Runes of Magic US / AU

(little off topic here, but....) To people playing on Reni, whenever Hall of Earth is open, if I am on, I will be more than willing to join a group for it and learn the strats. If I can figure out strats that will help enable middle to endgame guilds and pug runs to run the instance, I will post them on Forums. But currently I only have one strat for first boss that hasn't even been tested yet.

(back on topic) It really doesn't matter that it has little incentive or not, what a lot of people are putting gold into opening it for are the buffs offered. Might be a little greater incentive for finicky people if the 3% buff didn't get removed when you die, but that doesn't really HAVE to be changed.

I agree with you whole heartedly about the cost being too great for the amount of time the instance is open. That's the main reason why I started this thread. I was originally of the mindset that the price should just be drastically decreased. Cike allowed me to consider other options such as the increased npc donation rate.

If you use my example of 100 people contributing just 30k gold and the npc rate being upped from 100 gold/sec to 250 gold/sec, each of those 100 people would only be spending 270k gold to open the instance. While I don't know exactly how many people there are on each server, I felt that 100 people would be a good number for my calculations. And, as Timthum pointed out, he spends a good 100k or so to get the buff he wants. Other people do it, too. That further decreases the time to open the instance.

It's not really a matter of "no one can run it, so why open it". It's a matter of people being reliant on the top guilds to run stuff for them instead of forming pug runs to run the content themselves. Yes, the cost for the time open is exorbitant, and this thread is here to attempt to FIX THAT. Not everyone can burn everything, and making the instance more player-friendly to open would help entice people to "get their toon's faces smashed in repeatedly" to learn strats that enable them to run the instance themselves. If people would be more willing to let their toons die, the more activity we'd see due to there not being only one or two guilds that are OP.

One tends to learn more from failure than from success. I've been in there once in a group trying to run it. We wiped on the first boss after the adds spawned. Everyone that died thought that they had been one shot. I was one of the only ones that lived. But I noticed that everyone who died got 2 shot. So, I went to Origin and started testing the adds the first boss spawned, and it's extremely similar to the adds spawned by first boss in Hall of Earth. I formed a simple strategy based off of the similarities and yes it still needs tested in Hall of Earth. But I took what happened in that run and created a hypothetical strategy needing confirmation. The world wasn't created all at once, you know. Take a risk: die trying to learn.

Let's hope GF/RW makes the npc donation rate higher. And then, let's learn.

Yea, you do need to meet a minimum gear requirement. But how many people are endgame geared in a mid-game guild? Obviously Hall of Earth is not for way undergeared people. Though, I wouldn't say the people able to run it are mainly all in one guild. The problem is that most people who are geared enough to run it aren't contributing to it because they don't want to die and because the player cost is too much for the time the instance is open. While I think people need to start letting themselves die to learn the strats and attempt to clear the instance, there's also only so much someone can take in a day. Say, one or two key people to the party can't stand dying more than 3 times on the same boss in the same instance on the same day, there goes the party. Which would mean you could only run the instance 9 times or so. Too much cost = players not bothering with it. Increasing the npc donation rate would lower the cost, hopefully enticing more people to bother with it. If there are 100 people, like with my calculations contributing 30k per, that's 270k gold a person, which is less than what you make by doing dailies in Hortek.

I don't really think I'm underestimating Hall of Earth much. I know what the trash mobs do just to my priest/knight with 315k pdef. They hurt.... a lot. If I was underestimating the instance, I wouldn't even bother trying to figure out a strat to keep people alive and to kill the bosses easier. I'd just say, Ok, let's just get enough dps, a k/w, a m/wl, and a druid and let's burn the boss down. Hell, the adds spawned by the first boss cause the tank's pheonix redemption to go off. I know it's no joke. I want to figure out strats to clear it and keep people alive. Once I can do that, I will post the strats. But I honestly don't think it should be made permanent.



Also, for the people advocating for the instance to be turned into being permanently open: If the Arcanium Chamber is made permanently open, how are you going to get your Haidon's Special Catalysts to make the gear? Just food for thought....

@Achilleas1: Honestly, I'd have to disagree with you about nothing needing to be changed about it. No ome is bothering with the instance because the cost is too large for the amount of time open. If the cost decreases, more players would be willing to attempt it due to it being open more frequently.

@RTP: Everyone hates dying. They get death debt if they don't use a big angel's sigh, they lose dura on their gear which they then have to repair (and use golden repair hammers on if they hammered an UD piece and it goes back to being UD), their pet loses loyalty and nourishment.

Now, compiling the different suggestions from this thread, as well as adding some of my own, the npc donation rate should be upped to 250 gold/sec, and there should be a buff npc inside the Arcanium Chamber that takes 250k gold for a 2 hour buff that the can choose the category of such as Magic, Melee, Defense. The buffs will be a random 5% buff to anything in that category except for the focus, rage, and energy regen rates which would be 5 a second.

Magic will contain a buff to Wisdom, Intelligence, Magic Attack, Magic Damage, Healing Bonus, MP Regen rate, Mana, or a 5 focus/sec recovery rate.

Battle will have a buff to Strength, Dexterity, Physical Attack, Physical Damage, Mana, 5 focus/sec recovery rate, 5 rage/sec recovery rate, or 5 energy/sec recovery rate.

Defense will have a buff to Stamina, Health, Defense, Received Healing, HP regen rate, Physical Attack, Physical Damage, or Mana.

What's everyone's opinion on this compromise and additions? (The instance should not be made permanent otherwise no one would be able to get more Haidon's Special Catalysts.) The buff npc would appear in the central area of the Arcanium Chamber.