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Tuesday, November 27th 2012, 12:27pm

I was just referring to the changes suggested. Nothing more,nothing less. Im with you, I dont wanna lose my 2 handers either.

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Tuesday, November 27th 2012, 1:50pm

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ANd this comment... more pdef for pvp... hate to bring up a sore subject and a repeat name, but have you tried to kill raves? lol if youd like to learn how to play druid for pvp just Pm him :P


Have you seen me in pvp? My comment is more in regards to how priests are capable of having more defense than druids due to their buffs, I become close to unkillable but it feels like I need more damage reduction because everyone got 20% more pdmg.

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Wednesday, November 28th 2012, 12:38pm

My warden heals quicker with pots not priests. A shield is a very bad idea for wardens. Personally I think they're too powerful. If people don't like the fact Chiron is one shotted, then don't use it. Nothing wrong with the def values on Spirit of Oak. To be honest if ever there was a class where I wonder about its future, it's the warden. Shield - big no no from me. Have to think what next.

1st people want wardens to wear shield
THEN 1h weapon mastery
then what?
Shield mastery like the knight?
Throw shield like the w/k because wardens have limited range?

There's always upgrades dependent on the class. I think most of them continue to be well balanced otherwise everybody would be the same class.

I notice the people who want the upgrades are usually for the class they have, and not a class they are not. What's your class out of interest?

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Wednesday, November 28th 2012, 1:01pm

Quoted from "Kefkai;578566"

Have you seen me in pvp? My comment is more in regards to how priests are capable of having more defense than druids due to their buffs, I become close to unkillable but it feels like I need more damage reduction because everyone got 20% more pdmg.


TBH, no i havent, i dont think ive ever faced bloodlegion at all, but i highly doubt your druid is breaking 300k hp like raves, i could be wrong, but your have to stat NOT like a druid to reach those numbers :P
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Wednesday, November 28th 2012, 1:52pm

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TBH, no i havent, i dont think ive ever faced bloodlegion at all, but i highly doubt your druid is breaking 300k hp like raves, i could be wrong, but your have to stat NOT like a druid to reach those numbers :P


Depends on how you stat, right now if I wanted to I could get around 270k+ probably a little bit more with buffs. I don't usually go full buffs though since that's more expensive that and I stat more pdef than raw HP/Stam, also have a few mdef stats on my equipment.

Nice assumptions though, as is it's really easy for me to hit 250k though I normally just go around 220k to most sieges. Mainly since if they can knock me down through that then I'm probably not in the situation where that extra HP was going to save me.

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Wednesday, November 28th 2012, 8:57pm

Quoted from "Kefkai;578782"

Depends on how you stat, right now if I wanted to I could get around 270k+ probably a little bit more with buffs. I don't usually go full buffs though since that's more expensive that and I stat more pdef than raw HP/Stam, also have a few mdef stats on my equipment.

Nice assumptions though, as is it's really easy for me to hit 250k though I normally just go around 220k to most sieges. Mainly since if they can knock me down through that then I'm probably not in the situation where that extra HP was going to save me.

Dont need much to get that high tbh. I still get ~180k pdef and ~250k mdef going into siege with hp buffs going on. No briar. Thats with 300k ish hp. Also am cheap/noobish and mostly 2-3 rune slot drilled xD

Think the max pdef I've gotten was 340k, no sigil, self buffed. Only 190k hp though. Enough to tank kulech boss 1 while self healing and -aggro dps.

In siege however, I find that stam>pdef>hp. Current setup is either

stam/hp
stam/wis
wis/hp x2
stam/def x2

or

stam/hp
stam/wis
wis/hp
wis/def
stam/def x2

siege shield is statted:
stam/def x4
hp/def x2

Going more with the latter since the new gear gives a ton of inherent hp. Think I get like 19k wis and 20k stam. Only egg rice is expensive, no excuse for not using hero/uni/grass or pdef.

For heals, I'm admittedly still squishy. Although I never get 1 hit, even by end game rogues, Ill still go down if 1) they pop cooldowns, 2) im reckless, 3) I lag. I *have* sat there however and outhealed a group of dps from top ranked siege guilds and lived through it, but thats not my playstyle. Id rather be able to take, and kite heal, give them must face target issues (no rogue expects their target to move behind THEM after a sneak attack). I think bleedingblak can confirm, a good rogue can take out most healers, even myself. Think he low blow crits me 120k? Not sure if he had any buffs going.

Most hard hitting dps are squishy, and i trust in my guildies to take them out before they do the same to me. Very rarely am I let down.

Maybe Ill put up some siege vids of my own sometime. I just prefer all laptop's resources going to the client. idk.

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Thursday, November 29th 2012, 12:09am

I just want to point out that kef is a awesome pvp druid he constently gets highest heal numbers and is pretty far up there in kill count (although tbh I dont know if thats from him or if hes getting those kills cuz hes following ebi and elma around all seige healing them).
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Thursday, November 29th 2012, 3:23am

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I just want to point out that kef is a awesome pvp druid she constently gets highest heal numbers and is pretty far up there in kill count (although tbh I dont know if thats from her or if shes getting those kills cuz shes following ebi and elma around all seige healing them).


I am a he, dunno how you don't know that o.o

As far as kill counts that's because of both of us, most of the time I keep Elma alive and he keeps people from killing me if they can kill me.

My kill counts individual on Kef used to be around the top too though when I played on him, in a way I like druid more though.

Also @ Raves yeah I like Stam/Def stats most of all, if I could I'd probably go almost all Sta/Def, unlike a lot of druids I stat like a P/K with enough to hit cap on heals but not push it too much, I'm sure I could get my Wis up higher if I used Warlock buff, but I never do. And tbh I'm really guessing on the amount of HP I get, I really don't know at this point if I buffed up. I'm considering higher tiering my shield, worth the investment from only 6 atm?

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Thursday, November 29th 2012, 6:09am

t8 it. OD is relatively easy to get because of the incompetency of the developer to reduce the range of when the boss will reset, and how pathetic the publisher is in trying to get them to do it.

You'll prolly be keeping that shield for awhile, might as well stat and tier it right.

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Thursday, November 29th 2012, 8:04am

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t8 it. OD is relatively easy to get because of the incompetency of the developer to reduce the range of when the boss will reset, and how pathetic the publisher is in trying to get them to do it.

You'll prolly be keeping that shield for awhile, might as well stat and tier it right.


What just because every rogue and their grandma has dimlights? It's ridiculous to see 8m Dimlights on AH, might be better or worse on Reni, I don't know but the availability of that stuff is another issue lol.

And yeah, I got my shield right when it came out, was like woo who cares if it's UD and stat'd it then proceeded to see everyone glitching the instance and millions flooding the economy. Seems like the easiest way to get more pdef though, since shields give a relatively decent amount of Def (and that this one gives stam). I feel myself caring less and less about healing bonus since it's so easy to hit 100k+ MEFs as D/Wd, nice for HoTs though I guess.

As far as keeping it for a while, depends on if they even have another healing shield for a while, the next one will probably be 10 levels away given the pattern (if the game is alive in 10 levels).

Also wanted to add guess I didn't notice last time, rolling into siege with 180k pdef seems really low, I'd rather take the pdef route to try and negate more rogue damage than the HP route, I dunno. I still haven't gotten my VN cape though, sometimes I feel like it'd really save my ass in some situations.

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Thursday, November 29th 2012, 10:24am

Quoted from "Kefkai;578927"


Also wanted to add guess I didn't notice last time, rolling into siege with 180k pdef seems really low, I'd rather take the pdef route to try and negate more rogue damage than the HP route, I dunno. I still haven't gotten my VN cape though, sometimes I feel like it'd really save my ass in some situations.

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I switch up my buffs depending on the guild. For battalion, like in my screenshot, i'll go more HP heavy, since they have lots of magic dps. For PPK, I'll sacrifice some hp for more defense, around the 220-230k range. Think tonight without uni or gol i had around 238k hp, 230kish pdef. Theres just some dps out there that no matter what kind of druid you are, you're going to be taken down if singled out :\

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Thursday, November 29th 2012, 10:55am

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<No briar ;)

I switch up my buffs depending on the guild. For battalion, like in my screenshot, i'll go more HP heavy, since they have lots of magic dps. For PPK, I'll sacrifice some hp for more defense, around the 220-230k range. Think tonight without uni or gol i had around 238k hp, 230kish pdef. Theres just some dps out there that no matter what kind of druid you are, you're going to be taken down if singled out :\


Yeah but I hit 200k+ pdef without egg rice or pdef food or pdef housekeeper buff (I haven't looked lately to give an accurate number on my pdef) but I could probably hit some crazy numbers if I tried but I mainly can't spend the money on rice, otherwise I would. I usually don't use Uni if it's not a serious battle and just have GoL instead.

And yeah that goes the same for all healers I think if you're focused by more than one DPS anyhow, though I think part of it is this chapter, the availability of daggers and how bad the new gear is besides a few items (the shield, and the world boss set). I don't think I'm going to replace my ToSH set, the bonuses just aren't good enough from War Mongers, if the pdef numbers were 20% higher than ToSH set I'd be all for it but there's not even an ISS from it. A lot of the time I don't feel like I need the mdef as much past ~200k+ though with the recent influx of W/M I don't know, if they get to you without any DPS watching you, you can go down ridiculously fast.

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Thursday, November 29th 2012, 10:01pm

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Yeah but I hit 200k+ pdef without egg rice or pdef food or pdef housekeeper buff (I haven't looked lately to give an accurate number on my pdef) but I could probably hit some crazy numbers if I tried but I mainly can't spend the money on rice, otherwise I would. I usually don't use Uni if it's not a serious battle and just have GoL instead.

And yeah that goes the same for all healers I think if you're focused by more than one DPS anyhow, though I think part of it is this chapter, the availability of daggers and how bad the new gear is besides a few items (the shield, and the world boss set). I don't think I'm going to replace my ToSH set, the bonuses just aren't good enough from War Mongers, if the pdef numbers were 20% higher than ToSH set I'd be all for it but there's not even an ISS from it. A lot of the time I don't feel like I need the mdef as much past ~200k+ though with the recent influx of W/M I don't know, if they get to you without any DPS watching you, you can go down ridiculously fast.


Ive seen some healers go all out on pdef. Talking 450-500k range, they do alright until a good rogue who knows how to disable a healer comes along. Idk. I feel like hp cant be neglected. 2 /hp's minimum. Wisdom is actually pretty important nowadays. P/s are getting more and more abundant, mages are starting to speed cap flame me...its more about the resistance than the mdef.

I try balancing out all fronts, while not being too high on one or the other, still hard to kill if you keep both pdef and wisdom high. HP helps being the middle stat that benefits both sides of defense.

Only reason really that Im upgrading to warmonger/pol mix is the hope for more def/hp. The abundance of these dims is ridiculous.

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Saturday, December 1st 2012, 5:32pm

I see what you are saying and I do agree. I guess I was just kinda tired of my Warden not being able to tank stuff. I was always an off-tank...With the 2h weapons yes they do give more dmg, but less def. I am going to build him for P.def, P. dmg, and DPS.
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Saturday, December 1st 2012, 6:36pm

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Ive seen some healers go all out on pdef. Talking 450-500k range, they do alright until a good rogue who knows how to disable a healer comes along. Idk. I feel like hp cant be neglected. 2 /hp's minimum. Wisdom is actually pretty important nowadays. P/s are getting more and more abundant, mages are starting to speed cap flame me...its more about the resistance than the mdef.

Doesn't it make you feel good when a mage has to pop all their buffs to kill you? Always gives me a chuckle XD

I try balancing out all fronts, while not being too high on one or the other, still hard to kill if you keep both pdef and wisdom high. HP helps being the middle stat that benefits both sides of defense.

I try to lose wisdom.. I tried so hard! I'm only statting one per piece now and somehow i'm still gaining it... this new gear has so much on it XD


Only reason really that Im upgrading to warmonger/pol mix is the hope for more def/hp. The abundance of these dims is ridiculous.

It is ridiculous. Saw one for 2M on the AH yesterday. Like.. really? I want to be able to get a weapon that's insanely good for 2M :'(


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Saturday, December 1st 2012, 11:03pm

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I see what you are saying and I do agree. I guess I was just kinda tired of my Warden not being able to tank stuff. I was always an off-tank...With the 2h weapons yes they do give more dmg, but less def. I am going to build him for P.def, P. dmg, and DPS.


WHY... WHY... >< cant you tank anything.. seriously... nothing happened with ANY changes that stopped you from tanking anything. Ive tanked kbnh plenty of times as wd/s, not even warden/warrior, sooooooooooo........
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