Runes of Magic US / AU

Dont forget phirius potions

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Oh and either permanent or more frequent sales of transformation pots like Donichuka and the rock golem

Quoted from "acypcar90"

Oh and either permanent or more frequent sales of transformation pots like Donichuka and the rock golem

YES PLEASE! Why should new players or players like me who enjoy trying new classes often, have to wait for the ONE time a year that these come on sale... While veteran players or players whom stick to one toon/class are able to just stock and consume. Make them much more often, and watch the dias fly in!

Sales team: We need to make $xx this month, what have we done in the past that makes this much and where are we at on the sales rotation? Initiate copy-n-paste sales promos!

Players: Hey sales team, these sales suck! Give us what we’re asking for!!

Sales team: Look at all these guys complaining. I suppose we could change something but why bother? We have years of reports showing that someone will buy the stuff we put on sale anyway. We don’t have to change anything and we still make our sales goal. Yay us, we rule!

Players: This sucks, you’re not listening to me so you’re not getting any more of my money, I’m going f2p!

Sales team: Good luck with that. Bet you will still spend money, you’ll just lie about it to your friends and say you never spent a dime.

Players: I’m sick of you guys not listening, I’m leaving

Sales team: Ok, see ya in a couple weeks

Moral of the story: If you want change, try voting with your wallets. Friends don’t let friends buy diamonds when they aren’t on sale.

Quoted from "Tuulikki"

Sales team: We need to make $xx this month, what have we done in the past that makes this much and where are we at on the sales rotation? Initiate copy-n-paste sales promos!

Players: Hey sales team, these sales suck! Give us what we’re asking for!!

Sales team: Look at all these guys complaining. I suppose we could change something but why bother? We have years of reports showing that someone will buy the stuff we put on sale anyway. We don’t have to change anything and we still make our sales goal. Yay us, we rule!

Players: This sucks, you’re not listening to me so you’re not getting any more of my money, I’m going f2p!

Sales team: Good luck with that. Bet you will still spend money, you’ll just lie about it to your friends and say you never spent a dime.

Players: I’m sick of you guys not listening, I’m leaving

Sales team: Ok, see ya in a couple weeks

Moral of the story: If you want change, try voting with your wallets. Friends don’t let friends buy diamonds when they aren’t on sale.

THIS. THIS THIS THIS. THIS x 1 million. If you don't like what they put on sale, don't buy it. People moan and complain that they don't like the sales so they partake anyway. When you go into a store and don't like a sale (or the product) you simply don't buy it. The store looks at their figured for that sale and notices they sold only 10% of what they were expecting, so they never run the sale again.

As long as people continue to buy diamonds out of sales and buy sales that don't make sense, they'll keep putting the stuff on sale (or won't put diamonds on sale).

Quoted from "Jguy"

THIS. THIS THIS THIS. THIS x 1 million. If you don't like what they put on sale, don't buy it. People moan and complain that they don't like the sales so they partake anyway. When you go into a store and don't like a sale (or the product) you simply don't buy it. The store looks at their figured for that sale and notices they sold only 10% of what they were expecting, so they never run the sale again.

As long as people continue to buy diamonds out of sales and buy sales that don't make sense, they'll keep putting the stuff on sale (or won't put diamonds on sale).

That doesn't really change the fact that we should still have some items that only come on sale once a year, come on a little bit more often. They WOULD make more money that way. That being said, I actually have never spent a dime on this game, and I never will, because it doesn't deserve my money...
Also, Rune Disks are an example of something else that should be put on sale more often, there's still tons of players who don't have them, and it doesn't hurt the sales team one bit to put these things on the item shop, it just may require a tad bit more effort...

It would even help if they actually put the items they advertise on sale, on sale...still a little irked about the breeding slot for Sunday's happy hour that did not happen...happens to be an item I have been waiting for.

Quoted from "Auros"

It would even help if they actually put the items they advertise on sale, on sale...still a little irked about the breeding slot for Sunday's happy hour that did not happen...happens to be an item I have been waiting for.

if it was anything like the rune sale a few weekends ago, they HAD the sale, they just didnt put it in the "promotional front page" area of the item shop.

can anyone say if that wasnt the case last night? I personally never use those so i wouldnt know unfortunately

Quoted from "Thenewslash"

Quoted from "Jguy"

THIS. THIS THIS THIS. THIS x 1 million. If you don't like what they put on sale, don't buy it. People moan and complain that they don't like the sales so they partake anyway. When you go into a store and don't like a sale (or the product) you simply don't buy it. The store looks at their figured for that sale and notices they sold only 10% of what they were expecting, so they never run the sale again.

As long as people continue to buy diamonds out of sales and buy sales that don't make sense, they'll keep putting the stuff on sale (or won't put diamonds on sale).

That doesn't really change the fact that we should still have some items that only come on sale once a year, come on a little bit more often. They WOULD make more money that way. That being said, I actually have never spent a dime on this game, and I never will, because it doesn't deserve my money...
Also, Rune Disks are an example of something else that should be put on sale more often, there's still tons of players who don't have them, and it doesn't hurt the sales team one bit to put these things on the item shop, it just may require a tad bit more effort...

Many people have posted about what they feel would make the company more money but all we have is opinion based on personal observation while the publisher has years of data showing what people are actually buying. We have all seen sales like XP orbs that seem outrageously priced to many (myself included) but the very fact that those sales keep occurring means SOMEONE is buying those and in sufficient quantities that the publisher is making money otherwise they wouldn't keep having those sales. The sales team folks have a boss too and they have to explain themselves just like anyone else would if they put stuff on sale that nobody is buying.

As far as not spending money on the game, no offense but I think you're missing the point. It makes zero difference if you personally hand over RL cash for diamonds or buy diamonds from other players for in-game gold. The result is the same: Someone is spending RL money for those diamonds - there is simply no other way they come into the game legally That said, I will grant that if you are playing the game without anything purchased out of the item shop for diamonds then it doesn't apply but that is very unlikely for anyone who plays at anywhere near level cap.

Quoted from "Tuulikki"

Many people have posted about what they feel would make the company more money but all we have is opinion based on personal observation while the publisher has years of data showing what people are actually buying. We have all seen sales like XP orbs that seem outrageously priced to many (myself included) but the very fact that those sales keep occurring means SOMEONE is buying those and in sufficient quantities that the publisher is making money otherwise they wouldn't keep having those sales. The sales team folks have a boss too and they have to explain themselves just like anyone else would if they put stuff on sale that nobody is buying.

As far as not spending money on the game, no offense but I think you're missing the point. It makes zero difference if you personally hand over RL cash for diamonds or buy diamonds from other players for in-game gold. The result is the same: Someone is spending RL money for those diamonds - there is simply no other way they come into the game legally That said, I will grant that if you are playing the game without anything purchased out of the item shop for diamonds then it doesn't apply but that is very unlikely for anyone who plays at anywhere near level cap.

If they put rune disks or more transformation potions on the AH a GUARANTEE there will be a LOT of them being bought, add a dia sell to that and they'll make even more money. They 'might' have the exp orbs on sale because someone buys them, but the chance is low, 2k dias for 10m xp is quite a bit lol.

Someone is spending their RL money on the game, but it makes it less desirable to spend said money if Gameforge is not putting desired items on the Item Shop in the first place, AND the 100% dia sells every 2 months that only last for 3 days also don't bring in much income for Gameforge/Runewaker..

Quoted from "Tuulikki"

ok at all these guys complaining. I suppose we could change something but why bother? We have years of reports showing that someone will buy the stuff we put on sale anyway. We don’t have to change anything and we still make our sales goal. Yay us, we rule!

You got it all wrong....

There is no direct link between players playing game and sales team.

Players --- GM/team --- ???? --- sales team

This is just my conclusion from years spent here and from reviewing offers and items in IS most of the time I played.

I still have fun checking powerful pet growth potion in IS. Item that just does not make any sense. I mentioned some of them on different topic, but until you have players trying to deffend stuff that does not make any sense... and as long as you have 1 player willing to spend $2K-$3K on leveling single class - you will have those sales....

And yes, I agree, make puri 10 dias, on sale 5 dias - and people will spend money and dias to get them and use them a lot - witch leads to need of + stones, drills, golden hammers, as now some UD items might get stated...

Keep price high as in time when everything was T3... mid-level items are just to expensive to state and sell... mid-level population suffers...

no rune discs! why? because everyone has one! rofl. ( i like to be different, could care less if my mount is 5% less speed, only due to fact im not like everyone else.

Then again.. ask anyone... im not sure there is anyone like me.... rofl jkjk

And +1 for making puries 10 dia lol. But to be absolutely honest i spent a lot of money back in chapter 3-4 ish whenever puries were 50 dia a piece, and on sale they were 30-40 dia and rarely 25 or under lol, so im still very very happy paying 19 per atm. I know im sure ill get plenty of rage for it.

Transformation pots could be on sale more often, but i do honestly get super excited when halloween and christmas comes around for those pots, and tbh ive been waitin all year long for this lol. And yes i will probably buy hundreds to make sure they last a year till next time on sale..

But there again, thats how they make their money, we know they wont be on sale for a year, so we spend a lot more making sure we have stock.

I say we... but could be just me who knows lol.

Regardless theres my two cents for the day.

I think the puries are priced just about right, not too easy, not too hard. I don't think it is a good idea to make T10 armor the norm.

Quoted from "Auros"

I don't think it is a good idea to make T10 armor the norm.

this is my biggest fear with cheaper puries.

i tried to address it in a previous thread, but people would not hear it...

I don't think it would make it "the norm", I think it would just make more people pay money to buy them if they were 35dias for a pack of 6.

That's enough to do one piece of gear.

say we have 15 pieces of gear.

STANDARD PRICE OF PURI
15*6 = 90 puris [standard is t5 atm i believe]

90*19 = 1,710 diamonds.
(1,365 dias = 49.99)
+
(473 dias = 19.99)
=
1,838 dias = $69.98 USD




NON-SALE = $69.98 [1,365 dia pack + 473 pack] (128 dias left over)

SALE PRICE OF PURI
90*15 = 1,350 diamonds

PURI-SALE = $49.99

PURI-SALE AND DOUBLE DIAMONDS.

90 puris = 15 pieces.
90 puris = 1,350 diamonds

420 dias (210 package but 100% deal) = 9.99
946 dias (473 package but 100% deal) = 19.99

PURI-SALE WITH 100% DIAMOND BONUS = $29.98

That's about the cheapest it gets. 30 bucks to do the most crucial and vital thing to become an anything in ROM.

Still think paying for a bit more than 20$ is a better idea. More people would be t5 6 statted, more content ready players. Only gets better from there. More people statting / gearing turns into more people running. more pugs. etc.

35 dias = 6 puris
15 pieces of gear = 525 diamonds.

19.99 + 4.99 = 24.98

If there was a sale, I wouldn't decrease the price. Instead adding charges to the pack instead. 6 puris = 2 AT charges to make the t5 gear. So the sale could be just 2 added AT charges, or even 5. Maybe 10 for buying a bigger pack (bigger than 6).

Makes this game seem like a good deal over sub-based games.

I also don't understand, people will start becoming t10.

Sure. Could Happen. Who does that hurt? Who does t7'ing hurt? If the norm becomes t7 for those newer endgamers, and then t10 becomes the now t7...?

If they decreased the price to what I said, I think the price of plussers could stay where they were. Though I am sure there would still be justice to be served for those prices at that point in time.

but who can seriously tell me they will keep statting at their current tier(whatever that may be) if puries were 1/3 the cost they are currently(~6-7 dias), and simply end up spending 1/3 the money.

i have a strong suspicion most people will just go "hey, i can get more for the same price"...and even those who will start out trying to cut costs will end up looking around at other people's gear thats all a tier higher than theirs.



simply put: it's a p2w system. if you make it cheaper to "win", then people are just going to want to "win" even more for the same price, and no money is actually saved on the consumer end.

to "fix" the item shop, you need to implement something that limits the p2w system, such as a tier cap or something, yet that isn't practical at all, as you won't hook the "whales" quite as deeply.

tl;dr: cheaper puries are not the end of all problems.

your suspicion may be right.

my suspicion is that will also happen, but there will also be tons more people with statted gear.



Changes need to happen to TP/XP orbs aswell. Way too pricey. Until a new zone opens that will accommodate level 50-90, the prices are crazy high.

(also if they could reset said "theory zone" every 2 weeks or month so that xp / tp could be farmed and stuff, that would be cool. Theory zone would also be very small and prereq's would be questing completed in areas of Dalanis forward.)

adding back TP packages

adding in furniture and chests

more costumes

they are supposedly still doing IS reconstruction, but I haven't seen anything permanent for awhile now.

agreed BB, more people will have *something* statted. my point is the "norm" will still increase, even if, say half, the people decide to go the extra tier, so those people that have *something* aren't really gaining as much relatively. yes, they are still improving, but so is everybody else, and who do you think instances/PvP/the game in general is going to(continue to) be designed for?

Well we had a sale not too long ago with puris at 9 diamonds each and if you have bought diamonds at 140% 2 weeks earlier, you were golden. that made it about 3 diamonds per purified stone. And OMG what if T10 clean statted gear becomes the norm?? omg i am gonna have to regear everything to run the same instances i am doing now, because the other players will kick me cause i do less DPS then them, oh no!!!! LMAO


As Cerb said, the price of puri's is pretty decent, in 2009 i made my first clean T8 Sword of Fear, i think i was one of the few on Reni to have a clean statted weapon and it cost a lot to make. Today with price of puri's, most endgamers you see have clean T10 main hand or T9 offhand already. Don't buy it, if you don't like it, they are here to make money after all.

BTW we seem to be getting diamonds sales every 2-3 weeks now so saying we get diamonds sales every 2 month is wrong and inexact. The XP or TP orb are truly out of touch with reality. That 5 X TP 100K orbs the other day for 499 diamonds i think or something, well i can buy 1 DRT for 39 diamonds at full price and do my 10 dailies for 600K, so sales on this are out of the game.

As i said before put the sales person in game and obligate him to level a toon to level 75 by questing and using the item shop, then make he/she will wake the hell up and revamp some stupid prices in IS ;-)