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Friday, June 29th 2012, 4:47am

Crashing issue

So I noticed a week ago that I have been increasingly crashing when I snoop to a different zone. Is its a known issue and is there something that I can do to decrease my snooping crash rate?
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Friday, June 29th 2012, 7:23am

I used to crash randomly, of course, almost always in Dalanis. I have my setting on low and I still crash. Ever since Ch5 came out, I've been crashing more often in the most unlikely places that I never crashed before like in and out of GC's and my house. If you never used to crash you could try putting your setting on low with you distance maxed if you don't have it that way already. I know it has helped a few people.

Otherwise, welcome to my world ;) I'm getting a new gaming computer with 8 gigs of ram and a great video card, so we'll see how well that works on those bugger crashes lol.
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Friday, June 29th 2012, 8:46am

Quoted from "spdyclkr;542133"

I used to crash randomly, of course, almost always in Dalanis. I have my setting on low and I still crash. Ever since Ch5 came out, I've been crashing more often in the most unlikely places that I never crashed before like in and out of GC's and my house. If you never used to crash you could try putting your setting on low with you distance maxed if you don't have it that way already. I know it has helped a few people.

Otherwise, welcome to my world ;) I'm getting a new gaming computer with 8 gigs of ram and a great video card, so we'll see how well that works on those bugger crashes lol.

It will most likely make you crash more.

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The players have done the research: the better and faster your computer is, the more you crash. We have decided it is because older and slower computers load everything more slowly so the game has time to process all of the coding and allow you to remain in-game without crashing.
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Friday, June 29th 2012, 10:01am

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The players have done the research: the better and faster your computer is, the more you crash. We have decided it is because older and slower computers load everything more slowly so the game has time to process all of the coding and allow you to remain in-game without crashing.


Quite wrong!

If a newer faster computers hardware is at or above spec, the game has no corrupt files & drivers are up to date (exception being the odd new driver that has known issues) the single reason for RoM to crash more often is the fact that better computers are usually running with higher graphic settings & therefore much larger texture files which in turn can allow RoM's well known memory leak to bite. Fast computers can also run at low graphic settings to take advantage of the smaller texture files.

My fast computer running at max settings crashes no more often than any other computer running this game.

Blame the known coding problems not the hardware!!

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If you never used to crash you could try putting your setting on low with you distance maxed if you don't have it that way already.


A much better idea would be to put your graphic settings on low with View Distance reduced.

It could also help if you download & install the new chapter 5 client as your old client may have corrupted files.
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Friday, June 29th 2012, 2:49pm

And that's funny. I have RoM on 2 computers. 1 athlon64x6 (don't remember the clock) with 4G DDR3 ram and a nice video card. 2 is a pentium D 3Ghz with 2G DDR2 ram and onboard video. both computers uses slim client and all settings maxed and the funny part is the faster computer often shows that memory message specially on Dalanis and the slower never showed it. As for crash...

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Friday, June 29th 2012, 3:41pm

I have to agree with the crashing on ROM is getting old, but i have fixed some of my issues by doing everything on this post http://forum.us.runesofmagic.com/showthread.php?t=71301 at least it has helped me and i only crash when i take the teleport about 15-20 times before the game crashes. I still get the error, but I do not crash that much. I also have a fast computer.

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Friday, June 29th 2012, 4:21pm

I must disagree with you Garryl. tmblake09 is completely correct on this issue. RoM does not like to loadfast. I am not gonna go out and say it likes a snails pace but the tests have been done. Lower level hardware means that RoM actually ahs a chance to load everything before the coruption bug hits. I have 3 computers and the one that NEVER crashes is this one:
http://usa.asus.com/Notebooks/Versatile_Performance/K53U/

My main gaming machine which is over 4 years old also never crashes anymore since CH5 went live. My main gaming laptop (which I managed to get repaired) has very few crashes itself since ch5 went live. This is a shortened version of its dx:

System Information
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Time of this report: 6/29/2012, 09:17:08
Machine name: MEGAMOUSE-PC
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.vistasp2_gdr.120402-0336)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Gateway
System Model: P-7805u
BIOS: Ver 1.00PARTTBL
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8400 @ 2.26GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.3GHz
Memory: 4090MB RAM
Page File: 2219MB used, 6135MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 7.00.6002.18107 32bit Unicode
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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)
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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GTS
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 9800M GTS
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_062C&SUBSYS_0696107B&REV_A1
Display Memory: 2795 MB
Dedicated Memory: 1005 MB
Shared Memory: 1789 MB
Current Mode: 1440 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver Version: 8.17.0012.9610 (English)
DDI Version: 10
BGRA Supported: Yes
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 2/29/2012 19:02:00, 17642816 bytes

Like I said none of my computers crash since CH5 went live. SO yes it is the newer hardware that is not playing nice with RoM. RoM uses an old engine that the newest and greatest hardware has pretty much outclassed. The only way for RoM to play nice with the new hardware is to lower the settings until the crashing stops or get RuneWaker to update the game engine. Which do you think is most likely to happen.

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Friday, June 29th 2012, 4:49pm

My understanding is that the crash always happens when RoM takes up 1.3+ gigs of RAM. European forums have commented on how they've watched Task Managers and noted the warning always fires off at around that usage of RAM and crashes before it hits 1.7 gig. That is probably either a symptom of earlier posters have said, or the cause in that RoM doesn't know how to use large amounts/ faster RAM.

There have been discussions about running RoM in a Virtual Machine setting where you could then set the limit of RAM available, but we couldn't get the VM to use the graphics cards for some reason. I'm also wondering about running aggressive RAM cleaning software while playing RoM to see if that helps. But I'm no IT professional.

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Friday, June 29th 2012, 5:07pm

I have an older computer with a 8800 GTS card with a core 2 process AMD. This computer crashes the same amount as my fastest computer listed in that link. It is also running windows 7 and has 4 gigs of memory.

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Friday, June 29th 2012, 8:35pm

Use of ram cleaning software only will decrease performance, specially if you're in a siege where more data than usual need to be processed. Since mach when I first played RoM, I crash at least once a day since I begun to do quests on Ystra Highlands and from there I went to CoO. For that time on, once a day, very ramdomly I get crashed. But I have a friend that have a crash at least once per hour.