Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "misskatana;589527"

So, we've had several lvl caps for toons, but could we get a level increase for pet crafting? Being stuck at 61 is kind of pathetic... it's not like it does any damage to dia sales, infact, if people's pets could do more, they might spend more dias on them....

but pet lvl cap to 75 would be peachy

lol, gtfo if you pets level capped.

He is talking about production levels, not pet level.

Yep, it would make sense, and since I am here everyone is asking for increase.... 2 years now.

My sincere apology, miss katana. (now makes sense )

I say no to pet gathering level raise. Being at 60 is good enough.

Lets devalue all the time the people put in to raising their gathering skills.

And it is way to easy to bot pet crafting.....hmmm maybe this is why you want it raised.

Pet crafting doesn't devalue gathering skills at all. Nobody wants to go out and gather raw materials, even gatherers themselves. But what gathering *is* good for is refining. Even if they increased pet crafting to 80 you'd still HAVE TO HAVE a gatherer refine it for you, no matter what. How many things do you know of that use white mats from pet crafting? Not alot.

Pet crafting should be increased for sure.

Yeah I agree, it doesn't make sense to have them gather to only 61. If you give them the ability to do something they should get a level raise when the material level raises. Same with planting. We have lvl 80 planters and lvl 79 seeds yet they do not grow lvl 75 materials.

Quoted from "Borella;589636"

Pet crafting doesn't devalue gathering skills at all. Nobody wants to go out and gather raw materials, even gatherers themselves. But what gathering *is* good for is refining. Even if they increased pet crafting to 80 you'd still HAVE TO HAVE a gatherer refine it for you, no matter what. How many things do you know of that use white mats from pet crafting? Not alot.

Pet crafting should be increased for sure.

Hmmm you think it would not devalue gathering.....you are so wrong.

If pets can gather all materials then all anyone would do for gathering/refining is bot their pets and then send the mats to a refiner....never leaving the comfort of safety. So now what would be the point of having mats to gather out in the environment?

Nice try thou.

Quoted from "Tamina;589662"

Yeah I agree, it doesn't make sense to have them gather to only 61. If you give them the ability to do something they should get a level raise when the material level raises. Same with planting. We have lvl 80 planters and lvl 79 seeds yet they do not grow lvl 75 materials.

Since I have been a crafter in this game it has always been unfinished or incomplete. The lvl 79 seeds not producing lvl 75 mats, is very similar to when they released NJF and the only Herbs you could gather were Mountain Demon Grass ( Beginner level Herb ).

@Misskatana you can not purchase the rare materials with mems. So Cooks and Alchys only need mats refined, to where Blacksmith, Carpentry, Armorsmith, Tailoring all require the rare mats. And the only way to obtain the plus lvl 70 rare mats is by gathering hence giving the people that spent the time leveling their gathering some value or at least one material that can have value.

Quoted from "kakita01;589665"

Hmmm you think it would not devalue gathering.....you are so wrong.

If pets can gather all materials then all anyone would do for gathering/refining is bot their pets and then send the mats to a refiner....never leaving the comfort of safety. So now what would be the point of having mats to gather out in the environment?

Nice try thou.

Cause its so unsafe to go gather.. Lol. Mobs in this game are a joke.

@Kakita01

I'm not sure how many crafters/gatherers you have. But using a pet to gather the mats for me have been a huge help to level my refiners. And it takes longer for a refiner to level than someone who just goes out in the world to gather. Considering I have several toons that craft pretty much everything and for some reason didn't think it through when I started my crafting lifestyle... All my refiners are lower level alts. -.- By lower level I mean 2 level 30 and 1 level 17. It took MONTHS for me to get them to level 60 refining by using mats from pets to make potions and foods. It took me a week to get from 61 to 70 by gathering out in the open world with a bodyguard (Only reason one of my toon went from 11 to 17 was because we were in a party so he can keep an eye on me.)

If you think pet gathering is devaluing the gathering in the game you might want to look closely at planting. Planting gives you greens, blues and purples. So if you were lucky you could have a level 1 planter get all the mats for you and never had to leave the safety of your house. AND you wouldn't have to level a gatherer to refine it. I'm just saying. Increasing the pet gathering would help out a lot of people and might bring interest to others out there who have not considered crafting or put it to the wayside because it is too much trouble.

And refiners (aka gatherers) will always have value because not many are at level 80 to refine the mats everyone needs. So even if their pets can gather it. They still need to find that one special person who has taken the time to nurse their gathering addiction. (I'm a craftaholic and I need help.)

Quoted from "Aoihomura;589693"

@Kakita01

I'm not sure how many crafters/gatherers you have. But using a pet to gather the mats for me have been a huge help to level my refiners. And it takes longer for a refiner to level than someone who just goes out in the world to gather. Considering I have several toons that craft pretty much everything and for some reason didn't think it through when I started my crafting lifestyle... All my refiners are lower level alts. -.- By lower level I mean 2 level 30 and 1 level 17. It took MONTHS for me to get them to level 60 refining by using mats from pets to make potions and foods. It took me a week to get from 61 to 70 by gathering out in the open world with a bodyguard (Only reason one of my toon went from 11 to 17 was because we were in a party so he can keep an eye on me.)

If you think pet gathering is devaluing the gathering in the game you might want to look closely at planting. Planting gives you greens, blues and purples. So if you were lucky you could have a level 1 planter get all the mats for you and never had to leave the safety of your house. AND you wouldn't have to level a gatherer to refine it. I'm just saying. Increasing the pet gathering would help out a lot of people and might bring interest to others out there who have not considered crafting or put it to the wayside because it is too much trouble.

And refiners (aka gatherers) will always have value because not many are at level 80 to refine the mats everyone needs. So even if their pets can gather it. They still need to find that one special person who has taken the time to nurse their gathering addiction. (I'm a craftaholic and I need help.)

You cannot bot planting so there for you have to spend ample time if you want to be a high level planter.

Still without the ability to refine.

Pet gathering does help cut out time of gathering some. And it will not take months, maybe for someone that does not use automated programs to do everything for them.

Allowing pets to gather all materials will devalue the time and effort of everyone that has spent time raising the gathering.
Why because those people using the bots to gather ( pets ) will not need a refiner because they will have lvl 1 alts sitting there refining all mats. Not hard to do.

So everyone will be self sufficient again like being pre 60 again. I think they designed the system the way it is for a reason.

Just to quell your curiosity I have a max lvl Carpenter, and max lvl Gatherers, as well as every craft in the game at 60 on the server I play.

And you know I like gathering. I enjoy crafting, I do it because I have fun with it, not to just produce some desirable in game item.

Quoted from "kakita01;589695"

You cannot bot planting so there for you have to spend ample time if you want to be a high level planter.

Ample time? It took me 3 weeks to get to 80.. and you have to check plants once or twice a day, which takes a total of 20 clicks a day. It's no harder than hitting the buy tools button 20 times to fill bag with tools.

Still without the ability to refine.

AKA: WHy we need gatherers still and pet crafting doesn't devalue gatherers.

Pet gathering does help cut out time of gathering some. And it will not take months, maybe for someone that does not use automated programs to do everything for them.
It does take a LONG time to level pet crafting, especially if you're wanting to get from say 61-80. I believe at around 60 it was taking like 80K crafts to get ONE level.. that's a long time.

Allowing pets to gather all materials will devalue the time and effort of everyone that has spent time raising the gathering.
Why because those people using the bots to gather ( pets ) will not need a refiner because they will have lvl 1 alts sitting there refining all mats. Not hard to do.

So everyone will be self sufficient again like being pre 60 again. I think they designed the system the way it is for a reason.

The self sufficient being bad argument only holds up when there's a lot of people there to provide the materials. As it is.. there's not many gatherers around to gather materials.

Just to quell your curiosity I have a max lvl Carpenter, and max lvl Gatherers, as well as every craft in the game at 60 on the server I play.

And you know I like gathering. I enjoy crafting, I do it because I have fun with it, not to just produce some desirable in game item.

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Argue with me all you like, I do not make the decisions. They designed the crafting system to work a specific way.

I would really like more ways to get rare mats after lvl 70.

Me personally I want a craft that allows us to us all the crafts to add Overdura to gear. Like a potion but requires ingredients from each craft. Say only allow crafters to take something up to 110 dura.

As a gatherer allowing people to bot gathering is something I am against and it will devalue the gatherer. I spend hours sometimes out in the environment gathering enough mats to make stuff. To be honest 30mems and 44k adds up quickly when trying to craft purple recipes.


@Borella

Here your own statement helps my arguement....."The self sufficient being bad argument only holds up when there's a lot of people there to provide the materials. As it is.. there's not many gatherers around to gather materials."

There you go so mats hold value and gatherers have value because there are not many around, allow gathering to be completely botted and what happens that devalues the gathering skills and adds even more reason for people to not do it.

Yes i find it reasonable to make pets keep up with last crafting.

When pet gathering was put in, they were at the top level of mats. It's only since mats have increased in levels that the devs stopped working on pet gathering. So, it wasn't "intended"; it was laziness.

With low population on servers, it would make sense to increase pet gathering and to speed it up a bit... but again, that would mean someone has to work... and support the game.