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Quoted from "MegaMouseSEC;529827"

For those that claim they do not have the time to do dailies then why are they playing an online MMO?? I say find the time or quit, if you claim you ahve not got the time to do dailies then you apparently do not have the time to hit isntances, or quest.

Quoted from "MegaMouseSEC;529827"

Mal there are always gonna be problems with botters and I am only attempting to suggest a fix that should never have needed to be done. As far as the crafting mats go it forces a botter to actually level their character and do the quests that allow them to get the mats. There could be a fix to that problem there also if some people would not attempt to shoot it down as well.

I know to gather crafting mats you ahve to do certian quests once your gathering/crafting hits certian levels. I am not totaly sure but if it was implemented that the character also had to be within 1 or 2 levels of the various gathering/crafting mandatory quests to be able to get said quest that would force Botters to level their characters. Here is something to chew on in regards to the crafting/gathering manadatory quests: if they were setup so that you had to do certian quests or chains of quests before the crafting/gathering quest became available that may discourage botters. I know plenty of players that farm materials jsut to sell in the AH which I find alright. I do not wish to prevent this just wanting to get rid of the botters and the headaches they cause.

If you're going to make an alt that is going to gather low-level mats, it takes very little time to do the quests required for the gathering skills. And the true professionals have ways--which are equally available to legitimate players--to level their bot toons. I'll let you think about those on your own.

Not once did I mention the Dog Meat farmers although some do fall into the botter set (haven't seen any on Reni for a month now farming the Dog meat) and as such I cannot in good faith say my suggestion targets just that crowd.
If only people would look at the big picture: First botters are a big problem in RoM and other games. Most of those using bots are also gold sellers (which is a known fact). Botters will only do what they have to to get what they want (money). Unfortunately with Xaveria Runewaker amde it extremely easy for gold farmers and botters to make a toon that hits level 50+ real fast. I do not think this was intentional but it is what happened and the farmers/botters are taking advantage of it. Too many players jsut want to buy their way to the top levels without even thinking about what problems they are causing for others.

In every anti-bot discussion you have either taken part in or have started--such as this one--bots farming Inferno Guard Dogs has been your main interest because of the XP/TP values for the quest, along with the gold value--selling them to other players--for stacks of the accrued daily drops. That's why I specifically mentioned it, after discussing a portion of the History of Botting in Runes of Magic, Part 1. (I'm thinking of forwarding a script treatment to Mel Brooks.) You're rather fixated on that aspect of botting, with what you might consider to be "lesser" aspects receiving much less interest.

You've proposed at least two "solutions" which really aren't. Player-operated "bot-bombs", while not uniquely your idea, are too easily open to abuse. And making all daily material drops, or just the dog meats (because, dammit, they're worth so much XP/TP and/or gold), again, just doesn't work. If you're going to suggest that, then why not just extend that to *every* item in the game being permanently bound? That way, *nothing* can be botted. Or traded. Or sold. People could save money--real life money--by not needing to buy Bind Lifters and Advanced Bind Lifters. Extend that to the hobbled "PvP gear trading" so there would be no need for gear sealers and unsealers, too. RW could do away with the Auction House, too. If you can't trade anything, it would be less than useless.

And then watch players *truly* leave RoM in those fabled droves.

"Hmm. The solution is turning blue. It's not quite the solution I expected." -- Hemlock Stomes (Firesign Theater reference)

For those that claim they do not have the time to do dailies then why are they playing an online MMO?? I say find the time or quit, if you claim you ahve not got the time to do dailies then you apparently do not have the time to hit isntances, or quest.

I have to echo Quaffy2's reply to you. It should be right above this one.

If my guild announces an instance run that I can do with one of my toons, then that takes precedence over my doing daily quests. If there's nothing going on, or if our bigger guns are going to run an instance that I can't do, then minigames, daily quests, and perhaps other leveling activities are my meat and potatoes. That is, until I run out of time to do them, or simply want to do something else that doesn't involve playing RoM.

As I suggested previously, let the GMs use the tools *they* have to combat botters. Report the buggers when you think you've found them, and let the GMs investigate and sort them out. And use my other suggestions to improve your playing enjoyment. Not that I believe I'm the Idea Master of RoM, but they're easily, IMO, far more workable than several of the ideas you've proposed, and they're almost certainly guaranteed to generate a lot less stomach acid than by obsessing on an activity over which *you* have little to no control.