Runes of Magic US / AU

This was actually a suggestion borella had made a long time ago and I think it's a good one.

1k mentos and u get non OD?

sell back get 500.

I think it'd be a good implementation.

The disadvantage of this is that if the NPC vendors are going to give you a significant refund, there's no reason for people to put stuff they don't want on the AH.

Quoted from "Sebkha"

The disadvantage of this is that if the NPC vendors are going to give you a significant refund, there's no reason for people to put stuff they don't want on the AH.

Most of them time it just goes to the trash bin anyways...

Agreed with OP. Shell stats in particular have horrific rates, and I really don't see any advantage to the game for trying to slow you down getting your shell stats.

Arguably, if people were smart, they'd turn their trash stat pulls into t6 stones for less costly t10-t12 stones for their weapons instead of trashing or vendoring them..easy and "cheap" t6's..

Also I disagree on shell pulls..well any pulls for that matter. Its all a combination of RNG and one's perception. I refuse to make my own Proof pulls because I rarely if ever pull a good stat let alone anything above a durability of like 78, however I'll make shell pulls all day long because for example the last 4 out of 5 pulls I've made have been int/mattk basins. And before that i had at least as high of a success rate on int/mattk jungle pulls. And someone else may have the exact opposite results, by pulling crap shell pulls and amazing Proof pulls..

Its all entirely random and every person's "luck" if you will, varies immensely.


Do I think this idea is a good one?

Yes. Absolutely a great suggestion.

Do I think it'll ever be given a thought by anyone who has the power to consider / implement said idea?

Lmfao...no.

Quoted from "acypcar90"

Arguably, if people were smart, they'd turn their trash stat pulls into t6 stones for less costly t10-t12 stones for their weapons instead of trashing or vendoring them..easy and "cheap" t6's..

Also I disagree on shell pulls..well any pulls for that matter. Its all a combination of RNG and one's perception. I refuse to make my own Proof pulls because I rarely if ever pull a good stat let alone anything above a durability of like 78, however I'll make shell pulls all day long because for example the last 4 out of 5 pulls I've made have been int/mattk basins. And before that i had at least as high of a success rate on int/mattk jungle pulls. And someone else may have the exact opposite results, by pulling crap shell pulls and amazing Proof pulls..

Its all entirely random and every person's "luck" if you will, varies immensely.


Do I think this idea is a good one?

Yes. Absolutely a great suggestion.

Do I think it'll ever be given a thought by anyone who has the power to consider / implement said idea?

Lmfao...no.

Making them into T6's is only really useful during the few months where you need purples for them. Otherwise, they're not really that useful.

I only ever get crap pulls from shells. Looks like I finally found out who to blame...

It would be better to make them to be able to be unbound by just a regular unbinder not an ABL. Then we might have an Auction house again instead of the Empty house that has replaced it. Not on 1 handed ax over level 50 or crossbow over 50 in Govinda or usable gear on Reni now.Somehow something must be done to get gear back in the Auction Houses.

Well personally in our guild, P-shell pulls have been great, ratio of 2 fail per 10 pulls. Mems on the other hands is and was always horrific, in 5 years i got one good stat from mems and 1 OD piece. POM pieces ratio was about 50%, either OD or good stat, maybe not that STR/PATK or DEX/PATK but good STAM/HP, INT/MATK/INT/STAM, STAM/WIS/STAM/PATK so in all, not that bad.

I think that if they made it so that you could resell them might be a good idea but that will not lower the prices of the good stats in AH.

I just hope they do the server merge and then we will see AH full of stuff people trying to get rid off.

I will say that I haven't bothered farming EoJs for about 2 years now because of the pull/OD rate. I have over 2k mmds on a few alts that I don't really feel like spending cause I know I will get disgusted. I still do shells regularly and have about a 50% pull rate for stats that we need, the OD rate is about 10%. This recent PoM event I had excellent luck pulling OD ring and cape for my mage, od belt, legs, ring, cape for my g/fs' rogue plus very few stats we didn't use/want (probably the bonus luck from the exp event).

I do think this needs a large revamp though, lots of good ideas here, so ill throw one in.... Reduce the number of mems per pull, and/or increase the mems in runs besides hard mode. What is it? Easy 1st boss Pom is 7, and way more on HM (don't know the number off the top of my head)

Drop rate of stats needs to be better across the board though also. I would think they would want us to get stats more regularly.. then we would buy more puris/etc, make new pieces of gear, and in general spend more money.

I don't understand why the "best" rewards from EoJ's have a much worse chance of giving good stats. Looking at RoMwelten, you can get 10 possible stats, only 1 of which is actually decent and 2 being so-so (not sure about ones other than cloth), and the gear didn't look that amazing either. Shouldn't the "best" rewards give something better?

Quoted from "zidlef"

Well personally in our guild, P-shell pulls have been great, ratio of 2 fail per 10 pulls. Mems on the other hands is and was always horrific, in 5 years i got one good stat from mems and 1 OD piece. POM pieces ratio was about 50%, either OD or good stat, maybe not that STR/PATK or DEX/PATK but good STAM/HP, INT/MATK/INT/STAM, STAM/WIS/STAM/PATK so in all, not that bad.

I think that if they made it so that you could resell them might be a good idea but that will not lower the prices of the good stats in AH.

I just hope they do the server merge and then we will see AH full of stuff people trying to get rid off.

Pulled cloth for 3 weeks and never saw an int/ma from shells. I blame Xaldyn for hogging all the int/ma shell stats
I don't think mems even have a chance of giving good stats anymore.

I'll put em all in the AH for ya Noble. help the economy out by buying them from me

"I don't think mems even have a chance of giving good stats anymore."

If they do, it must be a 1 in a million chance

I completely agree that all pulls should be revamped. Stat pulls are way too random, even on hard mode and normal mode stats. Make mems give good stats again, allow a resale for half the cost to pull in case we get a bad stat and ud or even just something we're not looking for, make the pulled gear have a slightly higher rate of OD. An event that let you trade the gear in AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF TIMES for half the cost it was to pull the piece alongside with an abl, puri, rae sale would let them see the effects of if it changed. Making mems drop more from bosses would be really nice, too.

Quoted from "Zerienga"

"I don't think mems even have a chance of giving good stats anymore."

If they do, it must be a 1 in a million chance

I completely agree that all pulls should be revamped. Stat pulls are way too random, even on hard mode and normal mode stats. Make mems give good stats again, allow a resale for half the cost to pull in case we get a bad stat and ud or even just something we're not looking for, make the pulled gear have a slightly higher rate of OD. An event that let you trade the gear in AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF TIMES for half the cost it was to pull the piece alongside with an abl, puri, rae sale would let them see the effects of if it changed. Making mems drop more from bosses would be really nice, too.

They have the possible stats you can pull from mems on RoMwelten, and I didn't see any decent stats in that list.

Yea, I didn't bother checking xD lmao