Runes of Magic US / AU

how about a mem/shell to PoM conversion that u can do once per length of time...

I don't like the idea of trading runes. That Defence III trade or what ever it was last time was bs, what better way to reward botters.... Now if it was something like an NPC that will take 3k mems and give you 1 or 2 poms, im all for it. Shells can only stack to 1000 and these days that's just over 4 days worth of mini's...mems though can be farmed at almost any level. (though the harder the instance the quicker it is)

Though would be easy to exploit that too I guess....just take 2 or 3 alt characters with you that loot the boss for extra mems ^.^

Me doth like the idear o tradin in more o these runes that do be fillin up me bags. Mem tradin twould be nice as well. NOT EOJs tho, since there do be that un-fixered exploit.

Best way to do PoMs is to have the last boss of Easy & Normal mode as well as all bosses of Hard mode have a chance to drop PoMs.

EDIT: ONLY FOR THE CURRENT HIGHEST LEVEL INSTANCES <-- Proof of Myth? newest instance? that kinda thing.

ie...

1. Easy mode last boss has 2% chance of dropping 1-2 PoMs
2. Normal mode last boss has 5% chance of dropping 1-6 PoMs
3. Hard mode 1st boss has 2% chance of dropping 1 PoM
4. Each consecutive HM boss up to the last boss has +3% chance of dropping 1 PoM
5. Last Boss has 50% of dropping 1-6 PoMs

I wouldn't recommend Mem trade for PoMs tho... I'd recommend Mems gear/stats be modified to have Easy/Normal/Hard mode "level" gear

1. Easy mode equivalent gear w/ Easy mode stats = current cost of Mems
2. Normal mode equivalent gear w/ Normal mode stats = current cost of Mems x 2
3. Hard mode equivalent gear w/ Hard mode stats & 5% chance of an orange = current cost of Mems x 5

quick example costs: 1000 mems for lvl 85 easy mode gear, 2000 mems for lvl 85 normal mode gear, 5000 mems for lvl 85 hm gear

WAIT! Mems max out @ 3000!!!! Well, that artificial limit was put in when Dalanis events could be afk'd and people were storing upwards of 10k mems. We don't have things like that anymore, so remove the 3k restriction.

agreed with ycavan...

Oh yes Cavan go ahead with percentage, LMAO!!! don't you remember the random factor of ROM?? you would have a 1% of the 10% of the 85% of the 3% - 50 of the boss to get it to drop something, so ya, no tyvm. loll Randomness in ROM is bad, look at mem pulls and shell pulls, very bad idea.

Quoted from "zidlef"

Oh yes Cavan go ahead with percentage, LMAO!!! don't you remember the random factor of ROM?? you would have a 1% of the 10% of the 85% of the 3% - 50 of the boss to get it to drop something, so ya, no tyvm. loll Randomness in ROM is bad, look at mem pulls and shell pulls, very bad idea.

a tiny "chance" at something is better than none at all...

I like the runes for PoM as well. I don't like ycavin's suggestion though.

"Best way to do PoMs is to have the last boss of Easy & Normal mode as well as all bosses of Hard mode have a chance to drop PoMs.

EDIT: ONLY FOR THE CURRENT HIGHEST LEVEL INSTANCES <-- Proof of Myth? newest instance? that kinda thing.

So what I read you saying is only the endgame guilds should get PoMs?

Quoted from "Drakkarsdad"

I like the runes for PoM as well. I don't like ycavin's suggestion though.

"Best way to do PoMs is to have the last boss of Easy & Normal mode as well as all bosses of Hard mode have a chance to drop PoMs.

EDIT: ONLY FOR THE CURRENT HIGHEST LEVEL INSTANCES <-- Proof of Myth? newest instance? that kinda thing.

So what I read you saying is only the endgame guilds should get PoMs?

He included easy mode too. Honestly, there should be no reason that a midgame guild can't even do easy mode... if they can't, it really has nothing to do with their gear...

Quoted from "Drakkarsdad"

So what I read you saying is only the endgame guilds should get PoMs?

isn't that how it is already?

also, in his suggestion, he noted that HM gear can be bought with mems, which any lvl player can farm....

so essentially endgame will not have a monopoly on HM gear, but will still control PoM's, excluding lower lvl/geared guilds that farm the WB's...

i honestly don't see the issue with this, as instead of endgame having a monopoly on both PoM and HM gear, they only control the PoM...and even then, any guild running easymode still has a chance at PoM...the only alteration i would make is make PoM drop like mems, where every1 in party gets however many the boss drops, though this can be heavily exploited on WB's, but i think for instances, where 6 man is max, and it highest, so no too easily soloable, it would work fine...

If it was dropped per party member like mems, u would get people just comming in on 5 alts in easy mode and just farming it all day, I know I would. You could make it so that you would have to be the level of the instance for them to drop, even then I know people with multiple maxed toons.


And the mems for gear thing... whats the point of running hardmode then? Spend hours in an instance dieing a bunch of times (not so much now) to get a chance to drop od, or spend hours just farming mems carrying a few alts with u in dod and probably have a better chance getting the same gear... (with my luck ill prolly be pulling od all day)

The point of my suggestion was to not have a "one time" event that you turn in stuff for PoMs. At the end of the day, it's not really helping anyone to have things like that. OTOH, having a CHANCE to get them in the latest instance ( whether it be Easy, Normal or Hard Mode ) gives people incentive to shoot for the newest instance.

I'm still iffy about giving everyone in the party mems... mebbe last boss Normal & all bosses HM after the 1st boss. Too easy to exploit otherwise. Basically, I wanted the last boss in Normal to drop 1-6 PoMs so there is a chance everyone would get them in the party & give people reasons to run Normal mode.

I'm not trying to be elitist sounding when I suggested that this ONLY be implemented in the newest instance, but as we progress, those older instances are easier & easier and we end up w/ the problem we have now, where solo farming mems is cake for a lot of people. GF/RW then nerfed the mem drops & I don't want that to happen to PoMs. They ARE the Proof of Myths, so they're valuable. Maybe I'm weird that I think it helps the storyline that they can only be found in the newest instance.

Mem for Gear thing? Well, that started waaaaay back when Dalanis was introduced. ;) Seriously, you wanna rack up 5k mems to get HM equivalent gear ( obviously the instance stuff will still be better.. set bonuses.. set skills? etc.. ) w/ the chance to get good HM stats? It's your time & effort. After you get into the groove and find a group that instances w/ you, you might not put much effort into getting that 5k; but it gives players options & something to do.

tbh 5 mems per minute ( average run of RT Normal all bosses is 71 mems and takes around 12-13 minutes ) = 1000 minutes = 16.67 hours of farming for 1 piece of HM equivalent gear... it's not ideal, but it gives people something to do.

ooo hard more EQUIVALENT gear, i midread there... yeah sounds good to me

and thats some slow mem farming lol, i think back during 75 cap, i could do dod in 4-5 mins?

i never really had in interest in poms, other than when they first came out trying to get the 3pc belt, pants, shoulders. Ever since then, i have never actively gone out of my way to get poms. I think in Osha, the guilds/groups that are doing world bosses right now, are the ones not able to do beth hard. idk, i hate poms, i think everyone that knows me knows that i hate poms. i think people think of poms as like a god send, and that it is a must to achieve endgame. it really isnt, but w.e, my opinion.

Imo, the main problem is that there's too much "You farm this boring thing for several hours a day to get geared" in RoM. Games should be fun. It should be "you run this instance, have fun, AND get rewarded."

I don't think that we should be able to buy hardmode instance gear from vendors, that would be just wrong. What is the point of running hardmode if you can get the gear with ingame currency? (beep)!!! ya endgamers sell the gear at a premium, agreed but heck they ran the damn instance. I bought my Tatha's set from endgamers, got a fair deal for it. People have to stop being lazy and learn the strat, do their quests and complete said instances. Ya also learn to play your toon, gear up and die trying ;-)

Make that gear available with mems and people will be lazy (beep) and kill the game. Having a POM for rune event is the best thing they ever did for the game, my mage still has his 72 POM gear and not even worth for me to upgrade to Hoson since the improvement isn't that big of an improvement. Ya some engamers will get all mad cause you get them easily, well you still need to gather the runes and whatever else they ask for it, I think i haven't seen so many people in game on that weekend ever lol. It was fun, fair and available to all. BTW 5 POM's for killing a world boss is way too low, should have stayed at 15 ;-)

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We have great GM's now, staff that responds to tickets, that TALK to us etc Gameforge is always improving at least ;-)

This game was made to play it, learn it, die in it and have FUN!!!

Edit : Removed section about private server.... yet again.... Continuing to discuss private servers will result in entire posts being removed in the future, just a heads up. Please avoid discussing private servers on our RoM forums, Thank you ~Majik

Quoted from "zidlef"

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We have great GM's now, staff that responds to tickets, that TALK to us etc Gameforge is always improving at least ;-)

When RoM has server issues we wait 1 week for them to even be acknowledged then another week for them to be fixed half arsedly then screw up again a week later.

Cause GF cares soooo much about their users right? Bahaha. How delusional.

Anyway, +1 to PoM event. I know i've got an alt somewhere that has about 30 stacks of every rune. Might get me to log in for more than 5 minutes. At this rate world bosses are useless as fack with only 5 PoM's per kill it's not worth it when gear costs 6+

Edit : Removed portion of Quote from Zidlef's post regarding private servers. ~Majik

My dear Borella i should point you to http://board.us.runesofmagic.gameforge.c…x.php?page=Team i count 6 gms there.

Huh. I stand corrected. Shows how much I log on these days, thought it was still only Saito.

Borella, i know you are a kid and you need the attention, it's all good, i have 2 sons about your age, they do the same thing. But you are apparently not logging ingame much anymore, all you do is complain and blablabla, why don't you log and help people on Reni? are they too much below your grandeur? I really think you are one of the best priest on Reni, but you suffer from the same disease that a lot of endgamers suffer from : I'm too good for you, just bad attitude. Luckely we have a lot who don't suffer from it and help out the server and people, tyvm to them.

(removed due to excessive caps) BTW Moonlight linked you something, if you log in more often you might know about this.

Also i doubt that the new GM's have the same rights in doing stuff ingame, as we have seen during Frogster, those said GM'S were in endgame guilds only and were giving stuff in stupid quantities to their buddies. It's all about honesty, professionalism and being just and righteous, which the old GM's didn't have much.

This team communicates, help, direct you to links that helps out and respond to the tickets we send. We can report botters, hackers, dupers and they don't wait 6 months to get it done.

Send one ticket for a borked quest, poof a few hours later responded to drop the quest and they would auto-complete it, during Frogster all you got was : We cannot give you an unfair advantage towards other players.