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Arclnferno

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Tuesday, August 12th 2014, 5:08pm

Help War/Mage

I think its fair for all classes to do some major damage in SW but for WAr/mage that is just not the case
my main dps move is based on white attacks which requires very close range before i can even use it
and i usually get killed before i can even finish surprise attack
on top of that, most classes have immune moves that render me useless.
thats ok though
I understand that war/mage white attacks are for bosses
but can you amp out instant casts?
Lightning touch is nice and spamable but it requires too close range that war/mage just cant afford, besides i would rather normal attack then use that move
maybe something like electric bolt:
1 sec cast time
does fire damage
no cd

EDITED AFTER DISCUSSION:
instead of giving another ranged move (as mentioned above), have another buff (that cannot be in effect with lightning burn weapon) that allows the player to cast ranged dps moves with minimal cd
this eliminates unbalancing of melee and ranged nukes on one class and allows war/mage to do more in SW
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TY new patch for giving Scout/war the best elites ever! (invincible in SW!!!)
unbuffed Phy attack: 112k
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Tuesday, August 12th 2014, 5:11pm

yeah....um...no.

when u can pretty much 1 shot anything, I think it shud be slightly hard to land the hit...

plus, if u are magic build w/m, u get fireball, silence, and lightning. use them.
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Tuesday, August 12th 2014, 5:15pm

i do but i want to kill form a distance and i dont have the time to level a mage to 87
a 1sec cast move that hits like electric bolt isnot super op its reasonable
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Tuesday, August 12th 2014, 5:17pm

so you are saying "I want my warrior to play like a mage because I am don't want to level my actual mage"?
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Tuesday, August 12th 2014, 5:17pm

pretty much
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Tuesday, August 12th 2014, 5:18pm

I want my rogue to play like a scout...oh, wait...
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Tuesday, August 12th 2014, 5:21pm

rogues already get hide and throw moves that hit higher and further than scout...
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Tuesday, August 12th 2014, 5:27pm

my point exactly.

you are essentially asking for a melee nuke class to have ranged skills. I would only agree if you could only use either ranged or melee at a time(I.e. toggle between the 2 with a 30 sec CD).

honestly, it would just unbalance the class even more.

we already see what has happened to rogues.
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Tuesday, August 12th 2014, 5:31pm

ok i see your point,
say we were to use the 30 sec toggle, im assuming there would be a skill reading
"cannot be in effect with lightning burn weapon"
and also adding a 30sec to 3min cd on both lightningburn and this new skill
but what would it do? reduce fireball and thundersword cd?
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Tuesday, August 12th 2014, 5:36pm

yes, works kinda like that.

as for effect, I assume it would be adding that new flame ranged skill u were talking about.

in short, u get ranged or melee, tanky or squishy, etc, etc... having decent skills in more than 1 area simply unbalances the class(example: see rogue).

that is what I was trying to point out(which I think you understand)
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Tuesday, August 12th 2014, 5:42pm

ok! revised 1st post so viewers see it quicker
now more opinions and recommendations on the details of this new skill and then maybe it will go into effect!
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TY new patch for giving Scout/war the best elites ever! (invincible in SW!!!)
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Tuesday, August 12th 2014, 8:12pm

Um no.. As a Warrior/Mage myself we have plenty of ranged attacks.. Thundersword which hits 4 TIMES, Fireball, Lightning. If you can't kill someone with 6 procs of magical damage then you may as well just try charging and 1 shotting because your damage is likely not high enough. Use a staff if you want your instants to hit hard.

I personally prefer M/Wd over W/M in siege because I've put in the time to level it but I've played both plenty and W/M is fine as it is. Make some siege gear, stack yourself to 300k+ hp and run around with a shield and a wand and 1 shot people without taking a lot of damage.

Or level your Mage and actually play like a Mage.

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Tuesday, August 12th 2014, 8:25pm

sure thundersword kills a person. fireball + lightning takes another out but then im usually left to wait on cds or forced to charge in while the other people get closer.
this is just adding another ranged move for war/mages. surely that wont completely tip off the scales.
as you suggested, im currently working on honor gear but i really dont see the harm of another skill
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Tuesday, August 12th 2014, 8:30pm

I think its completely ridiculous and unnecessary. W/M isn't supposed to be a ranged damage dealer. The fact that you can take out a couple people with ranged skills should be more than enough. If you want ranged magical dps then level your mage. From what you are saying they may as well just give W/M flame spam because that seems to be the kind of ranged damage output you want.

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Tuesday, August 12th 2014, 8:38pm

Know what, why not flame spam? if M/WD gets a 2min cd 60% reduction flame insta cast, how is that at all fair for the other classes
and clearly someone needs to do a better job reading, I simply suggested a 1 sec cast time no cd like electric bolt.
but hey by all means electric bolt means flame spam...
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TY new patch for giving Scout/war the best elites ever! (invincible in SW!!!)
unbuffed Phy attack: 112k
Str: 9k
Dex: 23k
Stam: 19k

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Tuesday, August 12th 2014, 11:03pm

omg this thread :dash: :dash: :dash: some people are just not happy with what they have huh can someone please please pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee close this qq thread ty.

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Tuesday, August 12th 2014, 11:06pm

lets not start altering classes based on siege war.......


We saw how that went.


just /close it already. W/m doesn't need this change for PVE... we shouldn't be altering classes at all for PVP only reasons. Sorry no need for this.

It be like me going.. I think my mage needs a better way to hide all the time when moving across the siege war map... please give us all a hide.... *rolls eyes*. No if I want to sneak around, ill play a rogue. If you wanna be a class with more ranged damage then you have... roll something else. Again DONT start changing classes for pvp.

/close thread

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Tuesday, August 12th 2014, 11:35pm

Quoted from "Arclnferno"

Know what, why not flame spam? if M/WD gets a 2min cd 60% reduction flame insta cast, how is that at all fair for the other classes
and clearly someone needs to do a better job reading, I simply suggested a 1 sec cast time no cd like electric bolt.
but hey by all means electric bolt means flame spam...
It's a 3 minute cooldown and just as hard to survive from as a w/m white hit barrage. If you're gonna harp on other classes trying to make your own stronger, at least get your facts straight. Thx
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Tuesday, August 12th 2014, 11:39pm

Quoted from "Arclnferno"

Know what, why not flame spam? if M/WD gets a 2min cd 60% reduction flame insta cast, how is that at all fair for the other classes
and clearly someone needs to do a better job reading, I simply suggested a 1 sec cast time no cd like electric bolt.
but hey by all means electric bolt means flame spam...


No I read what you said fine. It's completely ridiculous to add another instant RANGED spell to Warrior/Mage for pvp. Warrior/Mage DOES NOT EQUAL Mage.

IF you want ranged magic dps... GO PLAY MAGE.

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Wednesday, August 13th 2014, 1:55am

just close the thread plz..

w/m has 3 ranged attack + 1 charge + spammable melee skill + truck-hitting white-hits

just close it..

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