Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "sertet"

Point I'm making is that this is not a sale for charges, it's a sale for plussing jewels. Charges were on happy hour 3 days ago for 5 diamonds per 10
The whole "well people who need charges see it as a gift for buying charges" is just too unlikely. The fact that it is broken into weapon/armor/accessory/wings just shows the intention is to get people to go for specific jewels. After all, if the extra items are just a gift, why not lump all the jewels into a single gasha?

This is a plussing sale that is just gambling on top of gambling.

Yeah. Good thinking. What are people, crazy? Just because you get 100% chance of charges and paying the price that you normally pay for charges, that makes it a charge sale? Absolutely not. I say since items for sale have a small probability of giving you something other than charges, that means it is sale on that small probability item. Then you can project the full cost onto that item and arrive at real meaningful statistic.

Ta-da! Magic math achieved. I is genius. They should put me in charge of Federal Reserve.

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Well people wanted plussing jewels, where you got them, mouhahahahaha. I just think that we will all have to stick with +12 items. How many years did we only have + 6 or + 12 jewels and none complained when we only had those.

Use your gear for more than a patch, who needs to get the latest gear/weapon all the time?? and the answer is??? ENDGAMERS !!!!!!

Who buys the most diamonds in game with real life money??? and the answer is??? NOT ENDGAMERS!! F2P they are.

Who upgrades and switch flavor of the month toons every chapters?? and the answer is??? ENDGAMERS!!!!!!

I personnaly won't have to switch to better gear till maybe level 85 or i would wait till level 90 even, why?? because that the way ROM is. A lot of people are endgame geared, paid a fortune of in game gold to get and still aren't running GCH or SC, why? because they are lazy or can't seem to get along and get PUG groups to go with them.

Your entire post is based on the premise that everyone upgraded their gear recently, so nobody needs +16's since we don't need to upgrade gear every patch. I think the danger of doing that should be pretty evident.

I want +16 jewels for my new accessories, because my current ones were statted from around a year ago. Some of them still have hero stats I think. And because of that, it instantly makes me an endgamer that upgrads gear every patch?

Quoted from "Beren"

Quoted from "kakita01"

Well yea if your only purchasing the geisha for the plusses, but if you are wanting charges, then it is not all that horrible(40 charges plus an extra IS item, hopefully they will have ruby bonuses ( doubtful ) but hoping.

They will have a ruby bonus of 16 per

Thank you very much for the info, this rocks glad to see the ruby bonus being with items on sale again, same as before the amount should/is reduced to reflect the sale/reduced price.

normal charges are 50 for 40diamonds I think ( maybe 45 ) w/20 Rubies, so 10 less charges 5 or 10 less diamonds, and 4 less rubies, but a nice extra for purchasing charges...I will get one of four items and being broken down into different gear slots is nice, now if I am trying to plus armor ( which I am ) I will just purchase the armor packs and if I get the plussing jewel then great if not still got my charges and another IS item( which are all good items for free basically ). I know totally different perspective if your only buying for plussing gems then your cost to plus to 16 will be almost 4 times as expensive than being able to just buy the gems flat out usually in 5 packs.

Not really much to be upset about unless you only need plussing gems, then yea not the item you will purchase, but for all of those that do need charges it is a decent weekend offer to me.

Quoted from "ruisen2000"

This is just annoying, period. Why the @#@#$$ gashas again, seriously.

I feel kinda tempted to make threads spamming "We don't want Gashas", "We don't want packages" and "sell those @#$$% items individually" until they get the memo.

This would be a Very Bad Idea. But you already knew that.

Buy the Gashas or don't. The choice is yours.

Since Gameforge hast ONLY sold the newer gems in gotchas twice now, it done twould seemer ta me that we be goin in reverse o what the players done been askin fer, namely, a price reduction. We hast been at our current lvl cap fer round 3 months now, an only twice haver the +16s been on sale. Gameforge tis truly caterin towards those who be willin ter spend way more than a person ought fer a game. Not only be the items rare fer sale, but there still tis only a CHANCE ter get one o those items, which still hast a very high chance o failure as well. In the past me hast stood silent concernin game costs, but seein these cash grabs by Gameforge bein repeated only giveth me one conclusion. That conclusion be this: Follow the GM advice. Don't buy their overpriced, expensive, greedy, grubby items.

Interestingly, you managed to misrepresent what I said, Lemon.

And you're incorrect. There has been at least one non-gasha sale of the Starsplinter gems in recent months. Perhaps not as many as people would like, but there is is.

I would also like to remind you, and others, who make the false representation these sales are "cash grabs", that you are being rather less than truthful.

In the first place, whenever you, or anyone else, buys diamonds from Gameforge, it's your decision to do so, and at whatever bonus amount (or not), and package size you choose. There is no "cash grab" involved.

In the second place, and remembering that Gameforge has already received your payment, it is once again your choice to participate in IS sales or Happy Hours. Or, for that matter, non-sale purchases of IS products which you decide you need to have. Nobody is forcing you to participate.

Nobody forces you to spend your RL money on diamonds. Nobody forces you to use those diamonds to buy items from the IS, sale or no sale.

I don't mind people discussing IS sales, offers, Happy Hours, or even item pricing. What I do mind are the half-truths and bald-faced untruths that people utter about them on the forums.

As I and others have said, if you don't like the sale, don't participate. If you don't like the prices, don't buy. The choices are yours and yours alone.

Well i do agree with Kalvan with his post, jewels were on sale before. It is your choice to buy them gashas or not, your choice to buy diamonds. Well at least buying diamonds from another person, since a lot of people not happy about the sale are the elitist.

I will purchase diamonds, i will buy this sale for the charges, not the jewels. I will sit on my diamonds until a sale of what i need comes up, cough cough puris ;-) lots of puris!!! lol

You can hate the sale, i can hate the sale but in the end it'S all about choice, the blue pill or the red pill, it is your choice ;-)

Of course Gameforge is here to make money, who are you kidding guys and gals, loll, no money, no game. But we got pretty decent sales in the last month, improving all the time. Not perfect and not what you want but still better than what we used to get.

So try to enjoy yourselves and use a little bit of that holidays spirit, leave the anger outside ;-)

OH OH OH Ziddy Claus will come to Reni!!!! OH OH OH!!!!

I actually don't remember a sale on the newer gems. Maybe I missed it. I remember a sale on the old gems in the last few months with everybody upset about why it wasn't the new gems. I remember it took a little while for the gems to be placed in IS and people were little bit relieved that they didn't raise the prices. I only remember the 2 gasha sales. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. And I don't think that saying this sale is a cash grab is a misrepresentation. I agree with Sertet on this one. But if there was a sale of the new gems with +16s included, then I would change my opinion somewhat.

The last time +16 jewels were sold in Jewels of Faith

However these were level 80 cap jewels when the cap was already 82 for a couple weeks. Note Jewel of Faith. Not Starsplinter

In fact, I just went through all the available archives of sales and only found one occurrence of "Starsplinter" and its the same sale we have now, so no., we did not have any sales of the +16 jewels as a standalone sale. Wasn't looking for sales of the 1-6 and 7-12 but I don't recall seeing those either unless it was in a happy hour.

Quoted from "Kalvan"

Quoted from "ruisen2000"

This is just annoying, period. Why the @#@#$$ gashas again, seriously.

I feel kinda tempted to make threads spamming "We don't want Gashas", "We don't want packages" and "sell those @#$$% items individually" until they get the memo.

This would be a Very Bad Idea. But you already knew that.

Buy the Gashas or don't. The choice is yours.

Of course I won't actually do that lol. But certainly feel tempted

use 40 charges to make t8
sell t8 to recover diamonds
repeat

Kalvin, yer incorrect. They no hast sold us the lvl 81+ jewels outside o gashas. An they only done solded em once afore, gain, in gashas. So, me tisnt' lying at all. By sellin these gems ONLY in gashas, they hast increasered the cost o the game. No half-truth nor lies here at all. As fer the idear o it bein a cash grab, tis what it is. Only those who MUST be endgame, ubber geared twill be buyin these gotchas. Me can say that cause Gameforge no hast sold the gems outside the gotchas. This game is now more expensive. Do the math, twill end up more costly now than twas afore the lvl cap raise. An yer no tis the only Gameforge employee (or volunteer, in yer case) who hast said afore, iffn we no liketh it, no buy. Me doth choose in this case ter no buy, but me also am tryin ter let Gameforge know 1) that me tis holdin onter me cash, an 2) why me tis holdin onter me cash. As fer cash an diamonds comparison, brought about by yer, me never said such things. I doth understand that when I buy diamonds, Gameforge already hast me cash. Read this: I have other cash, not yet turned inter diamonds, an Gameforge tisn't gettin it fer this gotcha sale.

Quoted from "bleedingblak"

Bought 5.

[Charges x5 (x4)] x5
Big Angel Sigh x3
Daily Repeat Ticket
One accessory +16 jewel.

One.

I'm livid

Let me see. The gashas are "get guaranteed item" and "a chance that you will get one other item". All 5 gashas gave you the other item, so every single roll on a chance was a win. Congratulation. You rolled 5 times, you won 5 times.

One word fer yer BB. Sucker.

Quoted from "Kalvan"

As I and others have said, if you don't like the sale, don't participate. If you don't like the prices, don't buy. The choices are yours and yours alone.

good answer, why me, and probably and truthfully many others are not willing to spend and buy anymore from gameforge...

gameforge has ask us what we want, what we like to have, many responded over and over...

sure rom is a game, if they give us everything we want or need, then they will be getting less and less from us when we already have..

but since they dont really want to sale items that we or maybe just me that want to buy, then there is no chance for me or some or many who will not buy...

but yea, i am not a gambling type of person , and if i did i wouldnt want to gamble on gasha that gives a slim chance to get jewels that will also give a slim chance to succeed

no mas, no mas, never more

Quoted from "sfvictor"

use 40 charges to make t8
sell t8 to recover diamonds
repeat

If only there are diamond sellers...

Quoted from "bleedingblak"

Sorry, I forgot I wasn't being blatantly obvious.

I'm not livid that I got my promised items, I am livid because we haven't had jewels to upgrade our level 82 equipment. Since new content has came out, all upgrades on gear above level 82 have been put on halt. Why release new content if you cannot upgrade to it.

I am livid at gameforge at this point for being so ignorant to the fact that plus sixteen jewels are something that are needed to use the new content's gear. That is why I am livid.

I agree that we need those jewels to upgrade and I am also sitting on item that I can't use because at +12 is downgrade from my current +16. Nonetheless when you put the comment at the end of winning series of rolls, it is natural to assume that the comment is related to the rolls, no? Especially in context of a weekend sale thread. Especially since so many people are posting same flawed reasoning that is suspected here.

I am happy that was not the case with you, since your history of posts shows someone considerably clued in; so it would be disappointing if this message broke that streak. I am glad that was not the case.

Now, back on topic... There are constant attempts to address and tweak the balance of the game. Lion share is by RW, since GF can't change the software. All that GF can change is which items go on sale. Recons are obvious example where there is attempt to suppress overuse. High tier runes were not available at all for a long time; they put them in on a special once a season sale, at relatively high price. This is pretty clearly example of attempting to tweak the balance by GF.

Who is to say the lack of straight +16 jewel sale is not the same? Look at how so many people are arguing that +20 are bad and would be damaging to game. Why would one not make same argument about +16? Just because they were available and were common is not a good reason.

Quoted from "vfwiffo"

Who is to say the lack of straight +16 jewel sale is not the same? Look at how so many people are arguing that +20 are bad and would be damaging to game. Why would one not make same argument about +16? Just because they were available and were common is not a good reason.

this is honestly what i hope GF is doing...bring back +12 as the norm, and the game will be made much more affordable. if GF decided to never sell +16 for lvl 81+, then +12 would become the norm for endgame, and thus, endgame would become cheaper...

yeah, for all those who complain that lvl 85 +12 gear is worse than lvl 80 +16 gear: guess what, u don't need to regear!

with time, +16 will fade out, and really just become relics as hand-me-downs and wall trophies...just like moa's....