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No, just no. No warlock needs this. If you can't manage your PSI, play something else.

no...thats like druids asking for NPP potions...

Yeah, it would be very much the exact same thing.

Druids get NP Skills + also the VN cape that gives 3 NP...

correct me if i am wrong, but doesn't psychic arrows, warlock's staple, give psi?


honestly, if u can't manage psi, warlock probably isn't the best class for you...just roll a mage...

I would not complain if we got PSI pots since it would be the similar to a rage pot. To Cike point Psychic arrows only give one PSI so building it with that skill is a very bad idea for certain warlock classes. Many boss fights would be over before u have a full bar if psychic arrow is the only move used since it has a cast time. As a Lock/mage I have no issues with psi however because we are blessed with FHS (3 psi) and it can be reset. Also Wclaude, We just got a new set skill that gives 1 psi (even in willpower state) and another 2 psi 30 seconds late for free. However I do not recommend using this skill to build initial psi, it should be used after you have used some psi since it is the only move that adds psi while in burn.

Well scout gets focus potions, warrior gets rage potions, rogue gets energy potions, priests and knights get mana potions. This could work too, don't hate people, it is a suggestion and a legitimate one i think.

Why would it be that bad? keep it civil as FM said please and discuss the matter ;-)

I have a Warlock I just have not played him, so forgive me for my possible arrogance.

Isn't PSI obtained and stacked the exact same way as Nature's Power on Druid? If Warlocks get a PSI pot I want a NPP pot for my Druid, cause everyone knows Druids have a hard time keeping it up (yes, dirty puns intended).

PSI does not work like Natures Power. It it is a bar that can only be filled while the user is in combat. So if i kill a normal mob with a psy arrow i will get 1 psi and it will vanish because I am no longer in combat. A druid can stack natures power before a boss fight we locks cannot and need to build it during the fight.

If you read my guides on the various warlock class combos, I have outlined the ways to get PSI on all class combos. If you can't use a full rotation, again, play something else. Warlocks in no way need a PSI potion. Instead, GF needs to get RW to spend the time fixing the damage on some of the skills (The Wl/R 50 elite and the Warlock skill severed consciousness both need to have the damage fixed long before anything else is done to warlocks).

Warlocks have a full rotation to use before you even get into a willpower state, which is different from druids. Most of the druids rotation consists of skills that require NPP, the warlock does not NEED PSI for most things. PSI is given during the main rotation and then used on a sort of "bonus" couple of skills. There is like 3 or 4 skills that can be used to give a boost to damage once you have the PSI needed, and if you can't be bothered to build up to that point then you don't deserve the extra damage that comes along with it.

Ah, I see. Thanks for the explanation. I can see both sides of the argument here then. If it requires combat to build up, so does a Warrior/Champion's rage....and they have Rage pots to use to get a jump on it.

But, it sounds like the Warlock doesn't NEED PSI to use most of his offensive skills, while a Champ/Warrior does need rage.

Ghost is right that we don't NEED psi pots. But if they are ever added I am going to buy a truck ton While ghost wolf's point is extremely valid a warlock would not be that good without PSI skills. We need them to be apart of our rotation or we fail. When I raid Hard mode instances I am last in group damage before i hit psi burn. I then will jump to 1st or 2nd in about 5 seconds during willpower blade. Last night on Blind Hackman I had 250k dps/30mill damage and that is factoring in all my dots bringing my dps average down. That being said PSI right off the get go with allow a lock/mage to get 7 FHS/SBS right out of the gate each hitting for major damage and at full speed you could build another set of PSI in 4 seconds or less and do it all over again. That would be a massive shift in power and I would make people call me LordPacker and I would claim my Varanas Throne.

Which is why we should never have a PSI potion. If a Warlock can build PSI right away, it changes things to be in their favor and no other class stands a chance to be as much DPS or Damage as a warlock. As it stands, warlock is meant to be a late burn boost to the damage for the entire party, which IMO is a great thing. It means that the idio-tards are going to stay away from the warlock as a whole and will keep us from getting a nerf to our damage. Leave the class alone, it is difficult to play for a reason and the skilled players are finding out just how great it can be in the right hands.

I have a great DIYCE rotation built up for 2 warlock combos that I am not sharing. I do not plan to share it with the masses either. If they can't figure out the rotation, they don't need to be playing it. There is only one person I have shared my warlock diyce with, and he isn't giving it out either. We don't want it being passed around to anyone who doesn't understand the combo and getting to play it anyways, like the rogue diyce gets passed to new players who then have no need to learn their class. Which is what a PSI potion would do, let new people be able to play a warlock and not really have to learn a proper rotation because they can get RIGHT to the best skills we have. No thank you. Let the idio-tards go play a rogue.

Well i wouldn't mind the potions, make them level 85 and i will make a killing on AH with them!!!! mouhahahaha pure EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!

while I can see how psi pots would be useful, u don't NEED psi to do damage...like ghost pointed out, psi is used to gain extra damage(albeit the bulk of their damage, but still, extra)...same way druids don't NEED NPP, except for a select few skills, but NPP augments their existing healing....

that being said, if they make psi pots, I want a pot that stacks my elven mystic spell to 5 so I can use it immediately...or a pot that applies both bleed and grevious wound so I can jump right to WA...

@zid: warlocks can use focus pots to refill their focus pool the same way champions can use rage pots...

NPP is pretty much like energy/focus, while psi is like rage...we have all 3 energy, rage and focus pots, but no NPP pot, so why should there be a psi pot?

As much as I would love to have PSI pots, we don't need them. Another topic against this would be in siege, how unbalanced would it be if I could pop a psi pot and go directly to my hardest hitting skills? The idea is a valid one, just not practical.

Damn it, i was just trying to make a few more millions of gold!!!! how can i make a living here, you guys are killing me!!!! mouhahahahaha

Idk why flame so much this idea. Warlocks are indeed a good dps class, no matter what, having psi or not. I like the idea, b/c, i think all warlocks have 5 or around that skills that consumes PSI. Two of them are elites, and sometimes are a key point for their rotation. Idk about you, but i've never been able to cast any psi skill in siege. Not practical at all, unless you're a 500k warlock with a healer on you. So it'd be cool if you could get some of those off some times. I can't see how can it be broken, more than , m/wd/d earth growing blade or magma blade, combo throw, or anything like that, which have 4~6s cooldown, and a lot other ones. I can't see how you can compare druid's NP, but i can compare PSI to Rage. For PSI to be effective, you have to be full(6) while with rage you can have as low as 20~30 and still do something, rage goes down slower, takes longer to start dropping, and their cape/pot does fill the full bar.

I think just so it's not too easy, they could increase ISS WL's get from dalanis to 4 PSI regen, or make a potion for 4 PSI, make them even 5 minutes cooldown if you really think it's OP. It won't affect that much in pve, since you'll use it only once, and not right on start of the fight, and maybe give the opportunity to use PSI skills in siege, and have a real, or almost, ressurrection skill. You'll still need to manage Psi that way, if ppl are afraid warlocks will become an easy class, won't make it OP/broken, and will make them more fun to play.

This is my opinion, if you agree or not, well, that's your opinion .

Quoted from "marcelcrazy2"

This is my opinion, if you agree or not, well, that's your opinion .

thank you for your opinion ^.^

but i respectfully disagree.

psi =/= rage simply due to the fact that the minority of warlock skills require psi. warlock already gets insta-WPB, and i think even thats OP in pvp...

all classes have skills that may not be as useful as we want in pvp, yet still have their place in pve...psi is more of a pve aspect of warlocks, just like flame for mage and snipe for scout(yes, ik they can be used in pvp also, but with much limited effectiveness). worse case scenario, u see group/uber geared player coming alone, pop a couple psychic arrows and other psi building skills at the balloons, silence/stun/root(w/o killing) one, and yay! psi!


quick (noob) question before i make assumptions:
do you lose psi while in combat? or does it only decrease when u leave combat?