or less with no gear.

The normal Raid instance group sizes are they 6/12 from what I found? Yes, those are the normal sizes.


Like I said, it can be done without paying anything...you'll just be left behind for quite a while. At least you'll have a group of people playing with you to make it a good experience though! You'll always have someone to quest with which is good. There are tons of people who can join in parties while playing the game, however most who started with your viewpoint change to everyone else's: not paying will get you nowhere.
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Sunday, March 18th 2012, 10:31pm

I agree to most things said here, save for the not buying until 55, as there are other things available that are for purchase other than just a mount. For example, xp/tp furniture for your house... never too early to start building that bonus. Wings, the sales are few and far between, so get em when you can. Pet transformation potions (if you're planning on a specific pet), again, sales timing limited. +XP/TP consumables, transport stones, costumes... in fact, the only place you actually wanna stay away from till 55+ would be the "upgrade" section of the item shop... everything else is fair game.

However, none of this is actually REQUIRED... save for maybe the wings (as +6 extra stats will help out significantly), but it does help speed along your progress.

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Sunday, March 18th 2012, 11:02pm

Now I see items while I am in game that say will not drop when PKed. So gear drops off me if I am killed by another player?