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Friday, June 22nd 2012, 6:46am

Can this Handle RoM alright?

i just got this computer form a neighbor since he hadnt touched it in a long time. so im hoping this one will run much better RoM the n my other im not looking to play best quality available just to play without alot of lag and able to enjoy the game properly. these are the DxDiag
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System Information
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Time of this report: 6/21/2012, 21:43:38
Machine name: HOME-PC
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Basic (6.0, Build 6000) (6000.vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Compaq-Presario
System Model: GC668AA-ABA SR5110NX
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+, ~2.4GHz
Memory: 1982MB RAM
Page File: 734MB used, 3452MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 6.00.6000.16386 32bit Unicode
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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)
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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 6150SE
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03D0&SUBSYS_2A5C103C&REV_A2
Display Memory: 554 MB
Dedicated Memory: 58 MB
Shared Memory: 495 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
Driver Name: nvd3dum.dll
Driver Version: 7.15.0011.0065 (English)
DDI Version: 9Ex
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 2/10/2007 17:18:00, 4644864 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4090-11CF-CD73-570A02C2CA35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x03D0
SubSys ID: 0x2A5C103C
Revision ID: 0x00A2
Revision ID: 0x00A2
Video Accel:

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Friday, June 22nd 2012, 7:48am

CPU - OK.
Memory - should be good for one client, but adding more RAM wont hurt
Video - built-in low performance. Should be upgraded if at all possible.
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Friday, June 22nd 2012, 7:53am

I can see a couple problems with your "new" system. First it has just under 2 gigs of system ram. That should be upgraded if you can. Get at least 4 gigs or more again if you can. Second the video ram. It has some onboard but most of it is shared with system ram. That will require you to run at minimum settings, and your frame rates may take a massive hit. Update the video driver and any other drivers that need it.
Other than the above it should run RoM, not gonna say how well but if you drop teh settings to minimum it should work.

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Friday, June 22nd 2012, 9:34am

I would have to be a party pooper here but the minimum requirements for Ch3 (we are now at Ch5 that shouldn't ask for more power but...) are a P4 2GHz equivalent, and a GeForce FX5700/Radeon 9600 equivalent.

Your CPU barely scrapes past that (though I might be wrong as I am not an expert on Athlons) and your GPU falls well short.

You might get the game to run, but I doubt it. Most likely you will get a critical error on start up, and if it does run you'll get a few FPS when anything intensive is going on.

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Friday, June 22nd 2012, 5:05pm

Kat I run RoM on a laptop that doesn't meet the minimum CPU requirements just fine. here is the one I do it on:

http://usa.asus.com/Notebooks/Versatile_Performance/K53U/

Granted I did upgrade the main system memory to 8 gigs. But with the eye candy turned down I can play with 50+ fps in some areas.

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Friday, June 22nd 2012, 5:13pm

Really? From what I had seen even the A6 series AMD APUs just weren't capable (Edit:as in were incompatable) of running RoM. Interesting - you are the first one I have seen using that tech to play this game.

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Friday, June 22nd 2012, 5:23pm

I have ROM client loaded on a netbook. Dell Mini-10, to be precise. 1.6 Atom, 1gb memory, Intel 500. Not a single component that is NOT way below what is needed (well, maybe networking is good). Does the game run? Well, "run" is a wrong word for it. But it loads, and it makes a good platform to talk to guildies and do some AFK processes, like mat refining and XP debt removal.
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Friday, June 22nd 2012, 5:41pm

Really? I coudln't get my netbook to even run the browser version. Maybe I'll try installing again - chatting with guildies while mostly afk is I spend most of my RoM time doing anyway ^^

This thread is just full of surprises for me today ^^

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Friday, June 22nd 2012, 9:07pm

For the OP:

Your CPU is fine, and is above our minimum and recommended hardware requirements.

System RAM is a bit on the short side, especially for Windows Vista. Your machine uses 533 MHz PC2-4200 DDR2 SDRAM and can address up to 4GB in two SDRAM module slots. If you wish to upgrade this, I'd recommend shopping online for a 4GB kit (2 x 2GB SDRAM modules). I'd also recommend that you run Windows update and allow it to install Service Packs 1-3 and all the other security updates that Microsoft has issued for Vista.

Video: Very weak and the dedicated video RAM is half of our listed minimum amount required. You may be able to run our game and display the graphics, but only on the lowest in-game settings and your gameplay will be affected, with low framerates.

Your computer does have a PCIe x16 video expansion slot available. If you wish to upgrade your video when upgrading the system RAM, shop online for a mid-line card that doesn't require an auxiliary power connection. Either an ATI Radeon 3600 series card or nVidia GeForce GT 200 series card would do nicely, and neither are terribly expensive.

Hope this helps
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Friday, June 22nd 2012, 11:53pm

Quoted from "Kalvan;540231"

For the OP:

Your CPU is fine, and is above our minimum and recommended hardware requirements.

System RAM is a bit on the short side, especially for Windows Vista. Your machine uses 533 MHz PC2-4200 DDR2 SDRAM and can address up to 4GB in two SDRAM module slots. If you wish to upgrade this, I'd recommend shopping online for a 4GB kit (2 x 2GB SDRAM modules). I'd also recommend that you run Windows update and allow it to install Service Packs 1-3 and all the other security updates that Microsoft has issued for Vista.

Video: Very weak and the dedicated video RAM is half of our listed minimum amount required. You may be able to run our game and display the graphics, but only on the lowest in-game settings and your gameplay will be affected, with low framerates.

Your computer does have a PCIe x16 video expansion slot available. If you wish to upgrade your video when upgrading the system RAM, shop online for a mid-line card that doesn't require an auxiliary power connection. Either an ATI Radeon 3600 series card or nVidia GeForce GT 200 series card would do nicely, and neither are terribly expensive.

Hope this helps


As usual Kalvan is the man with the plan. I can totaly agree with him on this. After the updates and possible new card, you should ahve no problem running RoM even if the eye candy ahs to be turned down.

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Saturday, June 23rd 2012, 9:28am

i was looking through BestBuy.com and found these cards and wanted to know if any of them would work with my computer and if they would be good cards to get
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/MSI+-+ATI+Ra…03600&cp=1&lp=2

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+NVIDI…20200&cp=1&lp=2

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/MSI+-+N520GT…20200&cp=1&lp=3

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Saturday, June 23rd 2012, 11:01am

I'm not real familiar with ATI cards but the Nvidea cards you want will be x60 or higher numbered. So a 260GT,460GT 560GT and so on. I personally bought a 460GT and used it for a month and brought it back. I went back to a 9800GTX+ more than $200 cheaper and played this game way better. I get 80 fps in Dalanas...a known lagfest.
So to answer your question the 2 nvidea cards you listed will NOT do what you want. they are bottom of the line cards. The higher the second number the better.
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Saturday, June 23rd 2012, 12:25pm

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i was looking through BestBuy.com and found these cards and wanted to know if any of them would work with my computer and if they would be good cards to get


They are pretty much entry level old cards. They should go for $10-$15 and would work acceptably even if not at super high resolutions/frame rates. If you want a card in that performance range, the prices are fairly high for what you get. Instead, I'd go with:

5450 Card = $35 - $15 rebate = $20

210 card = $30 - $15 rebate = $15

6450 card = $40 - $20 rebate = $20

That was just a quick check - there might be better deals on those. Out of the three, I would go with 6450. Alternatively if your budget is what you linked, you can move to better cards in $40 price range.
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Saturday, June 23rd 2012, 2:45pm

To avoid conflicts between your video cards and for teh easiest instal I would recommend going with Nvidea (and I am an ATI fan). But the cards you linked like wiffo said are bottom of the line and will not do what you wnat. Here is the lowest one that I personaly would go with in the nvidea line:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/PNY+-+GeForc…8&skuId=2264415

If you can afford it go with the above one. It will give you what you want while not killing your bank.

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Saturday, June 23rd 2012, 6:07pm

Just a couple of cautionary notes.

First, the OP's computer is an older (probably 4-5 years) model, for which I have been unable to find certain specs. In this case, it's the power supply unit (PSU). I'm going to guess here, and peg its output at a nominal 300W. Because of this, the OP should avoid any video card that 1.) requires an auxiliary internal power connection (cannot be powered solely by the PCIe x16 expansion slot) and 2.) has a manufacturer's minimum wattage requirement greater than 400W.

The nVidia GT210 card he listed should be avoided, not because it's necessarily a "bad" card. But it's far less capable than either of the other two cards he was looking at. (For nVidia cards, the second digit in the model number shows the video capability of the card. Higher numbers are better. ATI cards are similar in that respect, the higher the number, the "better" the card is in rendering graphics.)

Unfortunately, the card that Mega listed is likely to be too power-hungry for the OP's PSU to handle, and probably requires an aux power connection.

And yes, it's possible to upgrade the existing PSU with a newer and higher-output model, but that's an extra expense that may not be necessary. After all, we're not talking about using this machine for playing the "latest and greatest" first-person shooter game. Improving it to better handle RoM's graphics is the goal.
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Saturday, June 23rd 2012, 6:47pm

I'd like to add that the OPs system is pretty similar to the system I had when I first started playing RoM, it was very playable for questing etc, but had to use hide spell effects in instances with a lot of effects (allowed at the time)

Video card upgrade to anything with dedicated memory would make it a lot better.

I know a lot of people argue the point, but I generally try to keep the chipset maker and the video cards matched. (ATI with ATI, Nvidia with Nvidia, intel doesn't matter) From building hundreds of computers it just seems that there are fewer driver issues when they match.

Also, as a side note, RoM runs surprisingly well, and is very playable in a vmplayer virtual machine running XP, set up with 128 meg video card

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Saturday, June 23rd 2012, 7:39pm

Gah Kalvan is right I forgot to check the specs on that card I linked. Sorry bout that. Now this may be a better match though:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Galaxy+-+GeF…2&skuId=2344217
Although it does require a 300w power supply it may work.
Here are a couple more to concider but you will ahve to order them online and ahve them shipped to your house or local Best Buy:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Galaxy+-+GeF…8&skuId=5620358
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Gigabyte+Tec…7&skuId=3338848
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+NVIDI…7&skuId=3086088


Out of the above 3 I would choose the Asus one more because I know their products and have never ahd a problem with them.

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Saturday, June 23rd 2012, 11:29pm

i was looking at the card you listed Mega and i like the galaxy one im thinking about ordering it. but as far as RAM goes do i have enough to play the game with that card with as minimal lag as possible?

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Sunday, June 24th 2012, 12:00am

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i was looking at the card you listed Mega and i like the galaxy one im thinking about ordering it. but as far as RAM goes do i have enough to play the game with that card with as minimal lag as possible?


System memory is very much needed. You should upgrade to 4 gigs of system ram if your motherboard can handle it (most computers can even from 3 to 4 years ago). There are 2 ways to ensure you get the correct system ram. You can take your computer to a shop that does upgrades and let tehm do it, or if you feel comfortable remove what you ahve and then take it to a computer store and have them match it there.
As far as on card video ram goes 1 gig is more than enough to run rom. Yes more will help out but it comes at a cost of needing more power to run. The cards that I have linked all have enough ram on them to run RoM with the settings turned down a bit. As far as lag goes that can be attributed to a lot more things than just ram issues. Your internet connection can have a great effect on how RoM runs also.
But with the ystem memory upgrade and the video card upgrade you whould be fine.

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Sunday, June 24th 2012, 1:36am

the system ram i have now i took out of my other computer i used before this one they were both ddr2 and there working so im assuming there the right kind. and i tihnk my internet is alright-pretty good i average about 54.0 MBps. hoping to have the new card soon and maybe more RAM but may do the card first since it seems to be the biggest thing i need.
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