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Tuesday, November 19th 2013, 2:34am

A new contest idea

Since there are so many who refuse to report gold spammers because they feel it is too much hassle, GF's responsibility, not worth their time, etc., I propose a reward system for those who do take the time to report them.

My suggested reward is for the first 3 people who report the same gold spammer to split equally whatever megaphones or diamonds are left on that char. Each person can only win one time in a 24 hour period. No rewards given if only 1 or 2 report the gold spammer before a Mod gets in to do the banning. This will have the effect of getting more players doing the reporting of the gold spammers and get the mods to remove the spammers faster.

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Tuesday, November 19th 2013, 2:40am

+1

i totally wanna see this implemented, almost as much as a pvp arena that gm's can port the spammers to, and make them auto-attack each other(after muting, ofc...)

if this is implemented, palenque watch out, I GOT MEGAS!!!!
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Tuesday, November 19th 2013, 4:32am

I refuse to do it, because I dont play much anymore and besides, when is anythign done? after reporting dog meat botters and nothing being done? yeah.
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Tuesday, November 19th 2013, 8:43am

Add that to the fact that the spammer probably have a lot of dia's on them wouldnt happen it would ruin the games economy because people are greedy.


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Tuesday, November 19th 2013, 10:43am

I refuse to do it, because I dont play much anymore and besides, when is anythign done? after reporting dog meat botters and nothing being done? yeah.

Gigi... If you refuse to do it because "you don't play much anymore" that is a personal choice. My only statement to that is: quit being lazy and get back in game. As for dog meat botters, you have read the statement below many many times:
Botters require investigation hence, the support portal, where as spammers can be reported by using the support portal or by an IRC pm to a mod. I reported a gold spammer by an IRC pm to a mod yesterday and spammer was gone by the time I switched screens back to the game.


Add that to the fact that the spammer probably have a lot of dia's on them wouldnt happen it would ruin the games economy because people are greedy.

If the gold spammer has "lots of dias" s/he either:

A.) went to the website and purchased them,
B.) used zeevex to purchase them, or
C.) bought them from the AH. (Please do not openly state the 4th option the spammer could obtain them.)

As for the stuff on the spammers, if they obtained the dias by methods a, b, or c, they are already in game: economy not ruined, just a redistribution of an item already there.

BTW, this suggestion was more or less to redistribute the megaphones the spammers purchased with diamonds and the chances of said spammer having any dias left is very small.

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Tuesday, November 19th 2013, 1:14pm

...We all know that the gold spammers purchase the diamonds from the AH. I kinda like this idea. Gives great incentive to reporting them.

I fear though that it will be additional work sorting the influx of reports, and then worrying about the first X number of people to report AND then determining if they're eligible to collect. Seems like way too much work, so much that GF will likely not go for it.

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Tuesday, November 19th 2013, 4:39pm

What about this then....you report teh spammer, GM goes in to game, hammers spammer, drops gm food into your bag, and leaves...
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Tuesday, November 19th 2013, 5:03pm

How about for a new contest instead of that maybe another of those screen shot contests where the players take a screenshot of they're outfits and since it's the holloween festival the theme should be scary or maybe not outfits but just something scary and have like the top 5 most voted will win something like 100mil gold or eggrice and things since i dont know how there is any left.


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Tuesday, November 19th 2013, 8:30pm

Didn't I already explain why reporting spammers and getting them banned makes things worse, not better?
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Tuesday, November 19th 2013, 10:59pm

Dont think so no.


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Tuesday, November 19th 2013, 11:52pm

Yes I did.... let me try this again. When gold spammer is banned, a new one is created pretty soon. The problem of gold spamming is not eliminated. But, the new toon usually buys the dias on AH right away and starts spamming. So, instead of gold seller sitting around on bad gold, it is pumped into circulation. Additional bad gold is bad, for inflationary reasons. And the number of diamond auctions available for purchase by actual players goes down by 2-3. That is not good for players, because more limited supply pushes prices up.

So, the problem is not better in any way, GMs/CMs have extra work, and economy suffers. Lose/lose. Till RW gets off their butts and get serious about giving tools to GF, it is better to leave them be.
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Wednesday, November 20th 2013, 10:38pm

If they made the level requirement to buy diamond high enough, say, level 65, it would take an unfeasible amount of gold each spam toon to level 65, and they'd spend more gold advertising than selling, making it unprofitable. Also, there probably wouldn't be anywhere near enough of XP orbs on the server to support this kind of leveling for all those goldseller toons. When XP orbs run out, no more goldsellers in world.
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Wednesday, November 20th 2013, 10:45pm

level restrictions are not the answer IMO...
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Wednesday, November 20th 2013, 11:55pm

A level requirement to BUY diamonds (BUY, not sell.) on the auction house could work. You don't really need to ever buy or use diamonds until you're fairly high level anyway. I feel like that would be a reasonable restriction.
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Thursday, November 21st 2013, 12:48am

As long as GIFTING to low level toons is not hampered by a level restriction on buying diamonds on the AH, then I could also support this idea. I hate level restrictions on things but this seems like it could work.

I only mention this because most of my new "I intend to keep and level and use these" toons get a perm mount when they get to be level 10-15, after Varanas. I'd hate for that to be restricted by this.

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Thursday, November 21st 2013, 12:51am

You all realize that this is a thread to motivate people to report gold spammers using world chat? It has absolutely nothing, zero, zip, nada to do with anything else besides GETTING PEOPLE TO REPORT GOLD SPAMMERS WHO ARE USING WORLD CHAT and an attempt to get GF to reward those who do. Please keep it on topic. Thank you.

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Thursday, November 21st 2013, 12:53am

Yes except we all know that's not going to happen so we're looking for alternative options, like getting rid of the need to report them in world chat whatsoever.


You all realize that this is a thread to motivate people to report gold spammers using world chat? It has absolutely nothing, zero, zip, nada to do with anything else besides GETTING PEOPLE TO REPORT GOLD SPAMMERS USING WORLD CHAT and an attempt to get GF to reward those who do. Please keep it on topic. Thank you.


Yes I agree. I wouldn't suggest that gifting be hampered, cause most people are smart enough not to gift or sell to a goldspammer. The restriction should only affect the auction house.

As long as GIFTING to low level toons is not hampered by a level restriction on buying diamonds on the AH, then I could also support this idea. I hate level restrictions on things but this seems like it could work.

I only mention this because most of my new "I intend to keep and level and use these" toons get a perm mount when they get to be level 10-15, after Varanas. I'd hate for that to be restricted by this.
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Thursday, November 21st 2013, 2:07am

Gold spammers have been around since game came out of Beta (so have I). There have never been nor will there ever be level restrictions placed on purchasing diamonds either from GF or from AH. Therefore. your point Borella, is moot. When I started, dias were in AH at a mere 1 to 2K per. I bought them using questing gold and used them for the purchase of my first mount as well as quite a few Gods Redemption Tickets. I think I was around a level 8 mage/rogue at the time. You can easily get to level buying xp orbs. In this case, if you force the gold spammers to use their gold to purchase those xp orbs, you run the risk of being banned for having spammer gold mixed with good RoM gold. Still want a level restriction?

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Thursday, November 21st 2013, 4:59am

Gold spammers have been around since game came out of Beta (so have I). There have never been nor will there ever be level restrictions placed on purchasing diamonds either from GF or from AH. Therefore. your point Borella, is moot. When I started, dias were in AH at a mere 1 to 2K per. I bought them using questing gold and used them for the purchase of my first mount as well as quite a few Gods Redemption Tickets. I think I was around a level 8 mage/rogue at the time. You can easily get to level buying xp orbs. In this case, if you force the gold spammers to use their gold to purchase those xp orbs, you run the risk of being banned for having spammer gold mixed with good RoM gold. Still want a level restriction?
You can't possibly assert that there will never be a level restriction on buying diamonds from the AH. You're not an employee of GF or of Runewaker, therefore you have no more clue than anyone else what they might do. Hell, we lived for years without diamonds in the AH, waiting till level 60 or 65 would be far from the end of the world.

If you were reading the thread and using your reading comprehension skills you would realize that if a level restriction of say, 60 were put in to buy diamonds from the auction house, it wouldn't be possible for gold spammers to "just buy xp orbs". There's not enough xp orbs in the game to get a character to level 60 over and over and over again. I doubt there's even enough in the AH to get one to level 60.

And since gifting would still be an option, there would still be ways for legit players to get item shop items before level 60. Although if you even half ass it you can get to 60 in a few days and you get a couple weeks of free mounts from levelling bags so, again, you really don't need AH dias until above that level anyway.

Your last point is moot. Obviously spammer gold is getting into the economy anyway because they're buying diamonds from the AH. They're pumping MUCH more gold into the game right now by buying diamonds from the AH than they ever would by buying xp orbs, considering making them buy xp orbs would most likely just run them out of the game completely.

So yes, I do still want a level restriction. It is by far the most superior option. It wouldn't affect GF whatsoever, and if anything it would be positive for them because people would have to buy diamonds with no option of just buying cheap gold.
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Thursday, November 21st 2013, 10:52am

FM.. Since this thread is being taken to places it was never intended to go and was intended as a thread to get others just to report gold spammers,you can close it now before I type what I really want to type

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