Runes of Magic US / AU

rly thats odd we just got two brand new players a few months ago and thanx to pom event and help from friends... we have one rogue with almost 110k pa ub, and a healer that has 225k hp ub, both run endgame daily everyday now and havent spent a single dime on the game not one. Amazing what can happen when you have friends that are helpful, and great events from GF obviously helped out huge.
But they couldve gotten same gear and same stats without event, wouldve just taken extremely longer ( which is the point of an MMO),
as we dragged them thru instance after instance with us.
Does artemis have helpful guilds over there? XD

Quoted from "FarmerTom"

rly thats odd we just got two brand new players a few months ago and thanx to pom event and help from friends... we have one rogue with almost 110k pa ub, and a healer that has 225k hp ub, both run endgame daily everyday now and havent spent a single dime on the game not one. Amazing what can happen when you have friends that are helpful, and great events from GF obviously helped out huge.
But they couldve gotten same gear and same stats without event, wouldve just taken extremely longer ( which is the point of an MMO),
as we dragged them thru instance after instance with us.
Does artemis have helpful guilds over there? XD

Anyone can be endgame when everything is given to them. Also, rogue and healer. OP class and easiest/cheapest class in the game to gear. Not really that impressive.

Its been asked for repeatedly, cheaper abl's for lower level gear. Maybe packs of puries you can buy for less when your account is only so old etc



They really need to do this, it is way to expensive for new players to get to the point where other players will want to run instances with them.

NO. Not cheaper ABL's for lower level gear, get rid of the bond on lower level gear, that is what needs to happen.

or maybe if bind lifters worked to unbind on lower level gear. Even if it was just level 55 an below would work. But would prefer 62 and below atm(level 85 current cap)

make all lvl 59 or lower gear BoE...

or whatever level you want.

allow me to say 2 opposite things

1/ GF or runewalker or Rom, will NOT , NEVER, NO , unbind purple gear, whatever the level is, will always be " bound on pick up"

2/ yea , please make purple gear level 60 and below " bind on equip " , and remove teh ABL, a simple bind lifter shd be waaaaayyyyyy more enough to unbind a " never used bound on pick up "

Cerb, being in an endgame guild isn't an accurate picture for all new players. Not every guild can drag new members through endgame instances to get them best gear/stats to start with and sell for enough gold to buy all the diamonds they need. Most people would have to start with shell gear with XII/shell stats, which takes a long time given how often you get crap stats on shells.



And of course, not everyone starts with the best PoM event in RoM's history happening at the same time.

If GF would allow changing gear to be BOE, it's gonna be on lvl 50 and under.

Lvl 55 is where Item-Set Skills begin.

& tbh, it wouldn't be a bad change. People would gladly play like that... that would be the ultimate f2p to bring in ppl. Up to lvl 50 w/ very little cost involved since I remember that we cleared HoTO w/ green statted not-so-great gear @ lvl 50. lol :)) ( with quite a few deaths even when everyone knew the strats ).

to add to my buddy Rui...

Not only are most guilds not able to take characters through to get gear... But in most cases the guilds that CAN finish it aren't recruiting people that need the gear. In a lot of cases by the time you are accepted into most of these "elite" guilds... you have already had to gear yourself up... thus eliminating the need for the gear... that you are now running to get.


MOst end game guilds will not drag a lesser geared player through an instance just to let them get gear to compete. Surely they wont take quest geared players... and run them for endgame gear... PFFFT are you NUTS? you have to be to think that most end game guilds would do this. Heck I know a certain OP guild on EDITED TO REMOVE SERVER (you al know who they are) wont even take their members alts through Belathis easy for the quest!!! let alone get gear!!! These are the same ones that wont accept ... pretty much any member without mostly orange stats.

it is pathetic to think that most of these top guilds use their "we can burn it with only x number of players" aim at instances then use the extra spots to help their OWN lesser geared players... let alone the good of the server. Nope.. there is money to be made of the suffering of their "peasants"...


yes this is a little extreme of a post but I hope it got the point across. The people being recruited into the guilds that can get the gear... are the players that don't need the gear... so this doesn't help the average player at all. When was the last time GUILD NAME REMOVED recruited a new/casual player.... umm never?... let alone then help them gear.


Edit to add:

Which lets make sure to add the OP is IN GUILD NAME REMOVED!!! REALLY GUILD NAME REMOVED MAKING THIS TYPE OF POST? Why don't you convince YOUR guild to start doing more... HRM???? Saw Mr Joshua in GUILD NAME REMOVED running around. Really?? GUILD NAME REMOVED are making posts about how things need to get better? While most of their members will fleece the general public and not help someone if their life depended on it? Really Hypocrite. The game could be cheaper if YOUR guild ran people through to help them gear up. The game could be cheaper if YOUR guild didn't squeeze every gold coin outta newer players to make sure they can stay F2Win.... Really ... just I cant even explain how disgusted I am to realize that you are a GUILD NAME REMOVED and stand on a soap box, while being in a guild that is doing everything they can against what you are soap boxing.

If you TRUELY feel the way you are talking you should refuse to be in such a guild... but you know it comes down to plain and simple greed over morals. You wanted to get a ahead, so you spent money to gear up to get in a big name guild. You want the game to be better? How about convincing YOUR guild to help newer players? Hrm? instead of using them to better themselves.

Cause you know YOU are part of the problem now... you could be part of the solution to try to convince those around you to start helping newer players. You don't need to make a post about what others should do... you should start first by looking at yourself and your ilk. What is the statement? Charity starts at home? People like Zid, Rui and Cike do all they can to help others from what I hear. They do more to help the state of the game than you or your guild. You really should be ashamed of yourself.

/rant off

Please refrain from name and shame for guilds. - Kali

Eh, he twasn't in that guild when he done started this thread. What really done bothers me bout that guild tis that lately they done hast had players quit, an so they hast takin ter poachin players from other guilds. An their players quit cause..... same ol, same ol, the game be borin (read: easy fer em) or the game be too expensive. Hypocrites be those who deride that guild, then jumper inter it first inv they get, me agrees.

Yeah Lemon, I hadn't even thought about going into that topic. I have seen them poach a buncha people... And not people that they can help, but people that will help them. They are pretty despicable if you ask me.

I'd just like to explain something that happened on palenque a while back. most of you probably know the story. we had 2 endgame guilds, GUILD NAME REMOVED. hey didn't really like each other much, and a lot of the server were not very fond of either, but GUILD NAME REMOVED was particularly discriminated against, mainly for most of the arguments people throw at GUILD NAME REMOVED(not saying they are true or anything, just what the general opinion was from the people I played with). when GUILD NAME REMOVED broke up, all their endgame players had to go somewhere. but wait, GUILD NAME REMOVED was the only other guild capable of endgame, and GUILD NAME REMOVED peeps were not fond at all of GUILD NAME REMOVED(rivalry maybe?). so a good portion of people who wanted to continue running endgame had NO CHOICE but to join GUILD NAME REMOVED. those that could not bring themselves to join ended up quitting because they played for endgame, and while they had an endgame toon, there was nobody outside GUILD NAME REMOVED they could run with, so they had less and less reasons to log on.

in the end, for all the end gamers in GUILD NAME REMOVED the only choice was to quit, or join GUILD NAME REMOVED. are we calling the people who joined GUILD NAME REMOVED sellouts? what about the people that quit? are they sellouts too for not trying to persue their playstyle? by that logic, every1 in GUILD NAME REMOVED when it broke up had 2 choices: sellout or sellout.

the fact that GUILD NAME REMOVED broke up and the people were fractured even more makes the situation even more complicated.

and what about the endgame-geared people in mid level guilds? shall we condemn them for switching to an endgame guild so they can experience endgame content that they never would have seen in their old guild? heck, most of the people I know who have done this still channel gear into their old guild, because they don't like, or care about their new "guildies", they are just in the guild for the content clearing.

point is: we can't judge people for guild choice unless we know why they joined the guild. and even then, just because some1 joined a guild doesn't mean they did it happily, or even wanted to. they might have done it out of necessity.


but then again, I don't play Artemis, so I have no idea what goes on there.

"Poaching". Rofl. You act like it's not their choice to go join GUILD NAME REMOVED. If someone wants to go join an endgame guild because their guild cannot do what they want to play the game for, that has nothing to do with the morals of the endgamer guild. If you love to do siege and your guild doesn't siege, is going to a good siege guild make that guild awful for poaching players? If you like to RP and your guild doesn't RP, does it make you a bad person to go to a RP guild? If your guild can't run endgame, you have every right to go join a guild that can meet your needs. That doesn't make GUILD NAME REMOVED or any other endgame guild evil. It's just logical.

Basically all these insults toward endgame guilds like GUILD NAME REMOVED reek of whine. You want them to run new people through endgame and give gear away and gear the entire server for free/cheap. Why? Why is that their responsibility? You're absolutely correct, we aren't going to let people leech off of us. Especially if they aren't in our guild.

Though honestly how does GUILD NAME REMOVED have anything to do with this thread? At all? The game SHOULD be cheaper. It is way too bloody expensive, that is a FACT. I don't get why you people feel the need to turn every thread into an endgame vs. non-endgame, and f2p vs. p2p argument. Ya'll need to reread Fann's thread again, because you're still not getting it.

Borella again you take something and miss the point by 100 miles.


"Basically all these insults toward endgame guilds like GUILD NAME REMOVED reek of whine. You want them to run new people through endgame and give gear away and gear the entire server for free/cheap."


NO ONE SAID THAT.

We are saying a member of said guild should then not be whining about what is better for newer players when they themselves COULD help newer players and don't. Amazes me how you miss that point by so much.

"You're absolutely correct, we aren't going to let people leech off of us. Especially if they aren't in our guild. "

No one said you should for people not in your guild, but the example I used (cause I cant say about you or your guild, but by your reaction it tells me your guild does the same thing) is a guild that DOESNT let people lesser geared... even mid geared people in. I know this cause friends of mine tried to get in and were denied cause they weren't geared "well enough".. he wasn't awesome geared, but he wasn't noob geared either. But again... that is their choice.. but if they make that choice they should then not start throwing around anything about helping new players.... cause it is in their power to help new players and they don't... so they should just keep their mouth shut.

my post had nothing to do with F2P, vs P2P, engamer vs not.. Did you see me bring any of that up? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU brought it up. I merely made a point that the OP has it in his power to help newer players and doesn't. His guild doesn't. That ALONE was my point. YOU extrapolated it more and brought up those dynamics, for I surely didn't. Fail Borella, just plain Fail.


And people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.... you derail enough threads and post off-topic things.. you are the last one to be pointing that finger. Just sayin.

Quoted from "Dkjester"

We are saying a member of said guild should then not be whining about what is better for newer players when they themselves COULD help newer players and don't. Amazes me how you miss that point by so much.

Thats the most ignorant thing ive ever heard. Why should they not complain? Why should they not be upset that others dont have it easy? They want people to have a level field, they want others to gear up and join them in end game instances, whats wrong with that? ITs like saying white people cant say "its so unfair that minorities have a shit life, i wish the powers in charge would change the rules so its fair foreveryone." Back ur shit up dk, ppl admit that the world isnt cool. You're the only one who likes to bash on endgamers who try to help everyone else.

And he is helping people. He is here, on the forums advocating that the way this game works should be easier for people to gear up, and here you are, whining like a brat saying oh you already have it easy, why do you care woe is me.

lmao. stop sucking so bad on artemis and make a guild worth joining and staying in. go run hardmode and sell the stuff yourself if you want to see everything be cheaper and easier for the server.

Quoted from "TWMXC"

lmao. stop sucking so bad on artemis and make a guild worth joining and staying in. go run hardmode and sell the stuff yourself if you want to see everything be cheaper and easier for the server.

Removed cus i shouldent post after i wake up.