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Saturday, September 14th 2013, 11:02pm

Does attack matter??

Hello all i have been playing for quite a while but to prove I am still a noob I do have a question regarding statting either physical attack or magical attack. Not so long ago I saw a skill that got me thinking whether statting attack really was worth it. The description of the skill reads:

Inflicts 130.0% + 0.20 x Dexterity main hand weapon Magical Damage DPS on the target. If target is in a Weakened state then they will receive 150.0% + 0.30 x Dexterity main hand weapon Magical Damage DPS.

Because the skill states that it does "magical damage" I assume that wearing a staff clearly is better than wearing a melee weapon. However, the skill formula only states that the damage is based on a percentage of the main-hand weapon and 0.20 Dexterity multiplier. In other words, if I stat either magical or physical attack will it make it hit harder? Or does it only apply to white hits, hits that are not made with a skill? Thanks.

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Saturday, September 14th 2013, 11:28pm

If the skill is based on magical attack, it may be more benifical to stack mattack than pattack.

In this case though its a r/wl elite skill, so idk how to play that class combo.

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Saturday, September 14th 2013, 11:41pm

That's exactly my point, it is not based on magical attack but it does magical damage. It is based on main hand weapon's magical damage % and a dexterity multiplier and yes, it is r/wl lvl 25 elite skill.

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Saturday, September 14th 2013, 11:45pm

Ok, basically;

Physical Attack determines how much of your theoretical Physical Damage hits the target vs its Pdef
Magical Attack determines how much of your theoretical Magical Damage hits the target vs its Mdef

So yes, depending on the type of skill (magic or physical based) Attack IS important.

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Sunday, September 15th 2013, 11:02pm

Broken down in messy, inaccurate yet representational math, damage looks like this:

Weapon damage x skill damage - (boss/mob defense - your attack value) = damage you do to the mob. So, how hard you hit depends on three things- your weapon damage, your skill damage and how much less attack you have than the boss has def. Now, that is grossly, disgustingly oversimplified, but the concept holds.

Yes, you need attack. You need to try and get as much attack as the boss or mob you're trying to kill has in defense.
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Sunday, September 15th 2013, 11:34pm

Hello all i have been playing for quite a while but to prove I am still a noob I do have a question regarding statting either physical attack or magical attack. Not so long ago I saw a skill that got me thinking whether statting attack really was worth it. The description of the skill reads:

Inflicts 130.0% + 0.20 x Dexterity main hand weapon Magical Damage DPS on the target. If target is in a Weakened state then they will receive 150.0% + 0.30 x Dexterity main hand weapon Magical Damage DPS.

Because the skill states that it does "magical damage" I assume that wearing a staff clearly is better than wearing a melee weapon. However, the skill formula only states that the damage is based on a percentage of the main-hand weapon and 0.20 Dexterity multiplier. In other words, if I stat either magical or physical attack will it make it hit harder? Or does it only apply to white hits, hits that are not made with a skill? Thanks.
r/wl is a nice, though weird combo, the main issue is the unclarified description of the 2 dps elite skills, lvl 25 and 50. there r 2 possibilities:

- it is based in physical dps and physical attack, but in the end the resulting dmg is characterized as magical. simple example "Frantic Briar". it is based on physical weapon dps, modified via patt vs pdef, but in the end the dmg is magical, meaning it get resisted, not dodged, and can be immuned only by magic immune food

- it is purely a magical skill. meaning it s based on weapon magic dmg and modified through matt vs mdef. the main issue is the term "magical dps", which is a term used only in w/m playstyle. to increase it u need a high ratio of mdmg/attackspeed. since u r a r/wl and u cant wear wands or staves, u just stick to daggers with high mdmg/attackspeed ratio to use the skill. however u need to stack matt to hit "hard", which is not recommended for any r/- combo though.

ps. make some tests on ur lvl 45 elite, u never know what u can find out ;)

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Monday, September 16th 2013, 2:36am

Alright all thanks for the feedback. And yes, I particularly interested in the lvl 25 and lvl 50 elite skill. Thank you very much about the explanation.

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Monday, September 16th 2013, 5:26am

Someone test r/wl dps mith magical build on EN forums http://board.eu.runesofmagic.com/board41…-wl/index2.html

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