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Wednesday, August 15th 2012, 5:48pm

Not Enough Quests: When?

So I've happily made it to level 34/33/33 with no lack of quests. I know that eventually there won't be enough quests to conveniently level all 3 sides of me - perhaps not even 2 sides - and I'll want to let my primary side get around 10 levels ahead, using dailies from the primary side to level the secondary sides(s). What I don't know is when I'll arrive in this state.

I'm now in Harf/Ystra Highlands, and quests feel like they are coming a little slowly. (Having heaps of daily items for dailies I can't yet use is definitely frustrating, but I'm also finding many of the available quests are beyond my ability until I level some more.) I haven't touched the equivalent level in Coast of Opportunity, so that's presumably enough to keep another side of me going. But am I already into the beginning of the too-few-quests stage, or am I just missing something [like another area suitable to my level], or going through a slow spell. (It doesn't help that my scout side is puny compared to my warden side.) I've skipped large parts of Dragonfang Ridge, so perhaps there are quests there that aren't too many levels below me to be useful, once I get beyond that part of the area I was in before getting bored with the too-low-level quests I was doing.

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Wednesday, August 15th 2012, 6:17pm

Without any extra grinding or orbs etc(and not including dailies, or at least not a whole lot), i've found that you can get to 72(questionable)/51/37. These are all estimations from my own personal experience and does not include skipping any quests or zones.

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Wednesday, August 15th 2012, 7:50pm

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Without any extra grinding or orbs etc(and not including dailies, or at least not a whole lot), i've found that you can get to 72(questionable)/51/37. These are all estimations from my own personal experience and does not include skipping any quests or zones.


Pretty much this.

It's perfectly possible to get 72 on a single character without dailies or orbs. As long as you do all the quests and occasionally kill the monsters in your path (when not on a quest).

Getting 51+ on your secondary is fairly easy with dailies as well. Or grinding in the Puppet Room with a small amount of gear.

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Wednesday, August 15th 2012, 8:40pm

One note for you, don't get in the happy of turning in in quests on secondary. Later on it will cause an interruption in progression. You will be stuck in zones waiting to level to move onto the next.

Last major piece of advice, at lvl 54 while in AV you will get the option to go to Dalanis. Please don't do this, you will hate life. There are more then enough quests to get to lvl 55-56 try to get to 56, then go to Dalanis. Your sanity will thank you. Otherwise SJF and every zone after that is going to be hell.

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Wednesday, August 15th 2012, 9:06pm

Quoted from "regentego;564765"


Last major piece of advice, at lvl 54 while in AV you will get the option to go to Dalanis. Please don't do this, you will hate life. There are more then enough quests to get to lvl 55-56 try to get to 56, then go to Dalanis. Your sanity will thank you. Otherwise SJF and every zone after that is going to be hell.


Definitely this.

I did it this way on my old main, but while leveling my druid, I made this mistake in my haste to level. Ended up stuck for a month in Limo at 60 >.>. Seriously, listen to this guy if you don't want to be stuck doing dailies for several weeks.

I'd also add that you shouldn't be doing any quests on your secondary from Aotulia Volcano onward until your main class is way past whatever zone you're in. If you have boss quests, non-chain quests that you never completed, etc, left over after your main class moves onto the next zone (and you don't run into a quest wall on that class in the next zone), then you can turn those in on secondary. There is a serious shortage of quests from Thunderhoof to Limo, and that's just for one class, so be careful about how many you use for second or third classes.

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Wednesday, August 15th 2012, 9:32pm

Quoted from "regentego;564765"

Last major piece of advice, at lvl 54 while in AV you will get the option to go to Dalanis. Please don't do this, you will hate life. There are more then enough quests to get to lvl 55-56 try to get to 56, then go to Dalanis.

Actually, I'd strongly recommend going to Mysterious Torrog & accepting the quest line that takes you to Thunderhoof Hills just a few hundren k exp short of level 55.
As soon as you arrive there, you should then make a beeline for Kabo Kennedy and pick up his armor pack.

Next step, would be to head to Dalanis itself and have Arina Kaiyinth transport you back to Obsidian Stronghold. (Note the place you arrive cos that's how you get back to Dalanis later - talking to Hajikar Mashes.)

What you do next is entirely up to you:
  • Return to Weeping Coast, Savage Lands and Aotulia Volcano and finish quests there; or
  • Continue questing in Thunderhoof Hills, returning to WC, SL and AV as needed.


Whichever you choose, you will end up short of XP a couple of times, despite what previous posts suggest.
You only need to add up quest XP rewards for each zone and factor in an amount for mob kills to realise that Thunderhoof Hills (55-57), Southern Janost Forest (57-58), Northern Janost Forest (58-60), Limo Desert (60-62) and Land of Malevolence (62-65) will not quite get you to their intended levels. Sometimes you can follow the quest lines into the next zone, unlocking higher XP dailies (or do Butterflies in Xaviera) but you are likely to hit a stumblin block once or twice where you'll have to spend a few days doing dailies only til you level up.

Doing 10 dailies per day is strongly recommended, especially if they are the highest XP rewards available to you as they will likely hide the XP shortfall of these zones allowing to progress smoothly.

As for your current levels, the design of the game allows you to proceed from Howling Mountains/Elven Island/Yrvandis Hollows to Silverspring, Aslan Valley, Ystra Highlands and Dust Devil Canyon on one class.
Sascilia Steppes and Dragonfang Ridge is designed for your second class leaving Coast of Opportunity & Xaviera to quickly level your third class.
Following these paths allows you to reach approximate levels of 50/30/50 in the respective classes. You are then stuck with having enough quests to level only one of your classes to endgame. Dailies make it possible to raise the other classes and I haven't included Ravenfell, a 45-50 zone which you can use however you like.
Of course, you can turn quests in on whatever class you like as it is completely up to you how you play, but realise that when you run short of quests, you will have to spend some time doing dailies only.
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Thursday, August 16th 2012, 2:16am

From my most recent experience (meaning this summer, when I made a new character), you can actually get far if you maintain a kind of "schedule" with your quests and dailies. Since my new character was not my first, I started leveling my first two classes in Coast of Opportunity from level 1. I believe I could split the quests equally until around level 30-ish. At that point, I had to go back to old zones to keep my two classes even. By that time I had my third class, which I leveled using Sascillia Steppes and Dragonfang up to level 35-ish (I think?).

At this point, dailies become far more important (as if they weren't already). You really need to make sure you find the dailies that give the most exp for your level and remember to do them every day. No skipping. By continuing to move my 2 classes up through Coast of Opportunity/Xaveria and the old zones, I got to 50/50 just fine. Third class I got to 50 by using Dust Devil Canyon, dailies, and some of Ravenfell. When it hit 50, I stopped it there (pushing higher than level 50 with your third class is pushing your luck). So then I had 50/50/50... Xaveria was finished by then, so I moved my 2 main classes into Weeping Coast/Savage Lands/Aotulia Volcano. Again, make sure you're doing dog meat or butterfly dailies every day to keep them as even as possible. If you pace yourself you really don't have any problems.

Got into Thunderhoof around 57/57 I believe. Split quests evenly up through Southern Janost Forest and Northern Janost Forest, which got me to about 60/60. Note that here, you will have to be patient and use more dailies if you want to keep them even. I was unfortunate enough to have to level this character without any 2x exp events, so some days (like one or two) I didn't quest and just did dailies instead. I stopped my secondary class at 60 because at this point onwards, you can't split quests. As it is now, there's just barely enough exp to get one class through the zones properly.

So from Limo through Tergothen, all those quests go to your main class. That will get you to 70 normally. If you quest on a 2x exp event, you will be level 72 before you finish Tergothen. Otherwise, you'll hit 72 in the new zone. So that's 72/60/50 just by planning, pacing, and normal dailies (meaning no resets and no 2x exp). Would I do it that way again? Probably not...too much thinking and planning...although to be honest it's the most effective leveling I've ever done in this game. xD No regrets!! :D

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Thursday, August 16th 2012, 4:58am

Thank you, everyone. I haven't been getting much XP from dailies so far - I do dailies religiously, for the Phirius tokens, but rarely have enough time or items to turn in 10 _good_ daily quests. (When it gets late, I do "helping them grow" till I can't do any more dailies.) This changed somewhat once I got into Ystra, where every quest I do seems to result in accumulating lots of daily quest items as a side effect. But even then, I don't play all that much per day, and do participate in Siege Wars when I can, so gathering 10 quests worth of items is as unlikely as doing 10 non-daily quests ;-)

So looks like if I'm being conservative, it's time to stop leveling one of my 3 classes, and stop another one at about level 50 - or restrict them to only being leveled using dailies. Glad to see my instincts confirmed ;-)

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Thursday, August 16th 2012, 6:03am

If you are short on time and just want to get the tokens, I would do the daily in Heffner camp where you give the three potions to the sick guys. I think the quest guy is named Hugope? All 10 can be done in about six minutes or so.

But even better, if you don't have any daily supplies on hand and short on time, try buying the supplies for your best daily for your level on the AH and just turn in the dailies in a matter of seconds. Sometimes this can be pricey but its worth it if you don't want to miss out on the exp.

I have just scratched the surface of the Ystra Highlands quests now, have done a few in Obsidian Stronghold/Dustdevil Canyon as well, and still have a few quests to do in Aslan and Dragonfang still. Right now I'm 50/50/47... Coast of Opportunity is crazy for exp, it ramps up huge fast as you move through, so don't worry about lack of exp for a while. I still haven't done all the quests in Xaveria yet. Dailies in Xaviera are the best by far, check the daily exp chart on rom wiki to see just how good they are. You can sandbag daily supplies there as you have been doing in Ystra, and you will then realize that doing your dailies in Xaveria every day will be the norm from now on.

Take advantage of the bonus exp this weekend to get your Coast/Xaveria questlines turned in for bigtime exp, plenty to get all three of your classes up fairly quick, or at least two of them, if you have the time you can get to 50/50 no problem.
Just my comments, though I am still very new at this game myself.

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Thursday, August 16th 2012, 6:55pm

Update: I've been training primary-only since shortly before I started this thread, in Ystra Highlands, and doing a full set of dailies most days. Quests are coming in just fast enough to keep me going. Of course I could go to Coast of Opportunity - but my plan is to go back there, on a secondary class, on a bonus xp weekend - best bang for my buck on the bonus weekend, and it won't hurt as much if a secondary class is low on TP for its level, provided I put them into shared skills.

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Thursday, August 16th 2012, 6:57pm

Quoted from "Dangerdude;564884"

But even better, if you don't have any daily supplies on hand and short on time, try buying the supplies for your best daily for your level on the AH and just turn in the dailies in a matter of seconds. Sometimes this can be pricey but its worth it if you don't want to miss out on the exp.


I've just been assuming there's no way I'd be able to afford this, at least not as a regular thing, unless I take to selling diamonds. Are they actually likely to be available cheaper than I'm imagining?

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Thursday, August 16th 2012, 7:08pm

The best dailies will be expensive to buy the items on the AH, so I really wouldn't recommend it unless you are a frequent diamond seller that has a lot of gold to blow.

As for CoO/Xaviera -- leveling your secondary through there is a great idea. It's very quick, so it only takes half as long as leveling your primary to 50 through the main zones. After you get your secondary through there, you could take a few days to do dailies on your third class. Assuming you stop leveling it for now, you could easily go from 33-50 in a matter of days (or in one day, if you have some Daily Quest Tickets) through dailies in CoO/Xaviera. The trick is to do dailies exactly 10 levels above your secondary (which requires that your main must be able to take dailies 10 levels above the secondary -- i.e. two levels below said daily or higher); once it levels, you go to the next highest daily, so on and so forth. It makes leveling a third class very easy from 30 to 50. If you do this during double exp, it's even faster.

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