Runes of Magic US / AU

Yes. Yes. Yes. YESYESYESYESYES. Yes.

Although they won't do it cause it would probably cut into their daily quest ticket profits :/

New FoF for 500 dias, retains all levels and TP. Yes. Yes.

When choosing a class, the NPC's ingame warn you to choose carefully. If you later decide you don't like what you chose, you have 2 options:
- make a new character
- delete an existing class

The FoF is there to allow you the convenience of having to re-level only one class.

Unless you decide to delete another...

either that or unlock all the quests that were completed by whatever class was deleted...

As much as I would like to see this, I can see it being abused.

Example: You are a Champ/Rogue/Warlock, you enter siege and find out the other side has some OP people, you leave siege, buy a FOF and instantly become a Champ/Mage/Warlock, re-enter siege and proceed to use the OP aoe skill they have (don't remember the name).

Example: You enter siege as a Wd/War/Scout, you need healing, so you leave, drop Warrior and re-enter with a Druid/Wd/S.

I know people are going to say, FOF is too expensive for this, but we all know there will be people that do it. There has to be some kind of penalty for dropping a class and the loss of levels is that penalty. With it, everyone could EASILY buy a handful of FOF and instantly become whatever combo they wanted on a moments notice. The idea is good for players in theory, but we all know once it starts being abused, it won't stop and will only then lead to QQ about how it needs to be removed.

Personally I like the idea (there are some combos I'd like to try), but it will never be implemented for a hundred different reasons we can all come up with and honestly shouldn't be.

Quoted from "Ziav"

As much as I would like to see this, I can see it being abused.

(snip)

Personally I like the idea (there are some combos I'd like to try), but it will never be implemented for a hundred different reasons we can all come up with and honestly shouldn't be.

Meet halfway? Right now there is nothing retained. Getting to top after losing that much XP is very hard. You are discussing how one can adjust on the fly, which implies full retention. How about imposing a penalty, substantial enough to prevent people from doing it all the time, yet not as crippling as it is now with 100% loss?

I am more worried about people jumping on every FOTM that comes along. I don't want repeat of scouts or nothing, or P/S fiasco. So, letting people retain some XP so they can switch from a class combo they don't like or one that is nerfed; yet not so much that they can do it all the time - that makes sense to me.

Quoted from "Cike"

either that or unlock all the quests that were completed by whatever class was deleted...

That would be the best. Every time a Fruit of Forgetting is used, reset all the quests (including dailies) in Coast of Opportunity and Xaviera. I would even pay an additional bit of diamonds to get that.

The other way just seems like it would lead to WAY too much abuse.

Quoted from "vfwiffo"

Quoted from "Ziav"

As much as I would like to see this, I can see it being abused.

(snip)

Personally I like the idea (there are some combos I'd like to try), but it will never be implemented for a hundred different reasons we can all come up with and honestly shouldn't be.

Meet halfway? Right now there is nothing retained. Getting to top after losing that much XP is very hard. You are discussing how one can adjust on the fly, which implies full retention. How about imposing a penalty, substantial enough to prevent people from doing it all the time, yet not as crippling as it is now with 100% loss?

I am more worried about people jumping on every FOTM that comes along. I don't want repeat of scouts or nothing, or P/S fiasco. So, letting people retain some XP so they can switch from a class combo they don't like or one that is nerfed; yet not so much that they can do it all the time - that makes sense to me.

I am more than willing to concede something, provided like you said, the penalty is stiff enough to keep people from swapping at will. I'm not quite sure right now what we could come up with that would make it fair to everyone.

Maybe something like for each level you lost you get a xp% increase on kills? Or maybe even quest turn ins? At level 82 that would equate to 82% bonus xp from turning in quests. This would have to be controlled somehow though, maybe each time you leveled you lost a little % of that bonus. I think 82% at level 82 would be way to high, but 82% at level 1 wouldn't really do any good either. How about a temp buff, maybe 2-3 hours each day that would give the % on turn ins only, going away once you hit the level of the class dropped.

Example:

If you are 82/50 and drop the 50, you would become 82/1 with a 3 hour buff that granted 50% bonus xp on turn ins. Each level gained would reduce the bonus % by 1 percent, until you are 82/50 again, at that point the buff would no longer be available. This would give you something in return, while helping you get back to the levels you were previously without making it too overpowered.

We could go another route and combine ideas with Cike. Let the FOF reopen the zones up to the level of the dropped class, but also giving a 1 hour 25% bonus xp turn in on quests.

Perhaps it's time to package the Fruit of Forgetting with this item at a slightly higher price -- 399 diamonds?

Since we have a talent point reset stone, why not an experience point reset stone?

I agree with inferiority here that would make this idea perfect...I disagree with ziav no one in their right mind is gonna blow 299 Dias to change class in sw everyday bs. If gf is so concerned than make fof 500 Dias like borella said and still let you keep all the xp and tp for a new class that price is high enough to prevent the vast majority from attempting to do as Zouave suggested. Or they could just give us a 4 the class already but only of its gonna come with an alternate zone to get it to lvl 70 at a minimum

What you need is for people stopping going for the flavor of the month class. Learn to play your class, max out your TP and have fun with it. Want to go for the flavor of the month, well start from scratch and level it, you won't run out of quest that way, oh wait, true, i want it now!!!!! well tough luck not happening.

You want to change with a FoF, ok , 1000 diamonds, i shot deal on an account, voila.

As per Yrcanos said, it says : choose wisely not impulsively

Other things need to be adressed in the game than flavor of the month switching, no tyvm.

Quoted from "zidlef"

Want to go for the flavor of the month, well start from scratch and level it, you won't run out of quest that way, oh wait, true, i want it now!!!!! well tough luck not happening.

Yes, you will. It is impossible to get even both classes to cap without daily resets unless you spend months doing dailies, let alone all three.

You won't if you do dailies every day, for 365 days times 4 years you will be good for it, but as i said : I WANT IT NOW !!! need i say more?

Oh also reset your password once a month and get a free daily reset tickets, well for those that have the original info of their accounts. So 4 years times 12 months gets you 48 daily reset tickets, YEAH!!! per account

Plus doing the event and you might also get reset tickets, XP/TP orbs and siege also gives you said rewards, P-tokens can get you DRT's also.

Plenty of ways to obtain them, just gotta put the effort in it, but too many are lazy and think it is a waist of time.

Awesome idea.

This would allow players to have more variety/fun without having to spend arms and legs levelling a new toon/pet/housemaids unbinding gear and so on, just to test something that looks interesting or play something different.

Anyone against this needs to get their head checked.

There are both some great pros and cons in this thread, i would like to suggest something myself as well if i may...

My Idea
-- Upon using a FoF, the user will be able to keep all current xp/tp they have on the class they are forgetting, can only be used 1 time every 3-6 months... (prevents users from jumping to each FOTM class combo and also from reassigning new classes in between sieges, instance runs, and other content in the game where a certain class combo is more beneficial)
--The price would need to be set based on the level of the class being reset, there should be a different FoF for every 10-20 levels each with a different price, that way a low level character wont have to pay the same amount as a high level character.

Well 1 time evey 3 to 6 months is exactly when you get the new flavor of the month, no tyvm, i think it should be one time deal per account. We all saw what happened with siege and guild hoping, no need need for class hoping.

i could live with 1 time permanently or even 1 time per year

what's wrong with guild hopping or class hopping zid?

Well guild hopping, let'S see, go throught all siege titles in no time, going to guilds with 100 siege war points and wrecking up and coming players and then, them leaving after being disgusted by morons who just do it for their epeen. Most players can't play their class or learn to play them, just wants the flavor of the week, so as to why all rogues went mage, i hope they nerf the crap out of Rogue mage and make scouts what they should be, see them QQ about not having enough TP to level it once they retake it lol.