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Thursday, December 13th 2012, 10:20pm

Question about Dirty Stating

Hiya! I'm new to the game (still downloading) and have been reading about the game to have a good idea of what to do so I'm not completely lost. The main thing I am wondering and cannot find an answer on is about Dirty Stating. Do you have to dirty stat? Is it mandatory? What level(s) should you worry about dirty stating? Any clarification would be appreciated! Thanks! :)

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Thursday, December 13th 2012, 10:41pm

Hi, welcome to RoM.

Statting refers to upgrading gear by fusing it with mana stones. Dirty statting in particular means using items in the process that result in less desirable stats showing up in some of the limited number of stat slots. Dirty statting is typically much cheaper than clean statting.

For a new player I would not recommend any statting at all for a while. Instead concentrate on learning your class skills, questing, leveling up, and so forth. Along the way you will acquire gear at a fairly rapid rate and simply replace gear - instead of upgrading older items.

Eventually you will come to the point where upgrading existing gear makes sense. Probably that'll be low 50s level for a brand new player. And you'll want to dirty stat first - save clean statting for near end game. I've seen people twink a 2nd or 3rd character with statted gear - this makes them very powerful for their level, but requires resources that you probably won't have the first time through (unless you're putting real money into it). And I think you'll have fun playing through those early levels once without needing that.

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Thursday, December 13th 2012, 10:50pm

Ah okay. So I wont have to start til lvl 50 with dirty stating. Sounds good to me. Also, what is the max character level in the game at the moment?

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Thursday, December 13th 2012, 11:03pm

Go to the forum section called Guides. There are plenty of threads in there with medicore to excellent guides for stating, and just about anything else to do with the game. In fact, the latest thread is one called statting for spuds.
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Thursday, December 13th 2012, 11:21pm

Quoted from "KyrosDrake;580849"

Ah okay. So I wont have to start til lvl 50 with dirty stating. Sounds good to me. Also, what is the max character level in the game at the moment?


I would say level 50 would be a fairly good place to start dirty stating. Until then you're going to be upgrading your weapons & armor every few levels, so the dirty stated items that you would be making will quickly become obsolete. Dirty stating also costs a fair amount of gold (mainly to buy the items you'll be pulling the stats off of), and gold is probably going to be in fairly short supply for you up until you get to around level 50 anyway (unless you buy some diamonds and sell a few of them for gold in the Auction House, just to get yourself some starter money); there aren't a whole lot of items that a new player can farm ingame that sell well.

RoM is a pretty in-depth game, with a lot of content, quests, activities, and features. One thing I would recommend is that you read every thread in the Game Guides section of the forum at a minimum, and as many in the "Questions and Answers" and "Discussions about Runes of Magic" as you can; you'll find answers to questions you haven't even thought of asking yet. :) Also, you'll want to get comfortable with these 2 sites at a minimum:

http://www.theromwiki.com/Runes_of_Magic_Wiki
http://www.runesdatabase.com/

And of course if you have any questions, just ask! The forums have a lot of friendly and knowledgable people on 'em. (I'm not that knowledgable yet, still pretty new myself, but I'm getting there.) :)

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Friday, December 14th 2012, 12:10am

if you want makeshift dirty statted items, i know a couple players that have a myriad of low level alts, and always change classes, new toons, etc...and are willing to trade similarly statted or equivalent pieces for higher or lower lvls...so once you get a few pieces, you can trade for higher lvl gear. i know for a fact that me and my friend, who both have alot of toons and "experimental" combo alts switch gear almost all the time, so we don't need to bother remaking gear when we make a new toon. so i i have a r/p, and he has an upcoming r/k, i'll usually let him borrow my r/p's gear, and then when he gets bored with r/k, i may have made a s/wdn that needs gear.

Also, many guilds have a couple "guild pieces" of dirty statted gear, donated by charitable members, that they can loan out to lower lvl members, and when the members outgrow it, they give it back to the guild and some other newbie can use it...you don't make any money this way, or permanently gear your toon, but if you are just looking to advance in levels, this is a great system.

another possibility is to sell self-made dirty statted gear on AH and make a new piece with the cash(this is possible due to the fact that it only takes a couple 100k to make a piece but they sell for 500k-1m).
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Friday, December 14th 2012, 12:11am

50 is too late to stat if you play through normal zones. Mid-30ish is a good place.

ROM has 2 really badly balanced zones, called Coast of Opportunity and Xaviera. They give excessively high experience gain and excessively good gear from quests. If you go with that gear, you probably can get away with not statting till 55. Level 55 is very important level, where the quality of gear takes huge leap upward. So, if using the CoO/Xaviera gear, you can probably reach 55 without any statting at all. You should still practice and understand, but you can get away without it.

It is easier with statted gear, of course, even before 55. Just don't spend a lot on it - it is quickly outgrown.
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Friday, December 14th 2012, 5:26pm

I used to say, dirty stat at 30, clean at 55. But that was long ago and far away. Now I dirty stat my 55 gear while holding out clean stats for GCH or ToSH gear and memento accessories. KBNH gear is still too hard to come by.

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Friday, December 14th 2012, 5:49pm

RE: lvl 55+ gear

I have noticed that Quest gear from the 2 main quest lines have been pretty good, some ppl may not have to really stat much if all they want to do is play the quest lines.

Having said that, dirty statting is a good idea unless you are using nearly the best EQ for your class that you can get your hands on.

Obviously, if you have the BEST current helmet, then I would put the time & $$$ into statting it right.

If you have a helmet that's within... the last 10-15 levels, I would still stat it right, but not really focus on making the best choices. Instead, focus on the right stat "family". ie, if you are a melee type that gets 2x pa from str, try to stat str/x stats. This will get you on your way to getting better gear that you can be more discriminating.

If you have a piece that you know you'll keep for a while, for whatever reason, but don't have any deep attachment then I would look @ dirty statting. Sometimes just having 3 t5 stats on t3 gear will make the gear "good enough" to get by for a while, since you'll get an extra 20% bonus to pdef/mdef & whatever ghost stats there are.

The last thing is.. if you have a piece that you just picked up & don't think it's worth statting.. don't.

^-- all of this is relative :)

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Friday, December 14th 2012, 6:17pm

I leveled 4 alts to L75, and my main purpose for them has been as utility, which means gatherers, mini-games runners, buffers, farmers of "one per day" events. So I tried to do it as cheap as possible. None of the alts have gear made especially for them, not have I generally bought well statted/tiered gear (except weapon - great weapon makes lots of difference even to undergeared toon).

Depending on class, they either had easy time or hard time. My P/M could not survive past LOM, so he is now P/S and does OK. Wd/S had pretty easy time getting to the cap, and that is because of Chiron. R/S would not have made it to cap if it was not for me being R/S and having tons of hand-me-downs. Great class combo but needs gear. WL/R struggled without gear.

What I have done recently is the semi-dirty statting. You know how the quest gear is pretty decent now and comes in sets, at 50, 55, 60, 65, 70 and 72 levels? Well, they have 2 stats. I buy or farm X stats, puri them and 3 of them go on the quest gear. That is not dirty, because it uses puries. It is also not clean - but you get 3 good yellow stats, 2 good green stats, nice ghost stats and set bonus. Not enough to run instances, but more than enough to quest to the cap with relative ease.

Since X are so cheap, it is arguably better for new player to follow that approach. The whole point of dirty statting is that it is cheap. Semi-dirty with Xes is not as cheap, but IMO better value than dirty or clean.
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Friday, December 14th 2012, 7:22pm

To add to Rusty's post - mostly why would you state alt is to be able to survive if left alone with bad bunnies.. :)

I don't have enough time to level all alts, and currently having 3 alts in range 55-60, many more around L30, but using a lot of white dirty stated gear that they pass to each other. So for example, once alt hits L55 gear, it moves and leaves twink gear for next in line. (you need more then one set if you like to experiment with different classes as Rusty and I)

Also, guildies can be great help, they might already have gear to borrow, if you show interest in game.

L50 gear in WC is junk, as its only set that is 80 dura. All other sets are 110 dura.

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Friday, December 14th 2012, 8:59pm

I use the two stat fusion stones you get from CoT mini game to dirty stat lvl 55 HoS gear, with leftover RT temple yellows, this leaves the gear with two dirty greens, one lame yellow from HoS and three semi decent (for lvl 55-65 toon) Temple stats.