Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "Dkjester"

We all have heard people who think that manipulating the ranking system sets up a system of exploiting it. However, how do you change it? I finally came up with an idea which would fix, and address a lot of issues.

Ok first the timing would have to change a little bit, just due to the fact of the processing it might take and by giving more time to do the processing... Should reduce server/processor load. So the new system would look like:

Registration 1 hr, Computing time 30 minutes, Preparation stage 30 minutes, siege 1hr, end 1 hr.

So now for the part that would fix the manipulations.

Each player carries their own siege ranking. How many wins/loses/ties they have gotten and a score is assigned to each player based on these numbers. During the computing time, the servers add up the players in the guild at that time (since it is locked), and that is the effective siege ranking. This will make it so mules/noobs/people who don't log in, will rarely affect your siege score, or even people who just don't want to siege. It also means that jumping from guild to guild to guild, wont give you a low point opponent, cause you carry your personal score with you. It would also give a little bit more "variety" to the higher point guilds because their points could be pushed up or down by people leaving, joining etc.

It also gives a nice new ranking that people can brag about. Their personal siege score and how high it is and their person w/l/d ratio.

This will also fix mercs, cause what low level guild would want a merc with a high siege rank? Not many, cause it will put them against a stronger opponent. People who manipulate the system to get "easy wins" their CHARACTER will be tied with the win, not the guild so they can jump as much as the want, the will be put in the bracket with players of like kind. This would also drive lower players to have a better siege, and maybe even sieges without having to worry about gearing.



This has been something brought up tons of times and this is about the only way I think they could improve the ranking system. Any other thoughts? Ideas? Problems with this system?

Quoted from "Dkjester"

it would address it because it wont tally the number of players in game, but all the players in the guild at that time. Not just online. This is why i would want people that dont siege to have a low, or no score, because they wont hurt the siege rating by being in the guild, since they will have little to no score due to their lack of participation in siege. So the people who just log on for siege would still be counted, more importantly as long as they are there for rewards their personal score will be updated. That eliminates those loop holes to exploit.



Now the only hole I can think of is if they only siege for the fun, and log out just at the end before getting pacakges would be the only way their character record would not be recorded, keeping it low.

Quoted from "Ziav"

Quoted from "Dkjester"

This could also punish the guild. What happens when a guild gets a fairly decent turn out for weekend sieges, but doesn't during weekday sieges. Counting players that aren't online and using that towards a guild score wouldn't work either. You could potentially have high point guilds with 3 people due to the timing during the work week. I like your basic idea I just see too many ways it can be exploited or hurtful towards a guild.

Another way it could be done, and yes with coding on RW's part, would be to have a popup that shows up when you log in each day, before your guild has sieged, and before matchups are posted, asking if you want to participate that day. If you say yes, then your score would be counted and you would be allowed into siege. If you say no, your score is not counted and you can not enter siege. One of the options would need to be done before the matchups are posted. This could allow your idea without causing inflated or artificial numbers based on lack of turnout.

Quoted from "Dkjester"

Here is some clarification of the system: Someone who doesn't do siege will have a rank of 0. It could be done like Losses-0 pts Draws-1 pt, Wins-2 pts, or even Draws-0 pts as well (depending on how you feel about ties). Add em all up and you have a guild score. Yes, you may have fluxuations, but the only way to manipulate your score would be to kick out people that do siege and wont be on, to drop your point score. It stops guild hoppers, point droppers. Only way to not increase your score will be to lose/tie (if you set ties to 0). This means newer guilds that are trying out their first siege, will have a low to no score, so the should get someone else with a low/no score.