Came back to retry the game and found it disappointing

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Tuesday, December 22nd 2015, 3:21am

I tried this game out way back in the days, I want to say perhaps a year after it was released and played for maybe 3 weeks or so.
Having some time on my hands I wanted to revisit in the hopes that some of the bugs I encountered had been abolished. Let me just start out by saying I give most games a good chance when I play them and sometimes, like in this case, I give games time to maybe get it fixed and I retry them. So how was my experience after returning and playing a bit?

Years ago I went into I believe it was Moonrage? I probably have this wrong but its the cave next to the starter town and there is a bunch of small slithering monsters. Anyways years ago this place was riddled with terrain bugs and you couldn't target anything at all. Even if you was right in front of the target you had to find weird angles to even fight the thing. Just very annoying to say the least. I would imagine this being a starting zone, where new and returning players get the initial taste and first impressions that annoying things like this would get fixed. I come back years later and the cave is just as bad if not worse than before. Like wow talk about not caring about a product at all and telling new people "hey it is what it is deal with it". This right here pretty much told me how the rest of the zone are going to be without even trying the other zones.

It is somewhat frustrating to enjoy some things about the game like the 2 classes and skill combinations. The quest dialog in most quest are nicely done and somewhat funny. I really enjoy a lot of aspects of the game but why can't you guys fix these annoying terrain and targeting bugs? Just make the starting experience more appealing for the first timers so they don't encounter this stuff along the way. I find myself same place as years ago, wanting to play the game but not if its still riddled with the same exact problems of years and years ago. I guess that is all to say for now, just hope one day ya can clean up the game to show you care a little about it.

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ancientgear

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Tuesday, December 22nd 2015, 4:07am

ehh just tab through them. You don't need to manually target them with your cursor, tabbing will target which ever mob is closest to you.

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speedy07

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Tuesday, December 22nd 2015, 7:35am

Who mentioned anything regarding tab targeting? The bug in the cave near that place I mentioned is about terrain. Whether you target with tab or manually doesn't matter. It will keep saying the same error message over and over until you are placed in a fighting position that the system doesn't consider a terrain bug. Problem is that whole cave is riddles with bugs. Advice you to go and see for yourself rather than say "ehh just tab through them"

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Tuesday, December 22nd 2015, 8:11am

Not a day goes by without dozens of people starting world chat drama over Moongorge newts. It's quite a bone of contention. Heck, we almost had civil war between pronewtants and antinewtants.

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Tuesday, December 22nd 2015, 12:29pm

So i went inside the cave leading to moongorge today, cleared all the way upto moongorge, i dont get what the issue is lol. I didn't get any error message or had to change my view or anything to attack, whether it was tab targetting or manually clicking the mob. Got ravenour kalod card tho. :phatgrin:

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Tuesday, December 22nd 2015, 2:26pm

I believe he's talking about the very old bug of LoS (Line of Sight), seriously, haven't been fixed yet. This bug if you have a leaf of grass between you and your target you get the error he's describing.

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Tuesday, December 22nd 2015, 11:54pm

Almost makes me want to start a P/S thread now pouhahahaha!!!! if the only thing preventing you from playing the game is LOS issues? pouhahaha probably won't like the ice bridge in Merdhin Tundra, Korum dome hahaha. Or even Puzzle mountain.

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Wednesday, December 23rd 2015, 12:27am

OP makes a valid point.

that cave is notorious for having horrid LoS issues, especially with ranged classes. then consider the fact that it's essentially the first "instance" you experiance (yes, i know the actual instance itself has no LoS issues, only the cave).

my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Wednesday, December 23rd 2015, 4:18pm

Try mage when the only attack skill you know on that level is Flame. Seriously, I'm away since lvl cap was 82 on Sarlo and I see Gameforge is still running ruinning this game.

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Wednesday, December 23rd 2015, 6:34pm

Quoted from "Murkalael"

Try mage when the only attack skill you know on that level is Flame. Seriously, I'm away since lvl cap was 82 on Sarlo and I see Gameforge is still running ruinning this game.

so you left the game at 82 cause you couldn't move forward? pouhahaha, Gameforge has done more for the game than Frogster ever did. Not their fault people can't play the game, you have LOS issues?? find a solution yourself instead of waisting time on the forums, mobe a little to the left or the right. Gotta love these people and they say i am a troll, righhhttt.

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Wednesday, December 23rd 2015, 8:33pm

Haha, not real, I reached 82/82 with or without los bugs, but I left due the huge ammount of bugs. Just beeing friendly with fellow player and pointing what he was complaining. You might remember this:

Malatina Curse Of Terror

And now that I decided to give it a try, again stuck with a bug, that I can't seem to find the right answer:

Questchain problem?

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Wednesday, December 23rd 2015, 8:35pm

well all those were fixed ;-)

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Wednesday, December 23rd 2015, 9:25pm

Hello Mr. Speedy07. Basically that low level place in particular is very affected by LoS issues. The rest of the game is not THAT bad. So just skip it and don't worry about it.

Quoted from "vfwiffo"

Not a day goes by without dozens of people starting world chat drama over Moongorge newts. It's quite a bone of contention. Heck, we almost had civil war between pronewtants and antinewtants.

A new player, which we sorely need, comes to the game and his first experience was bad and seeks information on the forums and you couldn't help yourself but leave a useless comment. Would've been better if you didn't post at all. There's nothing worse than a condescending midgamer. Stop being so toxic please. If you're not going to help just don't post.

Quoted from "ancientgear"

So i went inside the cave leading to moongorge today, cleared all the way upto moongorge, i dont get what the issue is lol. I didn't get any error message or had to change my view or anything to attack, whether it was tab targetting or manually clicking the mob. Got ravenour kalod card tho.

Maybe you got lucky. Issue is there though, specially on Moongorge.

Quoted from "Murkalael"

I believe he's talking about the very old bug of LoS (Line of Sight), seriously, haven't been fixed yet. This bug if you have a leaf of grass between you and your target you get the error he's describing.

True, legitimate complaint. Even in endgame instance the person with LoS just gets bottom scrut and we poke fun at them but there are times we wipe with boss at low health for a stupid LoS issue.

Quoted from "zidlef"

Almost makes me want to start a P/S thread now pouhahahaha!!!! if the only thing preventing you from playing the game is LOS issues? pouhahaha probably won't like the ice bridge in Merdhin Tundra, Korum dome hahaha. Or even Puzzle mountain.

Everyone left playing the games loves it. We view everything through rose-tinted glasses. Crashing, LoS issues, everything else we're just used to it. Jaded. This is not something a new person will just shrug off when looking for a new game. So yeah, it's not dumb to want issues fixed.

Quoted from "Cike"

OP makes a valid point.

that cave is notorious for having horrid LoS issues, especially with ranged classes. then consider the fact that it's essentially the first "instance" you experiance (yes, i know the actual instance itself has no LoS issues, only the cave).

Totally. This is one of the first RoM experiences for new players. Who knows how many quit after their adventures there. One actually cared enough to ask on forums and just look at the responses they got... makes me sick.

Quoted from "zidlef"

Not their fault people can't play the game, you have LOS issues?? find a solution yourself instead of waisting time on the forums, mobe a little to the left or the right. Gotta love these people and they say i am a troll, righhhttt.

Asking for an issue with the game to be fixed on the forums is not a waste of time. You're one of the people that always chastise players for not visiting forums then someone comes and... wait, you know what? THIS is a waste of time and effort lol... so I'll just stop.

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Thursday, December 24th 2015, 12:42am

Magio it is a returning player if you would have read it, also complaining as to Howling mountains has LOS, meaning mainly they never actually leveled and comes back to complain about the same issues we all had for 7 years. This post is more like a post a person would make to troll us and i guess you got us yet again seeing the length of your responses.

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Thursday, December 24th 2015, 1:54am

And if you read it, he said he played for 3 weeks before quitting the first time. Sounds like a pretty new player to me, returning or not. Specially after he quit for a long time and came back to retry the game. Either way main point still stands: Someone came on the forums with a legitimate complaint and people couldn't just give a straight answer/advice.

Also, why does it matter whether they leveled or not? It was a new player who quit after experiencing a broken game... nothing out of the ordinary there. You can't expect everyone to just put up with RoM's bs.

For the xth time... just because a problem persists for a long time doesn't mean it doesn't need to be fixed. Yes we all put up with the broken stuff, but think about new players trying the game. Which would be a miracle tbh since who knows how the hell they even found RoM as something new to try out.

Your accusation is absurd to say the least and I'll leave it at that.

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Thursday, December 24th 2015, 3:31am

Well there is still an issue in moongorge.
I can see how this is frustrating for a new player.
I would suggest to ask in game for some help for that or just skip it the following zone is better than that .
Now for every single troll post I read....... I suggest taking a good look at EXACTLY what you wrote in response to a valid question that is still an issue today.
And then maybe just maybe you will see part of reason we don't have new players for long.
Coal for all of you and Zid maybe you forgot your meds.

To the op please don't let a few forums trolls discourage you........if you are on Mithras message me if you need help.
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