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Tuesday, September 16th 2014, 8:16am

Having a larger variety of PvP stats and having PvP gear come with PvP stats

When you purchase honor gear, it would be nice if honor gear came with yellow stats that are useful for PvP, instead of a useless green stat and an XIII stat. The lv 87 honor gear could come with stats such as Stam/Def, Stam/HP, Stam/Mdef that are on par with stats dropped from level 87 instances. There could also be a larger variety of PvP stats that may be on the honor gear that are not otherwise available, stats that include dodge, parry, magic resistance, magic/physical accuracy (to counter resistances). Ex Str/Parry, Dex/Dodge, Int/Magic Resistance.

Although magic classes usually do not stack parry and dodge, while physical classes usually do not stack magic resist, the stats could be designed to offer incentives for classes to stack raw values that they otherwise do not stack (if it was deemed desirable to do so). For example, the parry on a Str/Parry would be less than the parry on an Int/Parry to help magic users to have a bit of parry so that they would not feel like statting parry is a waste since they had 0 parry to begin with.
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Tuesday, September 16th 2014, 8:42am

I like the suggestion. Especially the honor gear coming with stats which are not totally useless.

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Tuesday, September 16th 2014, 8:58am

I'm against the stats being on the honor gear because of how people get honor points, but I am not against the idea of PvP stats.
The stats would bring a high monetary value to honor points that are otherwise absent. The major things buy with them have always been guild mats and crafting materials, which are primarily a just-in-time market, and now honor gear, which no one really buys because of how easily it is to obtain 7 pieces. However, needing stats for every single piece of gear and the right stats would definitely be harder to get all of them and thus would create a higher demand than the supply could account for.
They can be so easily farmed that I feel the honor points should just be directed at crafting mats, guild mats, and siege gear, as they always have.

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Tuesday, September 16th 2014, 10:21am

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I'm against the stats being on the honor gear because of how people get honor points,

i really cannot understand what it is that u dont like in the way ppl gain honor points.

- sw system has changed. no more 6-sw-per-day. so u get a max of 1300 pts in the good case

- drill ground is not anymore buggy giving 13k pts per toon, but u just get a reasonable amount of pts based on the time u spend to do stupid drill ground minis. i do 3 minis per day on my main toon and get about 2k pts which is not that game-breaking.

- i cant get why is "fine" for ppl to make trash alts to run stupid mini games for shells and get latest stats, while u r against ppl getting good pvp stats from honor gear. farming honor pts from alts is same retarded procedure as farming shells from alts. but they both should be able to produce results in the end for the time spent.

+1 for the OP suggestion for honor gear to provide stats usable in pvp

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Tuesday, September 16th 2014, 2:37pm

great idea...

it would truly differentiate the PvP and pve stat/gear markets, which is nice...
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Tuesday, September 16th 2014, 4:40pm

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Quoted from "CharlieBananas"

I'm against the stats being on the honor gear because of how people get honor points,

i really cannot understand what it is that u dont like in the way ppl gain honor points.

- sw system has changed. no more 6-sw-per-day. so u get a max of 1300 pts in the good case

- drill ground is not anymore buggy giving 13k pts per toon, but u just get a reasonable amount of pts based on the time u spend to do stupid drill ground minis. i do 3 minis per day on my main toon and get about 2k pts which is not that game-breaking.

- i cant get why is "fine" for ppl to make trash alts to run stupid mini games for shells and get latest stats, while u r against ppl getting good pvp stats from honor gear. farming honor pts from alts is same retarded procedure as farming shells from alts. but they both should be able to produce results in the end for the time spent.

+1 for the OP suggestion for honor gear to provide stats usable in pvp

I can get half the points needed to pull a piece of gear in under 10 minutes at Drill Grounds. I'd say a good portion (3-4 minutes) of which I can look at a different window. It'd only take a level 50 alt to repeat these results. In 1 hour, theoretically if I'm logged in on multiple accounts, I could complete about one every 6 minutes after the initial 4 minutes, which equates to about 10 alts per hour after 4 minutes. Through all the characters that is about 5 stats in 1 hour.

Which is nothing like the time frame to farm shells on alts...which no one was condoning, or even mentioning, in this thread to begin with.

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Tuesday, September 16th 2014, 5:47pm

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Quoted from "CharlieBananas"

I'm against the stats being on the honor gear because of how people get honor points,

i really cannot understand what it is that u dont like in the way ppl gain honor points.

- sw system has changed. no more 6-sw-per-day. so u get a max of 1300 pts in the good case

- drill ground is not anymore buggy giving 13k pts per toon, but u just get a reasonable amount of pts based on the time u spend to do stupid drill ground minis. i do 3 minis per day on my main toon and get about 2k pts which is not that game-breaking.

- i cant get why is "fine" for ppl to make trash alts to run stupid mini games for shells and get latest stats, while u r against ppl getting good pvp stats from honor gear. farming honor pts from alts is same retarded procedure as farming shells from alts. but they both should be able to produce results in the end for the time spent.

+1 for the OP suggestion for honor gear to provide stats usable in pvp

I can get half the points needed to pull a piece of gear in under 10 minutes at Drill Grounds. I'd say a good portion (3-4 minutes) of which I can look at a different window. It'd only take a level 50 alt to repeat these results. In 1 hour, theoretically if I'm logged in on multiple accounts, I could complete about one every 6 minutes after the initial 4 minutes, which equates to about 10 alts per hour after 4 minutes. Through all the characters that is about 5 stats in 1 hour.

Which is nothing like the time frame to farm shells on alts...which no one was condoning, or even mentioning, in this thread to begin with.
The majority of the systems in the game works in a way where with tons of alts running at the same time, you can farm a crap load of any currency.
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Wednesday, September 17th 2014, 6:58pm

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I can get half the points needed to pull a piece of gear in under 10 minutes at Drill Grounds. I'd say a good portion (3-4 minutes) of which I can look at a different window. It'd only take a level 50 alt to repeat these results. In 1 hour, theoretically if I'm logged in on multiple accounts, I could complete about one every 6 minutes after the initial 4 minutes, which equates to about 10 alts per hour after 4 minutes. Through all the characters that is about 5 stats in 1 hour.

Which is nothing like the time frame to farm shells on alts...which no one was condoning, or even mentioning, in this thread to begin with.


What is half the point needed to pull a piece and how can you make it in 10 minutes? I really wonder.

I doubt much has changed since last time I played drill ground, and except an error in one of the games (getting double points iirc) I can't remember there being anything close to what you mentioned. Even if you manage to get 2K HP, that means it will take you few days to get single piece...

I like idea, but only if stats are useful for PVP, just like gear.

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Thursday, September 18th 2014, 10:13am

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I can get half the points needed to pull a piece of gear in under 10 minutes at Drill Grounds. I'd say a good portion (3-4 minutes) of which I can look at a different window.

i doubt this can be done legitimately..

if u do all drill ground games in a hgh-lvl drill building u get approx 3k points. and it doesnt take u 10mins, nor is a total of 8k pts as u imply..

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