Runes of Magic US / AU

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Honestly, one of the biggest issues is that the hard mode instances are extremely difficult to run without the "perfect party". And then it gets selected down even further based on how each person is geared. Once the instance is cleared, the gear not needed by those in the "perfect party" or, if the guildies get lucky enough, the guildies, then gets sold for ridiculous prices (basing this off of Reni a few months ago when gear was actually going into the AH). Then you add on top of the cost of buying the gear, the price of stats and the price of diamonds. Many people, when selling gear, pull off the good stats that they don't need and sell both the piece of gear and the stat on it individually.


Currently, the good jungle and pillar yellow stats are going for 10mil or greater on Reni, while the fjord and horror are going for 6mil or greater (6mil and 10mil were the cheapest good stats I saw). With those prices, it costs about 52mil gold (4 of the new, 2 of the old) just to stat a piece of gear up if you're buying directly off of the AH. Then, with dias being 100k per as the average price on Reni, just plussing it up to +16 (without a sale) costs you about 34mil with 0 fails. That would make just getting one piece of gear "endgame" ready about 86mil. You then add on the cost of the piece of gear if you're buying it and didn't craft/farm it yourself. That's pretty expensive, goldwise. To just regear 4 pieces purely buying everything except the pieces, it would cost you 344mil on Reni. And that's not even including the cost of tiering the gear, nor the cost of orange stats (if you wish to buy them) which are astronomically higher than the yellow stats.

Do bag stats help reduce the cost? Yes. But you won't be as OP as the other person who's in all instance/shell statted gear, thus creating a want for the more OP person in the party over you that's wearing the gear that has bag stats on it, and god forbid if you're not one of the FoTM combos. Can farming your own stats help reduce the cost as well? Yes, but then it's gonna cost you 4 days of no minis to get the puri for the shell stats or just 1.9mil gold to buy the puri from someone else. And if it's one of the easy mode or crafted pieces of gear, you have to use one to two RAEs (3.9mil each) just to get the stat you want off of the gear without destroying it (and if you're crafting it, or farming it just for the stat, it would take either one RAE and one puri, or just one RAE). The cost to gear up to instance level is way too expensive. Before seeing a level upgrade, I'd rather see a change to instances that makes them not "burn or die", an easier easy and normal mode (which can then be used to gear up and get ready for the hard mode), and some class balancing that makes ALL class combos viable in instances. It would be really nice if we could have 18 people able to enter hard mode, which would then drop 3 pieces of gear, 12 people able to enter normal mode, which would then drop 2 pieces of gear, and 6 people for easy mode, which would still drop one piece of gear (which would have only one stat on it or two if the additional bag stat matched the kind of gear it was for and was a viable bag stat), as well as the bosses having strats to them that can be done before the boss kills you. The bosses should also force you to do the strats in order to kill them.

Sorry for the wall of text, but just my 2 cents with some numbers thrown in.

EDIT: To clarify, by pieces of gear, I'm talking about pieces that aren't weapons/shields/tali, though those should also drop. I was thinking something like, 1 piece of mage gear drops, 1 piece of healer gear drops, 1 piece of plate gear drops, weapon/shield/tali for any class drops.

Quoted from "TWMXC"

Class balance hasn't existed since day 1.

Buff stacking just makes it much more noticeable.

It's about time we actually try to get RW to make class balancing a reality, then!

About the warrior rage.... Honestly, I think warriors should get a couple skills changed to cost nothing and to generate some rage, or make a 5 minute buff that increases the rage received from white hitting things, just like the champion class's Forge. This would help eliminate the rage problem warriors have.

About ch/wl.... I've just started working with ch/wl on an alt trying it out. from my current observations on it, it seems like it should be able to do close to the amount of dps a ch/r does with the biggest difference being the need to use rage for Dark Energy Strike and Indomitable Spirit, thus removing some of the possibility to use Rune Overload. And with a healer that doesn't just heal the tank, hp pots, and using indomitable spirit, ch/wl should be able to have really good sustained dps. I'm gonna have to get it to lvl cap and get all of it's elites as well as gear it just to test how it does in an instance, but from the looks of it, it looks like it should have decent dps. Ch/wl Forge buff is currently broken and only boosts patk by 1% per stack, whereas other champs get it 2% per stack, even though there is no elite that changes the % patk Forge gives, and this has been posted in bug reports, with Grimthar currently looking into it.

About healing.... Healing is extremely overpowered (except on sw gates. Then it takes quite a bit to even get it anywhere close to above what a herald torn does to it.) One of the biggest things that makes healing so overpowered is the amount of healing point boosts healers get from their gear and their set bonuses. Should it be reduced? Yes, but only if boss and trash mob damage is reduced a little to compensate. Other classes only get a 3 digit number to their damage stat from one or 2 pieces of gear and from set bonuses, whereas healers get a 4 digit number to their damage (calling it damage cause it affects the healing damage you do, pretty much a negative damage being done to someone xD lol) stat. And remember... this is coming from a healer.

About warlocks.... I agree, warlocks should not be given OP damage when they are mainly a buffer. However, warlocks have an option of support or dps, which is something no other class has. Currently, warlocks can match or outdps an equally geared mage in the easy and normal instances as well as the older instances, but not the newer hard mode instances. If their damage calculation was changed to be the same as the damage calculation of the other magic classes, this issue would be resolved. And about their support capabilities... their support skills, with the exception of wl/m and wl/r (wl/r actually has some pretty nice support skills, though they aren't good for "burn or die"), are pretty useless to an endgame party. Their support skills need revamped to be more useful in instances, or the instances need to be changed to make support classes more useful.

Quoted from "Rougetopriest"

Quoted from "Zerienga"

About warlocks.... I agree, warlocks should not be given OP damage when they are mainly a buffer. However, warlocks have an option of support or dps, which is something no other class has. Currently, warlocks can match or outdps an equally geared mage in the easy and normal instances as well as the older instances, but not the newer hard mode instances. If their damage calculation was changed to be the same as the damage calculation of the other magic classes, this issue would be resolved. And about their support capabilities... their support skills, with the exception of wl/m and wl/r (wl/r actually has some pretty nice support skills, though they aren't good for "burn or die"), are pretty useless to an endgame party. Their support skills need revamped to be more useful in instances, or the instances need to be changed to make support classes more useful.

To make them more viable for party support they need to make the wl/m's warp charge, and all the warlocks Surge of Awareness hit ONLY players. :/

But then that would still make wl/m more viable than the other combos. Though, yes, all of the aoe party buffs from warlock support skills should only affect players across the entire raid.

All group heals (unless the number it effects is specifically stated) should also be able to hit everyone in the raid, and not just one group of the raid.

Well, I'm saying that should be in addition to decreasing the effectiveness of heals and the damage from bosses/adds.

The only thing a priest has that's superior to druids.... They get a nice rez in same spot after dying, and their group heal that hits for far more than a druid aoe heal. Unfortunately, that only hits the party that the priest is in. xD

That's only for p/k though xD and it's actually 63% damage reduction, not 50% :3