Runes of Magic US / AU

First off, good on ya Zid for trying to find ways to help alleviate this wretchedly outdated system of guild enhancement and progression. Maybe back when RoM was still a popular game and had plenty of players the endless grind of mats by more than a dozen or so players made it less daunting. As it is now, this is yet another glaring reminder of how far the managers of this game remain out of touch with their player base. Just look at the other active post about quest boards. So many things that COULD be fixed simply by adjusting the values to bring them more inline with the level cap and level of player activity and yet here we are....

As it stands, IMO the small changes like the one you suggest, while well meaning, do nothing other than try to shore-up the sinking ship. What is needed is a total overhaul of the approach, tying more rewards to the activities of the guild as a guild and not the individual contributor. Guild mats, etc. should be tied into guild achievements so that every time your guild completes and instance as a guild for example they would get guild mats as a reward. That would make it at least similar to what players receive now just for showing up to siege (even that is really a minute amount compared to the what higher level building refinements actually cost).

Anyway, that's my rant so I'll jump off the soap box now. I originally thought to just jump on to show my support of Zid's idea so...I'll just say sorry about the rant to anyone who actually reads this exercise in futility.

add a bag with another couple stacks of tools in the guild shop for some currency?

Quoted from "Tuulikki"

What is needed is a total overhaul of the approach, tying more rewards to the activities of the guild as a guild and not the individual contributor. Guild mats, etc. should be tied into guild achievements so that every time your guild completes and instance as a guild for example they would get guild mats as a reward.

I don't think this is a good idea. What if your guild loses many players (as most guilds already have) and can't do much? This just creates another symptom of the same problem of so many people having quit, and it won't solve anything.

add tools as rewards from the guild quests.

2 birds, 1 stone.

Quoted from "radeon"

Quoted from "Tuulikki"

What is needed is a total overhaul of the approach, tying more rewards to the activities of the guild as a guild and not the individual contributor. Guild mats, etc. should be tied into guild achievements so that every time your guild completes and instance as a guild for example they would get guild mats as a reward.

I don't think this is a good idea. What if your guild loses many players (as most guilds already have) and can't do much? This just creates another symptom of the same problem of so many people having quit, and it won't solve anything.

I don't understand your rationale. If players gain more guild mats, etc. based on guild activity then they gain more when the guild gains more. As it is now, the guild gains nothing no matter what achievements are accomplished and players either achieve marginal gains from showing up to siege or have to grind a lot to get anywhere. In other words, there is really everything to gain and nothing to lose.

As for what it solves I would think it is self-evident. Guilds that are rewarded by doing more things together will seek to do more things together. If they find they don't have the people they will see an advantage to recruiting more people. Smaller guilds might even start to consider merging to become larger guilds. Larger guilds will have the people to at least attempt to run more instances, etc, etc.

I realize many RoM players have a love affair with creating very small guilds and keeping to themselves but maybe a few less 200 point siege guilds and a couple more 2k ones might shake things up a bit and help the game survive long enough to see the server mergers?

Its been said population is low. Unless guilds merge most anyone already has a guild. I would say just offer a bit more when gathering tho in my opinion its not needed.

What if..........

... as you gather on field/forge/lumberyard every gather you do tics off the same resource to the guild bank? Make it same level mat as a) the toon or 2) the lvl of the toon's processing?

... the level of mats gatherable from castles are raised?

And, I like the idea of being able to purchase new tools w/ honor badges.

That would break it if it was by the ammount of toons processing do you have any idea how many toons zid would have online in the castle? I would lag out the second I entered. A bit overkill.

Can we currently gather lvl 85 resources, or does it stop somewhere around lvl 40? That's what I mean by raising lvl of mats farmed.