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Sunday, July 5th 2015, 11:36pm

i'd hardly count 30 vs 10 as a real fight 3 days before, but ok ;)

On topic: P/r is nice for k/m yes, or any knight really, issue is that p/r is so squishy its preety useless.
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Monday, July 6th 2015, 12:24am

Quoted from "Cenre"

i'd hardly count 30 vs 10 as a real fight 3 days before, but ok ;)

On topic: P/r is nice for k/m yes, or any knight really, issue is that p/r is so squishy its preety useless.
yes any sieger that is smart would prob go for the p/r first to avoid purge and bc they will be easy kill ^^
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Monday, July 6th 2015, 4:13pm

Well went to siege last knight and removed the dust from my K/S and boy was it fun, one or two shotting rogues, oh a K/M, here's some chains for you. Guess what K/M isn't so OP when they can't move, but i guess that would be too hard for some to learn counters for classes.

Gotta say that was a hell of a siege last night and lots of fun on both sides.

I hate flame SPAM!! can we nerf it? lolll i don't want nerfs, i want people to learn to play more one button mashers, tyvm.

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Monday, July 6th 2015, 5:28pm

Forget Flame spam I kept getting Severed Con spammed D:

Has OP made any headway with k/m's or are they still a mega problem for you?
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Monday, July 6th 2015, 5:56pm

Well R2P didn't want to give them another class that could kill K/M or i would be QQ'ing they don't need to nerf them. we don't want that but looking forward to a rematch with you guys.

I was amazed i got 44 kills to loll, K/S so crappy for siege mouhahaha, just have fun with your classes people.

Gotta put my Fearless runes on for next siege and my new crossbow, omg so many things to upgrade :P

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Monday, July 6th 2015, 7:21pm

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Gotta put my Fearless runes on for next siege

don't bother. fearless runes are next to useless with how resistance works atm.

even 5 fearless 10's, OD, will only give you like 840 elemental resistance, which is laughable.


i'm sorry you actually put resources into making fearless runes :(
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

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Monday, July 6th 2015, 8:08pm

Cike yet again, have you used fearless runes in game on your gear? i got 2 VII and 10 VI in stock. They work fine for me and does give me an edge except against flame span. Even one of our rogues didn't get one shot by mages with 5 on.

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Monday, July 6th 2015, 8:15pm

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Cike yet again, have you used fearless runes in game on your gear? i got 2 VII and 10 VI in stock. They work fine for me and does give me an edge except against flame span. Even one of our rogues didn't get one shot by mages with 5 on.

Making stuff in game is never a waste, it's an experience of patience.

yes, i do. I have a full set in my pvp gear. thats how i can tell you it's a waste. elemental resistance is one of the stupidest combat formulas in this game, period, even more moronic than ranged(yeah, i said it).

any "effect" that you think is happening is nearly absolutely a placebo effect.
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Monday, July 6th 2015, 9:02pm

Fearless II? V?? X??

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Monday, July 6th 2015, 9:11pm

don't remember. will let you know next time i get ingame to check.

that being said though, the level doesn't really matter, as elemental resistance scaling is fundamentally broken.

for reference, unless it was ninja-fixed recently, elemental resistance simply shaves off a flat amount of damage off the top of every hit, and i doubt it's been changed.

damage_taken == damage_incoming - elemental_resist

thats why 800-odd resistance is laughable(and thats with 5 OD fearless 10's). unless you are getting hit for 16k every hit, you are not even getting 5% damage reduction, at the cost of making 5 tier 10 runes of an unpopular(for good reason) type.
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Monday, July 6th 2015, 9:15pm

Won't Save You From K/M Either. =P
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Monday, July 6th 2015, 10:09pm

well i always saw a difference in siege with them or without them myself. Optimistic, maybe when K/M kill you, try to rez faster and not QQ how they hit you and go back to combat helping your guildies. K/M last night in siege got me about 20 times but always took a couple rogues with me at the same time of my death lol. It's a group effort afterall but i guess you just don't have the classes to counter K/M in your guild and asking for a nerf.

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Monday, July 6th 2015, 10:14pm

find a mage, please do tests. post numbers. i would honestly LOVE to see me proven wrong atm. i've found the only way to accurately measure the effect of fearless runes is to use really low lvl chars, as at high levels, even the natural variation in damage is larger than the rune's effect.

you can also test holy chains at the same time.
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mages should stack dex. word.

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Monday, July 6th 2015, 10:37pm

will do and didn't think about holy chains with fearless runes.

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Monday, July 6th 2015, 10:47pm

the flat # thing becomes especially obvious when you get down to really small hits, when the damage is less than your resistance, it will simply be immuned.

(example, you have 400 resistance, something for some reason hits for 300 damage, no more, no less. you will immune 100% of their hits)
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Tuesday, July 7th 2015, 12:15am

Cause with the provided evidence, clearly k/m doesnt need one. :dash:
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Tuesday, July 7th 2015, 12:16am

I say dont nerf k/m because if you do there be no challenge in sw and stuff everyone will be on par with each other. so what is the fun in that?

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Tuesday, July 7th 2015, 1:01am

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Forget Flame spam I kept getting Severed Con spammed D:



it was a fun sw and i learned a couple things too :-) 470k full attack on me but i got a few kills too. i have no pvp gear cept earrings and gloves so not much use other than if i am stunned.
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Tuesday, July 7th 2015, 1:02am

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everyone will be on par with each other

this is the exact point of class balancing.
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Tuesday, July 7th 2015, 1:33am

Sorry for Offtopic.

Quick question about fearless runes... Flame Towers must do damage in order to add Fear effect. Would enough fire resist make for a permanent immune vs flame towers? (and therefore, no fear effect?)

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