These guidelines are a bit tricky, if you're talking about the ballpark numbers to be able to pug in a group, then they'll be a bit higher than if you're able to survive and run in a guild group. I'll go with pug numbers. I honestly can't remember some of the older ones but I'll do ToSH physical dps and AC physical dps:
ToSH Hard Physical DPS UNBUFFED numbers:
-45k PDEF, more if you're doing torches, maybe 55k pdef unbuffed, just helps with some of the skills during dark phase, with more hp and pdef you can get hit by more piercing shots. If party uses holy shield and bubble and phoenix and candy for each, doesn't even matter.
-70-75k pattk
-65k Hp+
AC Normal Physical DPS UNBUFFED numbers:
-PDEF doesn't matter because trash is single pullable, dots are % based. If you do attack a chest before anyone aggros, you'll have to be around 50k pdef unbuffed and 70k hp unbuffed to survive 1 hit when buffed.
-60-65k pattk
-60k Hp+
These are numbers that will allow you to contribute as physical dps imo. Because these are min numbers, they'll hopefully be running with hero potion, castle buffs, housemaid buffs, level 50 pet, pattk food, and bring their own instruments (KEY FOR PUGGING! People will pug you more if you come prepared and bring music!). Hope this helps
