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Thursday, August 23rd 2012, 12:10am

Questions About Mage Priest and Scout

Hey guys, I just have a few questions about the Mage Priest and Scout classes.

I was wondering what would be the best combo out of the ones listed below:

M/P

P/M

P/S

S/P


Those are the classes I cant decide between. If anyone could help me choose one, heres what im looking for:

1. I want to be able to Solo

2. I also want to be able to Group Quest

3. I like to play PVP

4. I want a fun class that wont get boring.

Please reccomend what you think would be the best class combination for me.

Thanks for your help everyone!

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Thursday, August 23rd 2012, 12:31am

M/P is the way to go. M/P can solo many things, its viable for group quest, it good in pvp due to holy aura. as for "fun" it depends on the person playing it.
Also when you say solo, do you mean like solo questing? or solo boss, elites? anyways, my answer is still M/P.
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Thursday, August 23rd 2012, 12:41am

Definately mage/priest. I can easily accomplish things that the other class combos you listed cannot.

M/P - Excellent DPS(valued in groups), good survivability (Pvp and solo wise), I haven't gotten bored with it yet lol.
P/M - Poor Dps(A healer in most groups), good survuvability (pvp wise), lack of dps prevents most solo play.
S/P - not too familiar with this combo*
P/S - Okay dps, but not great(your group members would probably prefer you on S/P), good survivability, you'll be hated in pvp becasue most people cringe at the sound of an ice blade.

I'm personally a M/P. With that combo, I can solo burn many bosses before they kill me. If the fight takes a while, I have the ability to heal myself. I spent 55min solo'ing 1st boss in Sardo Castle easy mode, and the only reason I was able to do that was becasue I was healing myself. In siege war, you'll have many options available to you: Nukes, roots, dots, insa casts, aoe's. If played correctly, you will be a force to be reckoned with.

That's just my take on this.

http://forum.us.runesofmagic.com/showthread.php?t=75931
The above link shows me, a m/p, in pvp. Check the channal out to see what else a m/p can do
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Thursday, August 23rd 2012, 12:55am

@Rukifellth2792

as a M/P myself I constantly wish I had more instant casts in pvp. How do you make up for the lack of instant casts. What skills do u use for pvp? Also, how does the GCHM set skill Magic Tricks work? is it just like the lucky chance skill?
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Thursday, August 23rd 2012, 1:01am

Quoted from "SuperiorFlash;565864"

@Rukifellth2792

as a M/P myself I constantly wish I had more instant casts in pvp. How do you make up for the lack of instant casts. What skills do u use for pvp? Also, how does the GCHM set skill Magic Tricks work? is it just like the lucky chance skill?


It is like lucky chance but does not suck. It is much stronger, i believe about same power as fireball.

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Thursday, August 23rd 2012, 1:53am

Quoted from "SuperiorFlash;565864"

@Rukifellth2792

as a M/P myself I constantly wish I had more instant casts in pvp. How do you make up for the lack of instant casts. What skills do u use for pvp? Also, how does the GCHM set skill Magic Tricks work? is it just like the lucky chance skill?


I make up for the lack of insta casts by using either: Thunderstorm, Electric Bolt, or Holy Aura+Flame. I've never gotten Magic Tricks, but kingzamorak explained that it is like lucky chance, except alot stronger.
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Thursday, August 23rd 2012, 9:35am

I'm m/p/s. It's an insanely versatile combo. M/P is arguably the best solo class in game. It's insanely good at solo questing and even soloing bosses. It's just... well, it's almost OP.

M/P is also a really great dps in instances. The only drawback is the need to manage aggro, and there are lots of ways to do that. Check out my mage guide for details.

M/S is handy for stuff too. I use it in instances when we have a tank who has a hard time holding my aggro (you can use an extra Recon in your bow). It's great on trash (spamming shot) and if you run into bosses that demand magic and melee skills (like the minibosses before Sirloth in DL) you can use Shot for melee and magic for everything else.

For PvP, p/s is, well, some people would call it stupidly OP. I just call it fun. ;) It's also a good off-healer, or even a main healer if you choose to gear for healing.

All three of those classes use the exact same gear.

Win, win, win baby.

About the only thing an m/p/s can't do is tank at-level content.
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Thursday, August 23rd 2012, 1:22pm

I haven't played (yet) much with my M/P combo, did not get even elites yet (only a week priest), but from look of it, it is nice combo. As priest L55, I was clearing trash that is 8 level higher in LoM without much of a trouble, where as R of the same level I would require healthy does of pots to stay alive.

Reason I like M/R is instant casts of Cursed Fangs (with DoT), Kiss of a Vampire (gets 10% HP back, and makes 2 next magic attack deal more damage). I did not have much of a trouble questing, even my weapon is L60.

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Thursday, August 23rd 2012, 3:30pm

I have played all four combos.

M/P is ridiculously OP dps.
1 It is great solo, because you will be able to kill stuff without dying, other than one shots.
2 In parties it is liked due to the high AOEs and ST dps
3 In pvp, it does ok. The AOEs are useful in clearing clusters of defenses. Thunderstorm spamming is helpful if there is a rogue nearby. And holy aura helps a little with surviving.
4 The gear/stat/build is very simple and straitforward. It is rather squishy at high lvl content and pvp compariatively to other combos. It is fun to play as you can destroy stuff.

P/M is a great party healer.
1 Solo is rough as its dps is low(being a healer) and a bit involved as the need to bone chill, then lightning rod, then other dps skills to get the max dps, which is still low. There is also the lack of AOEs.
2 In parties, it is great. The mp restore is quite helpful to knights and wardens. It is a healer, and everyone likes a healer.
3 In pvp it does ok with freeze, holy aura, and healing other players/defenses.
4 If you like healing, this class is great.

P/S is a great party healer/minor dps.
1 Solo, the minor dps helps alot in combo with being a healer. It will be rough until you get all the elites though.
2 In parties, the 2nd group heal is great as well as the caster attack buff for the party.
3 The P/S can be a caster build for pvp and "ice bladers" will usually kill stuff by getting off 3-5 shots before and oppenent knows it, all due to lag inherent to the game. Outside of pvp, ice bladers are pretty useless.
4 As a healer build, the P/S it nice with extra heals and extra dps.

S/P is a dps/support class, and really one of the funest combos
1 Once reaching lvl 35 elite, the solo play is really easy. It has scouty dps, and the buffs are automatic.
2 In a party, the S/P gives some really good buffs and heals automatically. Also, the burst phase speed buff is the fastest in the game, but does not stack with certain other speed buffs. Vampiric transformation(as of chapter 4) helps it, and others, to survive, AND its area of effect MOVES WITH THE S/P.
3 In pvp the S/P is not really used, so it is untested. I have used it in siege and the vamp arrows allow me to survie to kill other players, but since I seem to be the only one to ever have used S/P, it remains largely untested.
4 The dps is misunderstood, as it gives party dps automatically in addition to individual dps. Since scruit and many dps addons cant really show this, the dps contributed appears less than it actually is. I recommend building this combo just as you would any dps scout, do not try and cross build as a caster/physical.(*edit*) The Aggro Lead skill is perhaps the funnest skills in the game. Contact me and I will send you the macro, or look it up in the forums.(*edit*)
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Thursday, August 23rd 2012, 11:01pm

M/P is a very good pvp and pve mage, it does fairly awesome dps due to Outburst, but in my opinion M/S is better, if only just for the extra recon. A dead mage is no use to anybody. And M/W blows both out of the water.

P/S is great in pvp, if statted right. It can be alright in pve as well, with Rising Tide spam, but you're never going to get to the numbers a mage can throw out, because A. You don't have a 3 second cast time, and B. You don't get Catalyst. P/S is a great pve healer, with the extra group HoT and the matk buff mages will love you. P/S is second best PvE healer, coming second only to a Priest/Knight.

P/M is.. meh. In pvp it can be good with Freeze, icewind blade, lightning, silence, fireball, it's actually pretty great for pvp. In pve.. it really isn't a great healer. The mana regen is next to nothing, as a normal mana pot can accomplish the same thing, definitely not worth giving up P/K defense or 6 extra stats + extra GH on a P/S. So P/M falls short as they don't really bring anything special to healing other than the mp regen.. which is pretty useless.

S/P I know nothing about.

In conclusion:

Solo: M/P hands down
Instance Damage: M/S
PvP: M/P, P/S, P/M in that order.
Healing: P/S
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Friday, August 24th 2012, 12:19am

man back in the day the OP m/p's that were into pvp all went p/m in arena and siege when it came out. they were a MENACE if they swapped their mattack gear on the swap side and primarily used healer gear.

freeze
swap
some weirdo p/m dot
res
QQ

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Friday, August 24th 2012, 12:32am

P/M is actually kinda handy to have for duoing crazy things, where an extra lightning and silence make a difference. R/S and P/M is a pretty beast duo. I've done silly things on my p/m with an r/s friend, like (attempt, and not recently) to duo GCH.

Compared to the utility of p/k or p/s though... yeah, p/m is a niche thing, not a powerhouse.

I have a geared p/k alt and my main is p/s though barely geared, and I have to say, while EA and Life Link make P/K almost stupidly OP, I prefer healing groups on the P/S. Having that extra group heal is realllly nice. P/S comes as close as any priest class to playing more like a druid. On my p/k I almost exclusively urgent heal, whereas on p/s I cycle through urgent, curing shot and GH. It feels more dynamic to me.

As far as m/p vs m/s goes... it's completely situational. M/P is clearly (in my experience) better dps on bosses (though m/s is no slouch either). It can approach (or exceed) m/w if the fight is prolonged. M/S is more versatile on trash, and takes fewer dirt naps from inadvertently tanking bosses. Neither m/p nor m/s is particularly great at PvP, though m/p is clearly the superior combo, and all mage classes have Tstorm, which by itself is uber handy against traps, hidden rogues, etc. Neither class can outshine m/d or m/wd in PvP though.

It's almost like, well, if you are m/w/p, you should go m/p in sw. If you are m/p/s, you should go p/s. If you are m/s/d, you should go m/d, and if you have /wd at all, always go m/wd in sw.

For PvP utility's sake, I would rank them this way:

m/wd
m/d
p/s
m/k
m/p
m/s
m/w (eww, go w/m before you come in on m/w)
(and we kinda don't know where m/ch and m/wl should go yet, since they are new and shiny)

Bottom line: P/S is a highly desirable party healer and a killer pvp combo. P/M is a niche healer and also good at PvP. M/P is possibly the best all around class in RoM (jack of all trades and master of most), and not too terrible at PvP in the hands of a skilled player. M/S is versatile and handy, though lacking in PvP utility (hey I can hit people when Silenced! Oh, dodge, dodge, dodge *sigh*).

You really can't go wrong. There is no reason to gear your scout at all, because there's nothing a s/p or s/m can do that a m/p or p/s or m/s can't do better.
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Friday, August 24th 2012, 12:40am

Quoted from "pazuzzu;566081"

man back in the day the OP m/p's that were into pvp all went p/m in arena and siege when it came out. they were a MENACE if they swapped their mattack gear on the swap side and primarily used healer gear.

freeze
swap
some weirdo p/m dot
res
QQ

Lol @ Paz- that's my backup plan if they nerf p/s. That weirdo dot is Lightning Rod, and if the skill doesn't kill you, the silly sound effect will. Abs, my p/k buddy, used to come in sw on his p/m and use that exact rotation on people. He only had p/k gear, but he still drove people absolutely berserk with Freeze. See a big old beastly p/k? Yeah, freeze won't resist on them when you both have metric craptons of wisdom. They can cleanse it off themselves, but almost no one thinks to try it, cause they're all like... WTF IS THIS??? That WTF moment is usually long enough to kill whoever they were pocket healing and then they're toast.

Plus, they can still heal just fine, they only lack the OP Life Link. *QQ*
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Friday, August 24th 2012, 1:56am

pft i show you shine in pvp...roll back the clock and gimme 2 liters of wild turkey, no gcd on channeled skills and a bullwhip. i used to rape face on m/k tossing nothing but instants and jumping like a moran...600 kills+ can i get an amen! (k, maybe, MAYBE i sieged on paz in the 10-100 pt bracket only...but still. its hard and stuff to get ppl to bunch up and let me TS them over and over for 60mins straight.Oo)

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Friday, August 24th 2012, 1:57am

Quoted from "mnkmurphy885;566087"


Plus, they can still heal just fine, they only lack the OP Life Link. *QQ*


Life Link is EVERYTHING. Everything! Only reason I play P/K really... >.>

Well.. I guess 62.5% pdef is nice too :P
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Friday, August 24th 2012, 2:00am

M/P is your best overall class. Great solo ability and instance runner.

P/S is the best pvp character with iceblade... you can also... wait nope... Iceblade is pretty much all you can do :)

Others are not really ideal combos
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