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Wednesday, June 25th 2014, 1:15pm

Create an alternate path to Salo.

To move the main quest chain from Sarlo to Salo, you currently have to run the Belathis instance through the last boss. Solo players and small guilds don't stand a chance to finish the quest at the last boss, even in easy mode, and by now the folks who are statted enough to complete it have dragged so many people through, it is nigh impossible to get assistance. I, for one, am tired of dieing in there over and over again, stacking 15-20 million in death debt at the last boss.

I play RoM for the quests, not the dungeon runs. I am in a fairly small guild but consider myself to more or less be a solo player. Not any more. I am done. I love the game and I love coming in and questing. I am going to watch patch notes in the forum, and when I see a way for solo players to complete the quest chain I will be back. I know the money I spend on diamonds is not even a drop in the bucket for Gameforge, but you need to consider ALL the reasons people play.
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Wednesday, June 25th 2014, 2:25pm

I always thought salo was a sort of pork fat...

Anyway, yeah, big +1. Indeed ppl have moved on, even in a bigger guild it will take a few days before there is a group willing to do BF easy _again_ ("no, please, not BF easy _again_..."). And ppl who don't have friends to ask have little chance to find anyone willing in the world chat/pug.

By the way - it's not a problem for getting to the Fjord imho, finding someone who will open a portal for you will be 1000 times easier than getting a pt for BF easy: you mark the snoop, done. But it _is_ the main quest line: you do need the xp/tp, and if you are undergeared you may need the quest rewards!

It has been discussed so many times (here's an example, but there are several other threads on the same subject). Preferably - please, please, please change the quest structure so that BF easy was not needed (just mark the quest as "finished" immediately after it's acquired seems the easiest?). Alternatively - you could add there some useful reward (10 PoMs from Maderoth easy IF there is a toon in pt with the Morrok quest?) to encourage pts - it would be a more complex solution though.



PS: By the way - if you are really undergeared, you could join a pt just before the last boss: you won't complete the other side quests but surviving the Maderoth fight should be much easier than a few earlier bosses, and finding pt might be a tad easier if they can run through the instance faster.
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Wednesday, June 25th 2014, 4:16pm

yeah I mean even if they made it that you had to get an item before you fight Maderoth, that would still require an instance, but not the last boss which is the biggest problem in there.

Or make it not "killing Maderoth", but getting an item behind him. Like the quest to loot that chest. Or even you have to complete all the other instance quests to complete the main quest line.

We are.. not what I consider normal for a small guild.... and it took us a Long time to clear it. Even longer to devise a way that we could run our alts through it. We ran some friends through it also.

Even though we are done with it, I still think that it needs to be changed.

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Wednesday, June 25th 2014, 5:47pm

i know everyone gonna hate but i enjoy they make you do an instance for once to keep going with questline. Too much qq about it personally, ive helped a bunch get thru there, and dont mind it really.
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Wednesday, June 25th 2014, 8:28pm

And idk about on the other servers but on reni there's normaly people willing to help -10 to this its not that hard and as said you dont have to do it to get to 85 or 87 as of tomorrow its not hard stop complaining 1 healer 1 tank and 2 dps and its easy they already got rid of hardmode mobs its easy now


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Wednesday, June 25th 2014, 8:45pm

Simple agreement with the OP.

As for the supporters of the quest line going through this instance, my suggestion is that they become the dedicated runners through of all characters who want to finish this quest to continue the quest line. At all times, no questions asked, any and all who support this and are on at the time someone requests this, must drop everything and run said character through, regardless of everything, including personal animosity.

Simple leveling does not need to go through instance, and as time marches on, if it does for this game, this will become even more of an annoyance. But since we now have several volunteers, in this thread and previous one, to run anybody through at all times that they are personally on, maybe that will solve it. :) :) :)

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Wednesday, June 25th 2014, 10:12pm

PS: By the way - if you are really undergeared, you could join a pt just before the last boss: you won't complete the other side quests but surviving the Maderoth fight should be much easier than a few earlier bosses, and finding pt might be a tad easier if they can run through the instance faster.

I am not necessarily UNDER geared, I am level 85 r/w 110k hp unbuffed , 56kpat, and last I looked was ranked in the top 60 on Govinda for Dex. My leather is all t6 or t7, so plenty of defense as well. I last attempted it with a group of other players some of whom were over 200k hp, and had been through to the end a couple times. Still, we ran into someone in the group, and we had no one 'fess up, who killed the yellow clone early every time. If you like spamming group wipes, that will do it.

I do like the idea of setting up so that the toon with the quest simply needs to get to the chest, maybe even while the others in the party are tanking or kiting Maderoth away. That would be easy enough, but still a challenge.

I would also like to reiterate that this is a game that at one time the game reviewers recommended for folks who prefer to spend most of their time running solo, because the quest lines could be completed in "lone wolf" mode. Now it cannot, and probably will need three or four more level caps and higher stats before anyone can seriously run it solo.
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Thursday, June 26th 2014, 6:16am

I by no means think the quest should still be in the instance. Those suggestions were "if gf/rw has a hard on for keeping it in the instance AT LEAST do this". I think really it should autocomplete like Autopsy used to.

I was just throwing out other ideas cause the 100s of other suggestions I have given on this quest has fallen on deaf ears, so I am trying something different in hopes of making it a LITTLE better.

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Thursday, June 26th 2014, 7:32am

I was just throwing out other ideas cause the 100s of other suggestions I have given on this quest has fallen on deaf ears

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@ thread: general agreement. farmertom, i totally understand that point of view. however, i don't think that alll those people that you are dragging through are having much fun, or are really enjoying that aspect of the content...

point is, while some people are fine, others aren't, but how would people feel if it was the opposite(aka no instance requirement, like normal)? would all those dungeon junkies feel shafted that main questline is not in an instance? if you LIKE the instance req. for the main quest line, then are you suggesting putting the next one there as well? and what about all the past instances, are those bad because there is no main quest line going through it?
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Thursday, June 26th 2014, 7:31pm

w/ patch, Tina will give you an item to move past.

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Thursday, June 26th 2014, 9:48pm

In-Game Event Tina brings you help!

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Thursday, June 26th 2014, 10:21pm

Re- Tina

Well, goodness, Thanks. You could not have timed it any better. As soon as I update I am IN!!!!
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Thursday, June 26th 2014, 11:02pm

Tina is still considered "just" a workaround, we still want a change of the quest but decided that another level cap raise without at least trying for a solution to this would not exactly be great. ;-)

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