Runes of Magic US / AU

yeah...um, no.

you would have to count ALL the people who buy diamond items from friends/AH/world also, because without them, the dia sellers have no reason to buy as many diamonds, and thus, less diamonds would be bought...

I think it is a common misconception about F2P players being a driving force for buying more diamonds. It isn't. The gold they get is. Think of it this way:

If no one was F2P, everyone would be paying something. More people paying a little is better than a small group paying a lot. If this wasn't the case no game would every go pay per month.

If everyone was F2P, no one would be buying diamonds... and the game would die.

If there were less people buying the diamonds that people buy.... they would just buy less and diamond prices would probably come down.


I like the idea of a bonus for the people actually paying the money, getting a bonus of some sort. The people that don't like it are the ones that have become accustomed to not spending money. They are probably the ones who have vowed to never spend a dime, or another dime. Obviously the normal perks of buying diamonds isn't enough to keep people paying... so they need to offer more.


Here is an example, yes it is from a different game, I wont use its name but anyone who has played it will figure out what it is... and it is "free to play"

You purchase diamond-like items which you can use for a multitude of things. Including a time based bonus on what you get in game. Without this bonus it is VERY hard to get to the top of the stack, and keeping yourself from going poor.

You can purchase things that make your "character" better but you can also purchase these for "in game gold too"

You cant transfer these "diamonds", so each person that wants the goodies have to open their wallet.

It turns a very good profit.

The game is pay to win enough already. What they really need to do is just change the diamond prices. You should get 6-7K diamonds for 100 bucks AT ALL TIMES, and then 12-14K on double dias.

1) you already get bonus dias for buying in bulk
2) there is already an incentive to buy dias...they are called rubies...

you don't want to be in the few that pays for the rest of us? don't pay, and go f2p....

argue all you want about how you are the saviors keeping the servers running by buying dias, but it all come down to the fact that you chose to use real money to advance in the game...it was not mandatory, it was a choice...just because you haven't gotten what you hoped for out of the game for the money you threw at it, doesn't mean they shortchanged you in any way...

also, they already had a bonus for long term players...it was called score for more, implemented on EU servers...apparently it was full of bugs and people QQing about how they didn't get there bonuses that they "deserved"...SFM has been canceled...

honestly, I think the game is waaaaay too expensive ATM, and would like to see the costs go down...

yes, I am f2p, but as soon as GF/RW convinces me things will get better, both with the game itself and management, I would happily go out and purchase diamonds again....

So, cike you and I bought diamonds in the past but haven't done so in a long time, but we would be able to still be eligible for this suggested event

Quoted from "ghostwolf82"

So, cike you and I bought diamonds in the past but haven't done so in a long time, but we would be able to still be eligible for this suggested event

while i would not turn down goodies, i just don't see where this entitlement mentality is coming from...

honestly, i agree with cike on this. i used to spend $100 a week on non-sale dias and $200-300 on double dias, i of course dont buy them as much anymore but thats because i have enough to last me for a very long time, spread out on several acounts... i dont sell them for gold or so i can feel better than everyone else, i dont even use them to make my toons stronger, i buy dias for 2 reasons, #1 if something new comes out i want to be able to stock up on it before it gets taken away like the new runes did, #2 i give alot of them away for free, for example if my guild is doing a world boss fight i will supply everyone with as many pheonix redemptions as they want until the boss is finally dead, then comes debt removal tickets..

just because i choose to buy dias doesnt mean i should get something extra with it for free... think of it this way, if every dia buyer was to stop buying dias, every player would have to go find a new game...

while this game breaks alot and has more issues than i could list in a week, its still one of the best games out there due to the fact that you get sooooo much wiggle room to customize the game the way you like it.

i think Gameforge should make this game cost $5/month and keep the itemshop in the game as well. if every player only put in $5 a month then RoM would meet its monthly quota so itemshop prices could be lowered and dias-per-dollar could be raised.

if you feel you deserve something extra because you buy dias then i feel sorry for you. dias are a premium currency in the game, why would you feel you deserve more because you CHOSE to spend money on a game that you dont have to?

Damn, I'm *still* out of cheese...

ill go buy some "whine" if you go get squeeze cheese lol

Sorry guys but I do not get a self entitlement post out of what MrJoshua posted.

There is nothing wrong with Companies giving extra rewards to long term customers or customers that purchase in bulk. Is sorta of a well used business gimmick. You know it does something of the nature of making your customers feel good and appreciated which usually leads to them spending more or continuing with your product but not always ofcourse.

The game has been out about 5 years now and they only once repriced their item shop which ended taking away and actually raising the cost of the game.

And you know I changed my opinion about having some type of compensation for all the difficulties over the last month, from losing out on DRT sales, losing out on SW for a week, losing out on 4x Exp weekend ( On Reni we only ended up with 2x EXP instead of what the event stated which was 250% or something ridiculous like that ), to every weekend we have had houses get locked n server restarts due to major server crashes ( AND GUESS WHAT THIS IS EFFECTING YOUR ENTIRE NA SERVER CLUSTER ). If the issues had only been a few days or one or two weekends I would not feel like this but since these issues have been persistent I will gladly look forward to the next batch of MAJOR ISSUES this Thanksgiving Festival brings.

They have already said there is to be no thanksgiving festival. This year, just like in stores across America (they ARE paying attention to the way we do our holidays it seems...), they are going from Halloween to Christmas.

I for one am against giving extra in this manner. The item shop needs to be reworked, more items need to be put into it, better 'sales' need to happen, there needs to be a price reduction overall, and diamonds for the amount of RL monies you spend need to be increased.

I think it is an excellent idea to reward people that buy diamonds. Regardless of what any F2P players think the game would die without the diamond buyers. Most companies that I know of give out a little gift to their good customers at Christmas Time, usually it is a gift certificate or movie tickets or something along those lines. I think even once a year, depending on total dollars spent for the year, a little gift should be left in your mailbox as a "thank you for being a good customer", even like a few jewels, or golden hammers or resets, things like this . Not asking for the world here just a little something.

Paying customers keep this game open, not F2P players. F2P players also benefit from diamond buyers so I really can't understand why they whining about paying customers asking to be rewarded. I don't get that??

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Okay, no cheese, no whine.

I disagree with the proposition. You already get things for helping support the game. They're called "Item Shop" products.

'Nuff said.

Quoted from "Malignatus"

Okay, no cheese, no whine.

I disagree with the proposition. You already get things for helping support the game. They're called "Item Shop" products.

'Nuff said.

Ofcourse cause your always a negative nancy, kids sometimes you do got to ignore the grumpy old men.

How do you feel about Capital Ones reward programs? Lots of business offer incentives for spending, RoM been out long enough no reason why they could not polish the Score 4 More program for all 28 communities or something similar to that program, so the European Brothers and Sisters of Taborea got extra rewards ( I heard they did not all work all the time but nothing new to us Long time players ).

Quoted from "Malignatus"

Okay, no cheese, no whine.

I disagree with the proposition. You already get things for helping support the game. They're called "Item Shop" products.

'Nuff said.

You must be misunderstanding the concept of this post. Item shop items we buy with our own hard earned money to play a game, and by doing so we allow the game to keep going. We allow for the owners of this game to make money for themselves.... SO we are just saying it would be nice for them to give back a little something to those of us that actually do spend money on the game. Simple no? It's called customer appreciation and thousands of businesses do this all the time in one form or another.

Quoted from "kakita01"

Quoted from "Malignatus"

Okay, no cheese, no whine.

I disagree with the proposition. You already get things for helping support the game. They're called "Item Shop" products.

'Nuff said.

Ofcourse cause your always a negative nancy, kids sometimes you do got to ignore the grumpy old men.

How do you feel about Capital Ones reward programs? Lots of business offer incentives for spending, RoM been out long enough no reason why they could not polish the Score 4 More program for all 28 communities or something similar to that program, so the European Brothers and Sisters of Taborea got extra rewards ( I heard they did not all work all the time but nothing new to us Long time players ).

This is rich, coming from someone who has absolutely *nothing* good to say about the game.

Allow me to add to the Item Shop products that you get: Rubies. Not that I think for one nanosecond that you'd agree. After all, we don't get Ruby bonuses for most of the IS sale items. (There are a few exceptions, but most of you kvetch and whine about what's being sold.)

S4M was Europe-only, and you damned well know it. If you wanted to participate in S4M, you should have gone away from here and played on the EU servers, and spent your money there. It would have balanced out since GF would have gotten the money either way.

Next silly argument as to why you think you should receive special treatment from GF?

Quoted from "Jada28"

Quoted from "Malignatus"

Okay, no cheese, no whine.

I disagree with the proposition. You already get things for helping support the game. They're called "Item Shop" products.

'Nuff said.

You must be misunderstanding the concept of this post. Item shop items we buy with our own hard earned money to play a game, and by doing so we allow the game to keep going. We allow for the owners of this game to make money for themselves.... SO we are just saying it would be nice for them to give back a little something to those of us that actually do spend money on the game. Simple no? It's called customer appreciation and thousands of businesses do this all the time in one form or another.

Oh, no. I don't misunderstand at all.

I disagree with the proposition that people who spend RL money on this game should get special treatment from GF or gift items from them for supporting the game.

Now, if there was no way to "gift" IS stuff to other players, and diamonds were removed from the AH, MrJoshua, you, and others might have a point. But if that was the case, then GF would have to turn RoM into a subscription game because there would be virtually *no* F2P players hanging around. Sorry, but they wouldn't be able to exist on Phirius Tokens alone.

I could argue that outside of MrJoshua, every other person who agrees with his idea is simply another freebie-grubbing greedhead, who probably doesn't need those freebies anyway.

But I won't.

I say no to the entire thing.

Quoted from "Malignatus"

I could argue that outside of MrJoshua, every other person who agrees with his idea is simply another freebie-grubbing greedhead, who probably doesn't need those freebies anyway.

Quoted from "Malignatus"

But I won't.

Quoted from "Malignatus"

I say no to the entire thing.

Contradictions, Contradictions, I said something that I won't say.

It is a suggestion nothing more, you stated your opinion and others have stated theirs.

The population on the NA serves is dwindled so maybe if they offered better incentives they could slow down the shrinkage.

So you basically want to see the game shut down?

Plenty more suggestions of what people want should continue to be posted.

And they should polish off the S4M ( call it Rewards Prgoram if they want ) and offer it to all 28 communities they manage.

Whilest me doth believe that the item shop tis too expensive, Me doth agree wit Malignatus on this one. Diamond buyers already get bonuses. Iffn yer want MORE bonuses, say so. Don't say yer want em, say yer want an increase.

Diamond buyers get rubies.
Diamond buyers get bonus diamonds.

What more doth yer desire?