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Friday, July 3rd 2015, 1:08am

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A lot of people say that hide deserves an adjustement for 4 years + and had proof of it and pics and Fraps too and they never got one except more damage, oh wait forgot this is Rogues of Magic, :beer:

you cry about others whining about nerfs bla bla bla, yet i wonder just how many posts of yours complain about rogues...
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Friday, July 3rd 2015, 1:29am

Cenre you got nothing to add so trying to make yourself look good?? as i said since reading is not your strong suit, the only issue i have with rogues is Hide, they use it at will without cooldowns or GC we all know it, we all experienced it and that is the only thread or issue i've ever had with them.

Have you ever been hit by a Mage/Warden and 20 flames in a row? wardens or warriors stunning you indefinitely, rogues and their shadow prison, but that is fine, that happens to me all the time, you know you can Rez up and go back, stop the QQ and learn to counter it.

Tartax i would love to check out your gear in next siege :rolleyes: don't kill me till i get to you loll. Guildies hate facing guilds where they can't do anything except only dying since you guys are just too OP for most of them, no sense fighting a losing battle 8)

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Friday, July 3rd 2015, 1:39am

so how is your q.q any different to people suggesting changes to k/m that you have been so strong against, insulting anyone who had a different opinion to yours, constantly claiming this class is fine and anyone with an opinion different to yours is clearly just bad at the game, makes me really wonder just how bad you are at it, and Yea, clearly i cant read at all!
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Friday, July 3rd 2015, 2:42am

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Tartax i would love to check out your gear in next siege :rolleyes: don't kill me till i get to you loll. Guildies hate facing guilds where they can't do anything except only dying since you guys are just too OP for most of them, no sense fighting a losing battle 8)

Deal, I will wait for you behind your castle. Just don't bring a K/M to 1 shot me. :stick:

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Friday, July 3rd 2015, 6:11am




Look out for w/wd Serenadae, insane damage with 1h sword+shield and stunlocking to death.

Should show k/m can easily get rekt in sw. It isn't so perfect like on paper.
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Friday, July 3rd 2015, 6:25am

Please keep in mind that Astral is the top guild on Siochain, iirc.
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Friday, July 3rd 2015, 6:27am

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Please keep in mind that Astral is the top guild on Siochain, iirc.

*one of the top guilds
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Friday, July 3rd 2015, 7:15am

Nice Vid. But Kinda Shows How Insane Dmg k/m does. Basically One hits everything lol. If they survive the first hit.
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Friday, July 3rd 2015, 8:03am


Optomistic can u pm me your ign , i would like to inspect ur siege gear* :P

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Friday, July 3rd 2015, 8:23am

Easy way to counter k/m and save your group in siege:
Swap gear as they are about to hit you so the white hit kills you. the full attack will then be redirected at the k/m, killing him and saving your group. :D it's actually pretty easy to pull this off.
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Friday, July 3rd 2015, 1:30pm

looking at mytho's vid and really it only convinces me more of what i was already thinking. hitting ppl for 250k with no burn running. all the death come from been heavily outnumbered or flamespammed. he gets killed only once by serenadae at 19 minutes and the w/wd had all burns running where mythos used nothing, didnt even use strike of punishement, got stun by a knight or he would have still got the kill and he didnt use holy shield that he had available. if you look at the damage input/output, the serenae with ALL buff running including ibw is hitting mythos with no sod for 120k per. meanwhile mythos with not a single burn running is landing 260k full attacks on him. also at 30:30 or so he goes in 1v8 and still manages to take down the 900k hp k/s with healer on him.
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Friday, July 3rd 2015, 3:47pm

Mythomage great video btw, hope that people will be looking at your video to also see that you run with a druid or priest with you most of the time and a rogue i think that was. But seeing how your guildies have your strategy working like a clock it is pretty fun to watch.

I remember the days we had groups like that, so much fun to do siege back in the days.

But a lot of 90K players on the other team just gunning for you, i wonder why they were doing that loll, but i guess strategy wasn't going for them. :(

I remember the days with my K/S and a healer on me 1V8 too and killed them all, but all depends how well you play your class, some will blame it on gear/OP skills/lag/hacks/cheats and then ask for nerfs, sadly rogues are not the best in PvP and they can't accept that, too bad, so sad, NOT.

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Friday, July 3rd 2015, 4:15pm

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*one of the top guilds

nono, We are the top ;) Looking forward to see mytho upload the sw we had last night vs turkspower, was a good fight!

@Pachat, their k/s was pure hp, he had literally no defence, even as m/wd fullbuffed i hit him for 650k flames, hence how mytho was able to kill him easily when 1v8.
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Friday, July 3rd 2015, 5:07pm

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looking at mytho's vid and really it only convinces me more of what i was already thinking. hitting ppl for 250k with no burn running. all the death come from been heavily outnumbered or flamespammed. he gets killed only once by serenadae at 19 minutes and the w/wd had all burns running where mythos used nothing, didnt even use strike of punishement, got stun by a knight or he would have still got the kill and he didnt use holy shield that he had available. if you look at the damage input/output, the serenae with ALL buff running including ibw is hitting mythos with no sod for 120k per. meanwhile mythos with not a single burn running is landing 260k full attacks on him. also at 30:30 or so he goes in 1v8 and still manages to take down the 900k hp k/s with healer on him.
Well I buffed 450k+ pdef with HLD and Serenadae hit me 260k CCs+ I couldn't use holy shield most of the time cause of the stunlock i received from him.
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Saturday, July 4th 2015, 12:08am

So Like, only one person can kill you? Lol

As i said, this proves how k/m is unbalanced. Cause you'll pretty much kill anyone else with a full attack.
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Saturday, July 4th 2015, 1:27am

Anyone remember when honor gear didnt exist and all the non-rogues QQ'd that rogues would just go up in hide and oneshot everyone and that siege was like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH_iU8u4z20

And rogues were like "we're not OP, everyone else in the game just needs to get more skilled, stop crying nerf!"

Somewhat ironic how the situation has reversed lol.

tbh Rogue was probably harder to fight against back then, then it is to fight K/M now.
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Saturday, July 4th 2015, 3:22am

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looking at mytho's vid and really it only convinces me more of what i was already thinking. hitting ppl for 250k with no burn running. all the death come from been heavily outnumbered or flamespammed. he gets killed only once by serenadae at 19 minutes and the w/wd had all burns running where mythos used nothing, didnt even use strike of punishement, got stun by a knight or he would have still got the kill and he didnt use holy shield that he had available. if you look at the damage input/output, the serenae with ALL buff running including ibw is hitting mythos with no sod for 120k per. meanwhile mythos with not a single burn running is landing 260k full attacks on him. also at 30:30 or so he goes in 1v8 and still manages to take down the 900k hp k/s with healer on him.
Well I buffed 450k+ pdef with HLD and Serenadae hit me 260k CCs+ I couldn't use holy shield most of the time cause of the stunlock i received from him.
actually rewatching the replay atm and it says you had 291k pdef, charged chops were hitting for 120k and you got charge stun on the warrior before he got any crowd control on you. you got hit by k/s holy chains followed by charge though and it's what locked you down. pretty pointless to argue about a single play regarless as you went in with no cooldown vs someone fully buffed and deserved to die. kinda scary to think you would have actually got the kill if it wasnt for the k/s crowd control.
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Saturday, July 4th 2015, 4:00am

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So Like, only one person can kill you? Lol

As i said, this proves how k/m is unbalanced. Cause you'll pretty much kill anyone else with a full attack.

Full Attack is basically the counter to people who have a ton of hp. Its a very slow attack that does one big damage amount, instead of several quick attacks that do (still high) damage but not all at once. That's the role k/m plays.

White attacks are not the most reliable things to get off in pvp, it isnt like you can spam them.

Anyone in your guild have range skills, roots, stuns, any form of CC whatsoever? I hear those work well.

Sadly, when rogues complain about a human class that can kill them, it typically gets nerfed (RIP my P/S)
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Saturday, July 4th 2015, 5:33am



To keep this thread and QQing alive :)
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Sunday, July 5th 2015, 5:14pm

thx for SW ;)

K/M is very good in SW, maybe the best if played well. I played against K/M that I kill in seconds and others like you Mytho, that kill me in seconds ;) but we usually counter K/M with P/R and some Wl/Ch (that we were missing this day)... like we did 3 days earlier when fighting against you (Astral) Guys.

looking forward to next SW against u :)

long story short, just designate one priest to run as P/R and remove shield or other buffs from K/M that is causing you a problem. Once done, it's quite easy to kill him in 1-2 shots, also for physical dps.
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