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Friday, December 5th 2014, 11:37pm

So what about siege?
We have several Aussie in the guild that can't siege because of time diference

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Saturday, December 6th 2014, 12:24am

I have to agree that I don't think anything should be done by GF or Runewaker about gold. The prices are set by players, its not their job to give players more gold because gold was worth more on their server before the merge. That is just going to make much more work.

As far as Character names.. I don't agree 100% that a toon that was made first should get to keep it's name. Many things should be considered. Character level, activity, etc... My main is Mongosmash, I have that name on every server except for Osha. I don't know if the person who has it on Osha made it before me, but regardless I should get to keep it because I'm almost positive that they aren't even playing that toon and aren't an endgame player. I've put much more money and time into my character and developing a reputation around that name.

TLDR: Going 100% on who made it first is not the right direction. Need to consider Character level across all classes and activity (How recently they have been active, how many hours played if that is available etc..)

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Saturday, December 6th 2014, 1:13am

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So what you are saying Zeri, they are bringing Thalia to Reni, cool that will be fun, especially having 5 more people YEAH!!! and i tought only Cammo was left ;-)


I havn't been on AU in months lol. Havn't actually played there for over a year now. Havn't even been on Govinda either, my guild leader quit and I just havn't been bothered... bored as hell of the 'burn or die' mentality.

If they merge.....I might come back....but my AU toon is geared for lvl 75-80....so pretty much out of the question on re-gearing that 1 :/

Also wondering what happens to guilds and/or the contents.....I personally have an alt guild with 4 pages full of pots (hero's, serenstum, candy, stims, uni's etc). I guess I should expect all those to be deleted?
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Saturday, December 6th 2014, 2:22am

Well they should just add an a-b-c-d or e at the end of duplicare names and then you can ask them to change the name to something else. Do people want to preserve their names or actually have players on their servers?

As for guilds, well the guild leader should get all his materials back and gold on it so he can reform it or donate to his/her new guild. that would be my biggest scare for guilds castle.

As for personal gold issues, well you get what you used to have and that's it, why give an advantage of getting them 2X or 3X the gold because their economy sucked? adjust to the new one and start selling your diamonds at 120K and they'll make it back fast.

Better to play on a server who has players and clear stuff, then playing by yourself, selling yourself your own gear loll ;-)

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Saturday, December 6th 2014, 2:30am

Personally, I agree nothing should be done about adjusting people's gold. it's to much of a can of worms, large numbers of players probably wouldn't be able to handle it in a calm and mature fashion.

As for name conflicts, I'd say either:

1.) if both characters are active, the name is kept by the older of the two. (names are on a first come, first served bases on any given server, seems the only fair way to deal with conflicts between characters that are active imho.)

2.) both characters are forced to rename.



in the end, no matter what GameForge chooses to do, there will be unhappy people.


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Saturday, December 6th 2014, 4:44am

Just a suggestion, if names are that important to folks then make it a gold sink - have folks pay gold for the rights to keep their name after a server merge. That accomplishes two things: first it helps people keep the names they want (player, guild, w/e) and also pulls some gold out of circulation helping to balance the new merged server economy.

Otherwise, just use special characters or alternate spellings like everyone else does when the name they want is already taken.
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Saturday, December 6th 2014, 5:43am

Quoted from "Gutterboy"

As far as Character names.. I don't agree 100% that a toon that was made first should get to keep it's name. Many things should be considered. Character level, activity, etc... My main is Mongosmash, I have that name on every server except for Osha. I don't know if the person who has it on Osha made it before me, but regardless I should get to keep it because I'm almost positive that they aren't even playing that toon and aren't an endgame player. I've put much more money and time into my character and developing a reputation around that name.

TLDR: Going 100% on who made it first is not the right direction. Need to consider Character level across all classes and activity (How recently they have been active, how many hours played if that is available etc..)
I disagree. Seniority alone is the only objective fair way to determine who gets to keep a name. Why should you get to keep it if he registered before you? Look at it this way, if he did register before you and he felt it was important to go on every server just to register a name, then you wouldn't even have it in the first place. It's just totally impractical to try to figure out criteria for determining whether someone is active enough or qualified to be deserving to keep their name.

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Saturday, December 6th 2014, 5:52am

I wouldn't mind having to change my name.

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Saturday, December 6th 2014, 6:08am

I also agree that if people have the same names in a server merge that it should ABSOLUTELY be done by seniority. If I came before you and you have my name, why SHOULDN'T I get to keep my name if I want to?

Sure, let's add certain stipulations like say if the higher seniority account has not had ANY log in activity in 1 - 3 years, let's give the next highest seniority the option, but absolutely an unbiased way IS to go by seniority.


There's always the option of starting EVERYONE'S name over, giving those who would LIKE and have been ASKING for a name change option for years the..well..option..but then you'll have those who will argue "well I liked my name and wanna keep it and I didn't get it first before someone else took it" so that wouldn't really work out

I'm also in agreement that there shouldn't be a currency "transference rate" between server transfers..you get what you have and that's it.
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Saturday, December 6th 2014, 6:18am

**If they start every name over then I'm going to register every endgamer's name that I can think of and sell the rights to the names.**

Now.. I'm not the kind of person that would do that for real but you can bet that there will be people trying to do that if they were to reset all the names of characters.. That is a horrible idea. No offense.

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Saturday, December 6th 2014, 6:43am

well then, i guess its a good thing to try to get forwarded to them people doing the merger.

What will happen if people have the same character name during the merger?


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Saturday, December 6th 2014, 7:04am

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**If they start every name over then I'm going to register every endgamer's name that I can think of and sell the rights to the names.**

Now.. I'm not the kind of person that would do that for real but you can bet that there will be people trying to do that if they were to reset all the names of characters.. That is a horrible idea. No offense.



yep, there's that point as well. equally if not more of an argument against the idea than my own rebuttal

I will reiterate that I said to my own idea it "wouldn't really work out"
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Saturday, December 6th 2014, 7:09am

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If they merge.....I might come back....but my AU toon is geared for lvl 75-80....so pretty much out of the question on re-gearing that 1 :/


I will happily have their gears if you don't want them anymore :D

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So what about siege?
We have several Aussie in the guild that can't siege because of time diference
I don't think they can siege right now anyway, with so few people on the server. And isn't siege like every 4 hours or something now? They could still do use those time slots to do their own AU sieges.
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Saturday, December 6th 2014, 4:17pm

People complaining about the definition of active.

Here's a bit of advice for those complaining about them merging active characters from the AU server.

If you left the server to play on a different one, but still want that character, just log into that toon to show that it is active.

If you deleted the character when you left, then that is your foolishness.

Myself, I've never been a fan of server merges. Because I've never seen one go well. However, recent events on Osha have made it clear to me that it is way overdue. I.E. guild populations have sunk so low that they are trying to cannibalize each other for players.


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Saturday, December 6th 2014, 5:54pm

Everything from items in bank and bag and all the guild's castle's and things and such should move over i reallly don't wanna lose ze shiny castle we have hopefully we can get a shiny skin soon *cough cannons cough* XD


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Saturday, December 6th 2014, 9:23pm

'Complaining' would be an inaccurate term for those talking about active accounts. I can only speak for myself, but my worry is not for myself, or even those reading and writing in these forums, but for others who don't read the forums or who may come back to the game with a server merge, or who just may come back to the game with no knowledge of a merge. So yes, I want active account defined so if I or others think it covers a too short of time, we can lobby, maybe fruitlessly, for a longer time span. Transparency in what it means would be a good thing though. :)

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Saturday, December 6th 2014, 11:27pm

If we have more than eight total characters across different servers, will we have to delete some to have only eight, or will we be allowed to have more than eight characters on the final server?

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Sunday, December 7th 2014, 2:32am

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'Complaining' would be an inaccurate term for those talking about active accounts. I can only speak for myself, but my worry is not for myself, or even those reading and writing in these forums, but for others who don't read the forums or who may come back to the game with a server merge, or who just may come back to the game with no knowledge of a merge. So yes, I want active account defined so if I or others think it covers a too short of time, we can lobby, maybe fruitlessly, for a longer time span. Transparency in what it means would be a good thing though. :)

Yea, that's why I decided to ask about what they meant by "active" account. Not everyone that is currently active reads forums or even checks homepage, especially if they quit, their frequency in checking decreases even more or even stops completely. I used to rarely check forums and the homepage. Now I just rarely check the homepage ;). So, yea. I think "active" needs defined. (Tbh, I feel that they *should* merge all accounts, but that's just me.)
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Sunday, December 7th 2014, 7:16am

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Honestly, I think that the final server(s) will need to figure out their own exchange rates on their own. People will have different prices, and it will most likely even or in the median of the prices.
Then I don't think anyone will want to merge with Palenque and their 300k per diamond/100m gear prices lol. Unless it has dropped a lot since then.
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Sunday, December 7th 2014, 1:59pm

They could avoid all the problems with gold and diamond prices if they wished. All they would have to do is set a price of the average price (which is well known on each server) and allow diamonds to be sold in the Auction House for only that fixed price for a period of a month after the server merge. That would settle and even out all the prices everywhere. It would also be a gold drain. This would also create a huge uptick in the diamond sales for them (more profit) and an influx of new items into the Auction House which is currently empty with the spreading out of the wealth. Doing it this way would eliminate all the scams and hoarding and reselling.

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