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Grumpdaddy

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Friday, December 12th 2014, 10:41pm

What do do with all my mounts...

There are a Boatload of mounts available. If a player decides to spend the diamonds, he or she can get something different to ride. HOW COOL!!! But wait- what to do with that old mare I just retired. Sure, I can just collect a bunch of them, but that's not very practical. I could also delete them, but that involves real world cash down the flusher. How about a Mount Bind Lifter (I shall refer to it as "MBL")in the cash shop specifically for unbinding mounts. There is already a spot in the AH to sell them, but we can't use it for anything except maybe those occasional mount tickets.

I am not suggesting a bind lifter for 19 diamonds, but something less than the cost of a new mount. 80-90 diamonds maybe to unbind the mount and then you can send it to an alt, give it to a newbie guild member, or sell it either in the AH or world channel. GF gains the sale of more diamonds for the MBL, as well as the willingness of the fashion-counscious players to buy the cool new mount on sale this week.

These MBLs don't need to be permanent fixtures, but at least include them on sale whenever GF runs a mount sale. My main has two mounts I don't need, and I hesitate to add to my stable simply because it doesn't make sense. Replacing that old chestnut gelding with a strong young stallion, though, that sounds great. I just can't justify adding more mounts on a toon that already has 5.
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Friday, December 12th 2014, 11:11pm

Great idea. Would probably work just as well making them unbind with an ABL like wings do. That way they wouldn't have to worry about adding something new to the game. This would also help the AH mount section make a bit more sense ...ah, shoot, I said "it would make sense" so it's doomed to never happen now sorry. :P
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Saturday, December 13th 2014, 1:07am

Sort of strange but a decent idea. One small problem though even though I never bought diamonds I have 8 mounts. There were many events where you could acquire permanent mounts and several sales over the years where you could get them for under 25 diamonds and one where you could get them for pirus tokens. Many people I spoke to have many mounts and would like to get rid of a few. I have a bad feeling that the Auction House would be flooded with mounts and they would soon sell for almost nothing. Which would do a lot of damage to Frogster's bottom line. Why buy a mount for diamonds when they are almost free for gold in the Auction House?
A far better Idea would allow you to trade them in on the purchase of other items in the cash shop. That would allow you to sell your excess mounts and at the same time add to Frogsters's bottom line

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Saturday, December 13th 2014, 4:45am

Good idea but they'll never do it due to how many diamonds they make off every person that wants a mount. Because there is no way to trade, it forces people to buy new mounts :(
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Saturday, December 13th 2014, 12:22pm

Good idea but they'll never do it due to how many diamonds they make off every person that wants a mount. Because there is no way to trade, it forces people to buy new mounts :(

I disagree, Cammo. IMO, it would give folks who buy mounts a sound reason to "trade them in for a newer model" as it were.
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Grumpmama 100/100 m/r
Littlegrump 100/100/50 k/p/m
Grumptwo 100/100 r/k
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Saturday, December 13th 2014, 12:33pm

What he means is, gameforge lose diamonds by this. So it will never happen.
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Saturday, December 13th 2014, 6:10pm

What he means is, gameforge lose diamonds by this. So it will never happen.
I think you're missing his point (a good one at that). Most players buy a single mount. If players could resell their current mount they might be more inclined to spend MORE diamonds to buy a newer one. This would generate MORE sales because there are a lot more people with only a single mount than those who collect multiple mounts. Think of it like a car. If you couldn't sell your car, most people would probably not buy a new car because they only really need one.
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Monday, December 15th 2014, 5:17pm

i think they would be afraid of people selling them from alts and ones they no longer use. I have 5 mounts on my main, and a couple on each alt (most i havent used in a year plus). So when i find a class combo i want to test i wouldnt buy a new mount, i will unbind and send to another toon. Or even sell the others in AH as i no longer need them, or give to guildie for the price of the diamonds the bind lifters cost. So i think they may not do this as it could cause new players to not purchase mounts, or alt toons to purchase mounts at full price.
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Monday, December 15th 2014, 6:14pm

Gameforge has a vested interest in preventing players from transferring mounts from one player to another or one of their alts. Every transfer costs Gameforge money because it means that the player getting the mount will never have to buy another. There is currently no way other than purchasing one with diamonds or very rare events to get a permanent mount. So if someone wants one they have to buy diamonds or some one else buy the diamonds and then pay the person who bought the diamonds with something else. This means that every time a player gets a mount currently someone has to buy diamonds from Gameforge. If mounts were able to be transferred between players it would mean that Gameforge would not get any payment for that mount from the new player getting the mount. The price of an ABL is so low compared to the price of a mount it is a major loss for Gameforge. The concept that a person selling one of their many mounts would buy another does not fly. It would just be a dump for players to get rid of old mounts and open up space in their backpacks.

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Tuesday, December 16th 2014, 6:10pm

while I would love to have the ability to transfer old mounts I never use to an alt....


I know this will probably never be implemented for the reasons already expressed so well on this thread. It just wouldn't be financially prudent for them to do this, so they wont. Suggestions that takes money out of GF's pocket will probably never be implemented...

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Tuesday, December 16th 2014, 7:04pm

What if... you could merge mounts together for a slight increase in speed? Two +65% mounts merge make one +66% speed etc? Kindof like merging pets. There would be a use to that and incintive for RW to keep selling mounts as well.

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Saturday, December 20th 2014, 3:01pm

Trebarren says:

What if... you could merge mounts together for a slight
increase in speed? Two +65% mounts merge make one +66% speed etc? Kindof
like merging pets. There would be a use to that and incintive for RW to
keep selling mounts as well.

I like that, although 1% increase is not much of an incentive. maybe 4 or 5%, with a cap at 90 or 95%. Also, remember , people, you would still need to unbind the mount before you transfer it to an alt or to the AH, so GF still gets to sell diamonds. Even if the BL were at 149 diamonds, it would make some degree of sense to spring for the purchase, and GF over time would see an increase in their use.

Yes, the AH would be flooded for a while, but the surplus would fade down to a tolerable level, and many of the sold mounts would pass out of circulation as people quit playing. It would probably be 6months to a year before stuff reached a "norm", but it would get there.
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Littlegrump 100/100/50 k/p/m
Grumptwo 100/100 r/k
Sneezzy 100/100 m/wl

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