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Thursday, December 12th 2013, 10:11pm

Proof of Myth costs

As each new patch comes and new proof of myth gear becomes available, the cost of the new gear continues to increase. Now it is up to 8 proof of myth for a lvl 85 chest piece or necklace.

I would think that the proof gear, similar to how the cost of phirius shell gear changes, should cost 5 proofs per piece of gear at the highest available level and the lower level gears be reduced.

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Thursday, December 12th 2013, 10:29pm

This is a very good point. I did not mind the slight increase but the amount of proofs we get has gone way down and the amount you need for stats has gone way up. When PoM started 15 per boss and gear only cost 5. Now you only get 5 PoM and costs are 8.

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Friday, December 13th 2013, 1:24am

Both valid points. I don't see the reasoning behind the continuous raise in price for this everytime new gear in introduced.

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Friday, December 13th 2013, 3:21am

POM is end gamer gear. As endgamers get to be more powerful, their ability to farm L75 bosses for POMs increases. Yesterday all-OP raid is today's good group is tomorrow small group. Think Zanka - it used to require OP raid, now a small decent DPS group can down it. So, since POMs are technically a lot easier to obtain, they have to devalue them. That is done both via reduction of number of POMs you get and via increased POM cost of gear.

That is same principle behind memento price increases. More advanced gear means more mementos.

So, why is that not done same way with shells? Well, because your ability to farm shells is not increased as you level up, unlike your ability to farm POMs and mementos. You get same shells at L70 as you get at L82, thus L70 gear at the time when 70 is cap is worth the same as L82 gear when 82 is cap.
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Friday, December 13th 2013, 5:33am

Fair point, then I propose World Proof bosses lvl up with the players just like mobs do in the mini games now. That way they still drop 15 POM and its more worth it to get a party together. At the moment you kill a world boss, split up POM so that you can entice a party to get POM. Everyone get 2 or 1 noone gets a pull for a long while.

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Friday, December 13th 2013, 6:01am

I agree with you Rusty makes perfect sense.

The problem is lowering the drop from the bosses. Kill each world boss say 3 times per week. Used to drop 45 proofs now drops 15 per boss.
So even though the price has increased the amoumt of proofs gainable on any server per week has fallen to a point where its pointless farming them.

Even if it was enough for 1 roll per kill people would be happy. As it stands you can kill 3 world bosses and not have enough to roll twice.....

EDIT: Its kinda like clearing the last boss and having a 50/50 chance of loot dropping.

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Friday, December 13th 2013, 6:07am

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POM is end gamer gear. As endgamers get to be more powerful, their ability to farm L75 bosses for POMs increases. Yesterday all-OP raid is today's good group is tomorrow small group. Think Zanka - it used to require OP raid, now a small decent DPS group can down it. So, since POMs are technically a lot easier to obtain, they have to devalue them. That is done both via reduction of number of POMs you get and via increased POM cost of gear.

That is same principle behind memento price increases. More advanced gear means more mementos.


We haven't gotten to that stage yet though. Yesterday's all OP raid is today's server PuG group & mid-endgame guild party, and both gets !@#$%'d because by the time they can do it, drop is extremely low and PoM cost of proof gear is sky high.
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Friday, December 13th 2013, 1:29pm

The system is flawed. If the current proofs per lvl cap continues we will get 0 proofs at lv 85 for world boss kills and items will cost 8 proofs. That would make the only boss that drops POM for lvl cap players the new fire boss in sarlo and the POM dropped from her might go down at lvl 85 also.

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Friday, December 13th 2013, 4:19pm

5 is the minimum.

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Friday, December 13th 2013, 4:29pm

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5 is the minimum.
Thanks for clearing that up. That is sort of a relief. Proof of Myths have become rare on Indigo and we have half the population of some servers so I can imagine the slim to none chance of getting them on more populated servers.

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Friday, December 13th 2013, 8:46pm

Another suggestion would be increasing the number of "elite" world bosses. Make a few other world boss 75+ versions, like Krolin, or that one in Merdin. Maybe Syrbal pass ones(the ones that drops the 500 public points item, or that big troll in the lava).
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Friday, December 13th 2013, 10:04pm

easier solution that would still end up with proofs all going to same people would be go back to 3 channels in each zone with a world boss that drops proof of myths.

still even with the changes as said above they are becoming easier to farm with smaller groups... though i miss the days of negative aggro and 2 manning furious hippo with a healer at level 75. And before i took an almost 6 month break from the game 3-5 manning spider priestess(because it was hard to duo when guildies keep showing up)...

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Friday, December 13th 2013, 10:11pm

dia modes for all instances up to lvl 55...scale to lvl, and drop proofs...
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

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Friday, December 13th 2013, 10:25pm

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dia modes for all instances up to lvl 55...scale to lvl, and drop proofs...
Get this man off the forums. Ideas this good are not allowed. Its about time for Eve and her friends to show up with a proof event. that will quiet the masses.

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Friday, December 13th 2013, 10:42pm

also like atrie's idea of 3 channels again...would make WB's much easier to farm, and more proofs...

not that i just want 2 more chances to get the bone agg/cacti, not at all...think of the proofs...
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Tuesday, March 11th 2014, 2:51pm

Since this was posted, I would like add that I think its great they are adding new world bosses that drop proofs. The rise in cost in Proof items is still a problem but at least there are more sources.

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Wednesday, March 12th 2014, 5:30am

Honestly Wodjin is probably harder now than when he was released. So is North Tergothen because everyone was bugging them to kill them. So if we're going off of a difficulty to farm change, Wodjin and Targonhaul should be dropping more now that they're fixed :)

Anyway for real, Proofs are one of the most idiotic parts of the game at the moment. Pitiful amounts of proofs with an ever increasing cost when it is some of the best gear in the game. Is ridiculous. Best gear and stats in the game should not come from a level 75 world boss that doesn't even drop enough proofs per kill to pull one 72 dura piece with a wis/matk on it.
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Wednesday, March 12th 2014, 7:13am

Quoted from "Cike"

also like atrie's idea of 3 channels again...would make WB's much easier to farm, and more proofs...

not that i just want 2 more chances to get the bone agg/cacti, not at all...think of the proofs...




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Wednesday, March 12th 2014, 11:55am

POMS are what end game guilds farm ( with an alt that sits there waiting for the boss) I care not what they cost as my guild has 0 chance at getting them . The only way we as a mid. LVL guild get any is the event.. Jack the price up to 15 POMS per, see if most players give a damn.

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Wednesday, March 12th 2014, 1:59pm

Me doth agree, Smid.
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