Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "radeon"

Let's face it, ROM is desolate as f@#%. When you step out into taborea for the first time you might as well be stepping out into antarctica and you have about as much chance of encountering a penguin as another real player. So in the interest of helping out that lone adventurous human in pioneers colony, stouthearted dwarf in yrvandis hollows, and undaunted elf on elven island, how about ROM create a newbies guild where every new player automatically gets put in to. This way they can meet other newbies, exchange info, quest together, and hopefully keep playing ROM. Maybe a GM can be the guild leader and pop in once in a while to answer any questions, give out free statted low lvl gear and supplies to help questing, etc. This is obviously a little late lol but it can't hurt.

Well are you a new person in ROM? i think they would rather hear it from a newbie of that statement. but i could be wrong. but that state is good though.

When was the last time you leveled a character from scratch to cap without having any connections to anyone in the game, Countduke?

Personally, I think this would have been a good idea when the game was first started. Right now, it's too late for this idea to do any good, imo. After all, don't you get quests in the beginning zones to "join" The Silvershadow Adventurers' Guild? Other than it maybe being too late to make a difference in anything, I like this idea.

Quoted from "Zerienga"

When was the last time you leveled a character from scratch to cap without having any connections to anyone in the game, Countduke?

Personally, I think this would have been a good idea when the game was first started. Right now, it's too late for this idea to do any good, imo. After all, don't you get quests in the beginning zones to "join" The Silvershadow Adventurers' Guild? Other than it maybe being too late to make a difference in anything, I like this idea.

never i always had help zer and im not saying newbie guilds are not a bad idea its just like gms will think its to much effort to commit to that. but if the gms are probbally not going to do it have someone that lvl caped and know the quest really well to run a newbie guild

People wanting free statted gear? really? LMAO there are plenty of guilds out there to help out. We had one person a while back in our guild that got kicked out for being annoying as hell. Asking questions every 30 seconds, where is the housemaids?? where is the mailbox?? can i get free gear? can someone help me kill the mushrooms in Howling mountain, etc difference between needing help and being annoying as hell.

A lot of info are available on the forums but people are too lazy to look it up or want the answer NOW. The older guilds have seen more than our share of new players, no patience, beggars, etc. You can't be level 92/92 by begging, work for it and show them you are gonna stay.

Even had one girl in our guild, loaned a TOSH harmode fully statted set +16, i had paid 200M to get it for the setskill, then started with the excuses of a thousand stories why she didn't returned it. I asked politely for 2 months to send it back, then i made a prompt demand and she started swearing at me, kicked her out of the guild for being rude, ungrateful person that she is. Ya i lost the gear that i paid gold for, was trying to help a newbie person and look what i got for it. That is why people are stingy on helping noobs to the game, burn me once and you are gone.

Hard to have confidence on people you don't know over the internet, you got those people who go to games and look for the guilds that help out, get free gear and then once they got it, turn their backs on them and leave with their stuff. We in Disturbed, so many time we made endgame wings for guildies,+16 them, 4 runes slots, gave stats, crafted gear, runes etc, we did it as a guild and had a bank toon just for that. But that ain't happening anymore, not worth it.

Better do alliances with known guilds and run with them then getting frustrating helping people out that you know will just abuse you

I honestly doubt that's how every single person acts. It's kinda like the real world. You have the good-natured people, you have the ill-natured people, you have the idiots, you have the geniuses, you have the people that struggle, you have the people that do well, and i could go on and on and on. But generalizing based off of one or two bad experiences is just being prejudiced, which is wrong no matter how you look at it even though we all do it. Give new people the benefit of the doubt. No one is of the same mold.

Zeri again making assumptions and having to direct you on what i am saying. As being a player here since sept 2009 ( how long you been here? ), i have seen more than my share of said players, not gonna go through all the examples of people who did that to us and other guilds i have been in or else i would have about 40+ to give example off.

I am done and as many others on Reni are, of giving noobs free stuff, let them figure the game out and make the best of it. And if when they reach the higher levels and are still here, then they might be worth it to help out with more stuff.

The reality of society today is people take and backstab you as fast as they can. And yes if people do this, old guild leaders whispers each others to let them know the situation that happened and what has been done, making it hard for them to rip off another person or joining a guild. Just like people buying diamonds from people, getting the IS item and not sending said person the gold, love you Drawnin Those for me are the worst type of players and will be called out for.

So Zerienga go with your one or two bad experiences you assume most of us old players had, i have the right to my prejudice. Spoiled bratz are just that and blame the parents or them for taking everyone else for being dumb enough to care, not anymore.

I dealt with newbie guilds. Bad, bad idea. It's like dumping a bunch of 1st graders into an unsupervised group and expecting them to learn as well as regular school. They don't know what they are doing, they have no gear, no clue what to run and how to run, they can't make gear, progress, etc.

Much like any other larva stage organisms, they need to be guided and raised. That only happens in real guilds. That doesn't mean they have to aim for endgamers guilds, that ends up being frustrating for both newbs and endgamers - but they should always be around people with more experience than them.

No one has a right to be prejudiced about people's personalities without having a previous experience or knowledge of something they've done in the past. But, then it doesn't become prejudice. I honestly don't know and don't care how many bad experiences you had. But, with those 40+ bad experiences in 6 years (an average of 7 bad experiences per year (rounded up) based on the number you gave me), how many good experiences have you had in those 6 years? I'd be willing to bet you that that number is greater than the bad. I've been playing since Summer 2012 and have only had three or four bad experiences with people on RoM. Sure, you may have had more back when RoM was much more popular than it is now, but I would not let experiences with someone from my past affect my actions towards someone I've never met or heard of before. You may call me naïve on that aspect, but it's just the fact that not everyone is the same. Will I get screwed over by people in the future? I would have to guess: yes. Will everyone I encounter in the future act the same? No.

In any event, it's as radeon says. The suggestion was for newbies to be guilded with newbies with a direct link to a gm. If they were to do something like this suggestion in the future, I would rather they made a channel that every guild leader in a server is part of and all new players are automatically placed into that channel until they join a guild.

You are asking for statted free gear from GM's for newbies to the game, HELL NO!!!a let me make another 240 alts and get free gear in that GM guild? do you see the problem with that?

If people have social skill disabilities and cannot ask around for a guild to join, help out etc, why should it befall on the GM's to help? and give them free stuff as well? no no no.

You join a game because you chose to try it, play it and learn it, i started playing at level 1 got all the way through 55/55 on K/P might i had, no help from anyone, then i joined Helpinghands and was on trial membership for 3 months. I got on runs, got setskills and geared up with what i could. Isay the newbies gotta get to level 60/60, get geared and then think about joining a guild and call it home. But too many see shinny stuff, promises from other playesr and guild and jump ship.

Our core members in Disturbed and you got that in Knightshift too, are the same since the beginning, we work hard on our guild, castle, buildings etc to improve the experience of the game for those who join us. Then the newbies don't have to hug the librairy all night and day to keep questing like some people.

Imagine a new player coming to the game and having 16% to 18% riding speed from the start, 5465 PDEF/MDEF, 3677HP/MP, 2732 PATK/MATK, 35% XP/TP/drop rate just from our buff towers. Meaning they would be hard to kill by mobs and make killing better. Making their experience better yes and not having to give back for being able to use them. I don't feel it is fair to our members that worked so hard for it and invest time and money to get it, then have a newbie come along, get to level 85+ and leave for another guild once done. People have no commitment or appartenance to guilds anymore, which is why it makes it difficult for old players to care anymore.

The free low level gear doesn't even have to be good, lol. Even if it's just 6 green stats it will help. And it will also make new players feel welcome in the game. When you help a new player, you shouldn't expect them to give back right away. They're new. They don't know enough in the game to possibly start giving back right away. When teaching someone to swim or ride a bicycle, do you expect them to get it right the first time? No.

Also, if everyone should expect to get something in return for whatever they do, I feel sorry for all the charities in the world. If everyone felt that way, the world would be in a much worse state than it is now. Humans have a natural impulse to help others in need. We have sympathy and empathy. Don't just be selfish.

Well i'll let you have the noobs Zeri that come to the game and you can teach them, when at level 80+ they can whisper us to join the guild. Then you will know how we feel

Quoted from "radeon"

Let's face it, ROM is desolate as f@#%. So in the interest of helping out that lone adventurous human in pioneers colony, stouthearted dwarf in yrvandis hollows, and undaunted elf on elven island, how about ROM create a newbies guild where every new player automatically gets put in to. This way they can meet other newbies, exchange info, quest together, and hopefully keep playing ROM. Maybe a GM can be the guild leader and pop in once in a while to answer any questions. This is obviously a little late lol but it can't hurt.

So in an attempt to redirect and stay on topic of this thread, I edited the original post to reflect on the parts that I agree with. In a way, I do think this idea would be good to implement. I think there are a lot of newcomers who start up and might be deterred by the lack of population. Perhaps make part of the tutorial, specifically when you get your house and mailbox, a chance to join a newbie guild. It could be as simple as a letter in the mailbox asking the person if he or she would like to join said guild. This would allow the new people from all three beginner zones to potentially interact and learn from one another.

I think having a GM leader would be a bit of a stretch in terms of having them deal with day to day activities but perhaps a weekly check up or even monthly just to do some in house cleaning would work.

tl;dr - It gives newcomers the chance to interact with people at their own level and still have the choice to move onto another guild as they progress.

And that's their choice. Also, I never knew you would sink so low as to trying to steal players from other guilds lol

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Perhaps make part of the tutorial

The above Quote is from DonJose. Dwarves don't get the option for the Tutorial when they first start the game. They have the starting quests, but no Tutorial until they go to pioneer's colony where the humans begin.

I also felt that way when I first started, radeon. The only reason I got into a guild when I first started was because my older brother got me into the guild he was in.

Or make a newbie thread with all the info they would need when they firsst start playing the game. Talk about pets, mailboxes, channels and give them each 100 free diamonds for new accounts to encourage them and have easy obtainable gold by selling the diamonds. Then they can get bag stat with gold and will last them till they are level 60 to 70.

The problem is that most players (even older players) don't use forums or look at forums because of people arguing nonsensically.