Runes of Magic US / AU

....Seriously, you do realize that making threads like this just contribute to the problem, right? New players potentially come to the forums and look around. They see a thread like this "Is RoM on life support?"

New Player: "Ah crap, dead game." *leaves and uninstalls*

Runes of Magic is fine. The advertising could be better, but for the most part its fine.

Let me go through your list one by one and let you know why I think a stupid thread is stupid.

1) Of course. RoM added all the servers to cater to the influx of players. Every MMO goes through a server merge at some point, simply because the interest in the game WILL decrease overtime. For RoM, its been what....5 years? That's a pretty long time.

2) So? New level cap hopefully means new content to clear, new quests to do, new gear to find, hopefully easier than the last.

3) I can somewhat agree with you here. But ANY change to siege is welcome, it means RW isn't using the excuse "It's siege, it's in Beta, get over it"

4) Several games that have lived as long as RoM have the same event year after year, and besides the bugginess, they're fairly good events. Free items for doing what you normally do, I'd say that's a good event.

5) I see a GM chat in world at least once a month, if not more. Better than the year we went without a single one, I'd say.

6) You don't "need" +16 perfects to gear. I don't have them, and I enjoy the game just fine. Actually, I think it would be better NOT to buy them - then maybe the publisher and the developer would realize that +20 should not tbe the new norm.

7) I'm on to quest on alts, do dailies, sometimes siege, and I know several others that are doing the same.

8 ) Zeevex is still doing their adventure bag giveaways, but that's about it, so I can kind of see your point here. See my point above that says "Advertising could be better"

9) Name 'several'. I still see loads of the higher level characters that have been here since Open Beta still playing.

10) Cite your source. None of us know exactly how many players are on the server at a given time. If I had to guess though...there are what...100 guilds that sign up to siege...if each one of those guilds has at least 5 active actual players on during siege that's 500 people that play. That's hardly what I'd call "on life support" or "dead" as these threads lead people to believe.

Again, stupid thread is stupid, cause all it's doing is contributing to the problem that people seem to think this game is dead and runaway.

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Reni:
Jguy a.k.a.: CUDDLETANK - 85 Knight/65 Priest/66 Mage
Magely - 85 Mage/82 Druid
Cuddledwarf - 45 Champion/31 Mage/43 Warlock
Guild: Back in Crush
^ Reni toons semi retired in favor of:

Osha:
Jjguy - 30/30 Knight/Mage
Guild: Illuminae

Traitor.

P.S. Also, i largely agree with the other verbiage in your post


Anton

Jguy really hit the main points pefectly. Threads like these cause potentially new players to leave without even trying the game out because it claims that "the game is dead."

P.S. I agree, Anton. Jguy is a traitor to Reni lmao.

I have said this for years on people making threads like this, if you can't play the game, can't find people to play with you, maybe look in the mirror and you might find what is wrong. As yet again, toon name, server you play on would also help.

People have reali lives, work, children, family, friends, vacations, holidays etc, don't expect people to be on 24/7 just for you loll.

A lot of players got banned for hacking, duping, exploiting, botting etc, they only have themselves to blame, play clean or get out.

Stupid thread is stupid.

Move on and get a life, people here still enjoy the game.

First- is this threads title and contents "stupid", well first I don't think anyone should be labeling it as "stupid", that is insulting to the poster and personally I see that as one of the main problems with the player base of ROM, or maybe just the forums. Most are quick to jump to emotion and insults to try to "prove their position". This should not be the case if you want a true "community". What type of community do you have that insults anyone that says something you don't agree with? Ill leave you with that, and I hope most have the ability to analyze themselves and their actions objectively.

Second- The thread topic could be changed, it is a little ... much. A title such as "my concerns about ROM", could have been a much better thread title. HOWEVER, I understand and relate with the OPs feelings and opinions. A lot of his points I agree with. He makes lots of valid points that even some have agreed with are concerns. They are his concerns.... you cant change that. That is his OPINION, and he is ALLOWED to have it. Again if this community silences those that get out of lock step with the rest of the posting population... what does that make us as a "community"... That alone will "drive off new players", a community that doesn't welcome differing opinions.

Third- People telling him to just go to another game... Honestly I have come to LOATHE hearing that. So you are ok with players leaving? What if he truly is hoping to bring up points that he finds concerning in the hopes that the GM staff will pass along the concerns and MAYBE some of them will get fixed?" So instead of him hoping and trying to get the game to fix some of the glaring problems.... you would rather him just quit? I am sure there have been lots that have done what you suggest. I would rather have the people voice their opinions BEFORE they are fed up in a hopes to get the GMS to do something about it....... After all there is the old saying "if you don't know something is broke you cant fix it".

Fourth- Everything he said here is correct... from his standpoint. My frame of reference seems to be close to his, as I see things the same way he does. Just because you DONT see it that way, means you have a different frame of reference.... that does NOT mean he is wrong.

Just some food for thought before you start devouring a long time player for having an opinion you don't like

now I will add my OPINION on his points

1) This concerns me as well as it is usually the fact that consolidating servers means they aren't worth running anymore. However, this doesn't mean the death of the game. Many games have consolidated servers and lived long lives after. While I share your concern, I am more concerned with HOW it will be implemented.

2) Yes, new level cap is pretty much the only time we see new content and it doesn't last long. No new content means players will leave because they are bored. I welcome new level caps, but I can see your point here.

3) I 100% agree here. The guards needed to be harder... BUT CMON!!!! I do not base my gameplay on siege though, so it was not a huge deal to me. To those that siege is more important to... I can see how they would welcome this change and loathe this change. It did isolate a LOT of players, which is never a good thing.

4) See number 2

5) I am kinda Meh on this part. Personally, everytime I see GMs on, it is 50/50 whether it is a good or bad experience. Some GMs to me can improve gameplay, others destroy gameplay. I pretty much retired thanks to two GMs and a recent event, so personally I am happier when I don't deal with power hungry GMs.

6) Yes, dias sellers are down, dia buyers are down. This I think also stems from a content issue. It also stems from the fact that people are getting wise to the fact that trying to pay to get to endgame is not going to mean your are going to have fun, etc. Also with lackluster items, a lot of players aren't upgrading gear. Hopefully level 90 gear will fix this.

7) Yes a lot of them are. Playing 2 other games, one as old as this one, one 3 years newer, the population seems VASTLY larger. Not to mention the ingame community seems VASTLY more friendly (well in one of them, the other is a very competitive one). This could just be my server, this could be many things. I do randomly see people leveling a char in lower zones, not many though.

I miss these, but they have been gone for years now. I am assuming those promotions were only things that Frogster wanted to do, they could be a good idea to get people into the game though.

9) and 10) see 2 and 7. While I may agree that it seems this way, and to me it looks this way (on Artemis), it may not be the case, but I do share your concerns.

Well I would disagree that people are enjoying the game still, maybe a very small handful of people are, the ones that still have an active guild or friends....without a popluation it is very difficult to enjoy lets be honest, whether your interest lies in having people to run stuff with, compete with, or just people to chat with either in a guild/world/party chat or Online chat programs.

From my perspective it really does seem like the population is dropping steady and quickly on every server. It is not due to Holidays,family,vacations or real life issues, it is because people have lost interest in the game and moved on....I highly doubt that many of those that have left will return no matter what RoM really does at this point.

If you think about it after 3+ years of the same thing people get burnt and tired of the same old format especially when the repeat keeps rising astronomically in price.

Just a Thought about the plussing....

If this was a US based game hosted/developed by a US company then we would probably get changes done to the plussing gems. Yet since this is an Asian based game and from my understanding gambling is a big part of the Asian culture compared to NA culture, I highly doubt the will ever change the way the plussing gems work or are sold.

On a Side note the EU servers seem to be doing just fine ( last time I logged on there they had added two new servers )....so my thoughts are not the Game is Closing the Game is closing but really wish they would hurry up with information or plans on the server merge for NA server cluster.

Quoted from "hwg103"

4.) Same event year after year.

Yes, I'm fed up having Valentines Day, Pancake Day, Easter, April Fools Day, May Day, My Birthday, Thanksgiving, Christmas, Hogmanay and New Years Day all the bleedin' time.

Can we hurry up and have a new calendar, please?

And for the love of god, standardise it. It's annoying having 365 ays most of the time and 366 only once every 4 years - which are 12 months long & they're all different lengths!
Can we just set to to 10 months and let them have 100 days each. Then, 1 year = 1000 days and 1 day = 10 hours! It's a whole lot easier to count.

We'd have to put up some propellers around the world to speed up it's rotation for a 10-hour day and then fly a big parachute from the two poles to slow it's spin around the sun, but maybe then there's be more room in the year for some new events!

Quoted from "kakita01"

If this was a US based game hosted/developed by a US company then we would probably get changes done to the plussing gems. Yet since this is an Asian based game and from my understanding gambling is a big part of the Asian culture compared to NA culture, I highly doubt the will ever change the way the plussing gems work or are sold.

This has nothing to do with it being based in asia LOL. It's based on behavior psychology called random reward schedules which makes things more addictive if the rewards are not predictable and in fixed intervals. You see this throughout the game-plussing jewels, minigames shells, instance drops, crafting items. Activities will get very boring if you always get what you expect, but if you throw randomness in there people will still want to keep doing them.

So many people can't see the forest for the trees. I don't play anymore and haven't for a while, but I still read the forums. It's funny how often you'll see threads about where is everyone, I can't run this/that, and other "doomsday" threads from relative new players, but the hardcore people keep coming back and saying the game is healthy. It's not. Open your eyes and look at the overall population. I consistently hear from friends I have that do still play (less and less each day), that logging in during prime time and world chat is dead. Varanas central is empty or very few people around.

New players don't have to come here to find out the game is dead/dying, all they have to do is log in and see no one around. That does far more damage than any doomsday thread here.

Good news: We could potentially be merged into one big server

Good news (to me): after realizing that there still will be a few people, couldn't that mean we get merged with an EU server? :''''''')
I play other games on EU west servers and lag isn't too bad.

offtopic:

On irc, a gm said we'd get a server merge update before christmas. NO NOT THE SERVER MERGE, they will have something to say about it before christmas.

Also, dk is right about telling him he is wrong and stupid. Put yourself in his shoes, it really isn't hard to see where he is coming from.

If you seriously think that the game state is ok and healthy when the population seems like 50 with mostly alts............

Yrcanos... EPIC post. loved it.

and once again... im agreeing with BB on this one.

No need to call anyone stupid, atleast he takes the time out of his busy life to come onto this forum and actually write a post about his opinion. I mean theres what... 10-20 active continous posters on forums these days? I used to check morning and night on forums and see what new things popped up, nowadays i check every few days, and there still really isnt that much to read or write about anymore lol.

This game imo has the ability to blow WOW out of the water, i just dont know how to run it better myself.
If the cost of the game dropped dramatically and maybe they advertised more, could have millions playing this too lol, but alas im just a filthy mechanic what do i know.

Still really excited about servor merge.

State of game isnt doing well atm, but im sure it will turn around.

If state of game was so good on reni... heretic would be in heretic not knightshift.... XD. jkjk

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If state of game was so good on reni... heretic would be in heretic not knightshift.... XD. jkjk

Well first off: The people from Reni that say it's fine are playing with blinders, content to just quest their alts and grind mini games and dailies every day over and over. With the occasional Tosh or GCH run to make them feel like they are running something.. you know who you are.

NONE of those people who say the game is fine on Reni are setting foot into endgame content (Hardmodes people.. running pillars easy doesn't count as endgame.. sorry lol)

Second: Most of the Heretic members are actually in VVV now.. again.

Quoted from "Gutterboy"

Quoted from "FarmerTom"

If state of game was so good on reni... heretic would be in heretic not knightshift.... XD. jkjk

Well first off: The people from Reni that say it's fine are playing with blinders, content to just quest their alts and grind mini games and dailies every day over and over. With the occasional Tosh or GCH run to make them feel like they are running something.. you know who you are.

NONE of those people who say the game is fine on Reni are setting foot into endgame content (Hardmodes people.. running pillars easy doesn't count as endgame.. sorry lol)

Second: Most of the Heretic members are actually in VVV now.. again.

Alas, I'm not in an endgame guild, though I'm endgame statted, and I have no desire to leave my guild just to be "endgame." I would go help heal you guys in vvv if you wanted it and if you did runs before siege war. But alas, everytime I even try to get a run for HoE, no one even wants to go. Not everyone can be on after siege, but that's when everyone expects to do runs. Maybe if people decided to log on more than an hour or two before sw, there would be more people running endgame content. The disconnects aren't helping either, but the gms can't do anything about that as it's not your isp's fault, nor the server's fault. This being said, people have been finding ways to get around the issue that is causing the disconnects. If anyone that's reading this is having the disconnect issue, check out the Connection Issues thread to see what people have been doing to deal with this.

Endgame is just that endgame. It has nothing to do with the majority of the game. It is a separate island outside the game. All items dropped in the endgame instances are bound and require ABLs that are very expensive when on sale and make it impossible to get most of the items out to the community so they could do the instances as well. The AH is empty on both servers RENI and GOVINDA. Not a weapon or piece of armor below level 80 that was useable and on more than one occasion there were no wings, or staves or crossbows at all on sale for over a week at a time.
There is no point in running a low level instance if you are low enough to use the items you are not strong enough to do the instance and any item you get will cost too much to unbind and sell. The stats that they have are too low to make them worthwhile to stone out.
I am currently playing a low level alt for the reason that it can be played enjoyably I have gotten it up to level 71/72 living off bag armor but the weapons are almost worthless. A few years ago when I started the game there was always plenty of gear in the AH and you could buy new gear and sell your old gear every 5 to 10 levels now there is nothing. My maxed out characters are not the right class combos for instances and even though very well geared up are no where near endgame so they sit idle except for dailies necessary to get enough tp to upgrade a few skills. In a futile hope that some day classes will be balanced and become playable again.

ENDGAME IS WHAT WILL END THIS GAME.

Well btw i didn't call that person stupid, i called the thread stupid. Also how many times you people have said the same thing on my threads?? loll. I have been saying for years that they should have more ads outhere, PC GAMER promos ( that is what got me in this game ;-) ) Facebook free items was a nice way to get people too, but that is all gone now.

New content should be done 4 time a year as it always been before, but can't blame them for all the losers that duped, hacked and exploited the game and for them to put the ressources to end that. What about the endgamers that we have to thank, that got unlimited adventure packs codes too?? Don't talk about the prices of endgame gear costs, ABL again on sale yesterday for 50 diamonds, so ya.

Gameforge could do more for the game?? sure, if they cared enough about it. But ROM is just another game to them and they just don't see the potential for it. They prefer to have games for phones and make a crap ton of money with all the ADHD people. They don't care if the game lasts only 2 months and then they move one and spend their money on another one. It's like Black Friday, they run like chickens with no heads to anything new LOL..

The only thing that keeps this game going right now are the GM's and the dedicated players who love the game.

Quoted from "zidlef"

The only thing that keeps this game going right now are the GM's and the dedicated players who love the game.

For once I agree 100% with something Zid said.