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+1 from me

also put in the list the following:

- r/k lvl 15 elite
- r/d lvl 60 elite
- wl/p lvl 30 elite
- s/d lvl 60 elite
- s/m lvl 40 elite
- r/m lvl 25 elite

for their (controversially or not) broken elites. ofc they r not combo-breaking ones, as in the case of wd/m and r/p, but still they r elites that u wouldn't want to have in ur skills arsenal cause they render one skill useless (or almost useless) each.

Quoted from "achilleas1"

- r/k lvl 15 elite
- r/d lvl 60 elite
- wl/p lvl 30 elite
- s/d lvl 60 elite
- s/m lvl 40 elite
- r/m lvl 25 elite

Quoted from "achilleas1"

for their (controversially or not) broken elites. ofc they r not combo-breaking ones, as in the case of wd/m and r/p, but still they r elites that u wouldn't want to have in ur skills arsenal cause they render one skill useless (or almost useless) each.

.... How does Psychic Rising Tide render a skill useless on wl/p? I think an instant rising tide that costs no mana to use and has a chance to make urgent heal instant, more powerful (for the instant cast), and cost no mana is pretty good.It just gives rising tide a cooldown. Doesn't m/p do the same (except for the instant urgents and not costing mana)? If your basing it breaking a skill off of my post for ideas to fix warlocks, then to clarify, I wasn't saying it was broken. Just that it should also turn rising tide into a dark spell.

the concept of the post is that an elite skill should provide advantages. only.

in same terms, lvl 15 elite of r/k increases the dmg of disarmament. however, it gives the skill a 3-sec cd. if u feel like u can "fill" that interval then its a great elite since it increases dmg of a dps-skill. others however will argue cause they prefer to spam disarmament in these 3-secs (will less dmg), rather than fill with other skill.

wl/p RT elite provides a nice boost to RT. however it gives it a 4-5sec cd. its all about how u want to make use of the skills. for example s/m ignite gets boosted in dps-terms by the 40 elite and also may root the opponent. i d prefer it as a buff to be able to cancel it, cause it really breaks apart the swarm of mobs u may be kiting (cough * tosh * cough).

in general, my opinion is that if an elite provides even a minor "bad" modification to a skill (either by entering cd or reducing effect time etc), then it should be put as a Buff so the player can decide either to use its effect or not. if they do it, there will be no-mass complains about broken skills or about different playstyles.

If you're going by that logic, then put the m/p elite that modifies rising tide into the list, too. But playing as a wl/p, psychic arrows does more damage than rising tide (and I'm comparing it to when I had psychic arrows at lvl 50 and rising tide at 60), rising tide does not cause a global cool down, it still gets its cast speed of 2 damage modifier, it is really nice on bosses that drain your focus/rage/mana/energy as kit costs nothing to use, and it also has a nice place in a instant cast rotation (mine is spreading pain, soul trauma, rising tide, warp charge, heart collection strike, surge of malice, and by the time that's over, I can usually start the middle of my rotation again as rising tide, warp charge, heart collection strike, surge of malice. If I really need to add in a skill, I'll throw in a couple quick psychic arrows and a puzzlement while the target is still weakened, and I'll also use weakening weave curse to refresh the weakened debuff.).