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Thursday, May 19th 2016, 5:30pm

Do you think we should have an item shop with all items available all the time

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Do you think we should have an item shop with all items available all the time

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Thursday, May 19th 2016, 5:34pm

If that means we get to buy +20 jewels without having to go through the wheel hell yes
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Thursday, May 19th 2016, 5:34pm

Absolutely, it makes no sense to keep backpack slots, class expansion tickets, etc etc hidden away from us. Sure, keep the special event items away until the right time but not the other stuff.

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Thursday, May 19th 2016, 5:36pm

I'm trying to think of a reason why they don't have items full price in the shop all the time. They of course still have their sales on specific items. It limits the people who cannot get on at certain times and buy that big ticket item that people have been waiting for weeks/months. ie class expansion tickets
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Thursday, May 19th 2016, 5:37pm

SPecial/ daily/weekend sales should be a price reduction, a special item/mount/wings etc in my vue

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Thursday, May 19th 2016, 6:07pm

Among the items that should be available for dias or rubies all the time would be the +20 jewels, perfect versions of all jewels(advanced, enhanced, etc), and the daily quest xp/tp potions (20% and 50 on both as well as 20/50 on talent only).

And for goodness' sake, lower the failure rate on all plussers and limit the number of successive fail drops. I plus in my house but I still get 8-7-8-7-8-7-8-9-8-7-8 etc...I buy my diamonds with real cash and I worked out that it costs well over $10 to plus one item to 16. That's excessive.

Also, fix the stacking issue. Identical items should stack together. And make it easier to buy multiple quantities of the same items, rather than only allow 1-5-10 etc. Allow us to type in "4" when we want 4 of an item, and have them go to just one slot - an existing one if you already have some of the item.

Otherwise, especially when we are playing the wheel the item shop backpack fills up very quickly and then backlogs, making continued play a problem.

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Thursday, May 19th 2016, 6:28pm

Yes have every item needed for sale all the time, then have discounted sales... No need for cosmetic costumes out of season though
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Thursday, May 19th 2016, 8:08pm

I voted yes, however I do think that some of the non-vital seasonal items should be kept seasonal.
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Thursday, May 19th 2016, 8:29pm

Well CIKE festival items are festival items but as for the rest, it should be all in there.

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Thursday, May 19th 2016, 9:03pm

Yeah I would've thought special items (festivals, holidays, etc.) would be exempted from this petition by using common sense. But then again... thanks Cike for reminding us we have to be more specific with our suggestions.

+1 btw.
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Thursday, May 19th 2016, 9:31pm

o no a GM said no!!! what ever shall we dooooooo
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Thursday, May 19th 2016, 10:28pm

Amoung the items in the shop all the time should be transformation pots!!!! Gingerbread, giant gingerbread, snowmen, donnies, ect!
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Friday, May 20th 2016, 5:40am

There was a famous marketing debacle in the US where J C Penney tried a policy of low prices all the time rather than having sales. It was legendarily unpopular.

https://hbr.org/2013/10/stop-being-fooled-by-list-prices/

It's unlikely the item shop would do as well for RoM without the artificial urgency of limited-time discounts/availability.

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Friday, May 20th 2016, 12:16pm

Meh I actually voted no, I think the shop is fine how it is if they just adjust a few things.

More variety in sales
Put +20 stones in a sale(at least once a month)
Put the full cleaner into itemshop perma same as abls
Increase the amount of mounts in the itemshop
Add costumes back

After this I think that we don't really need anything else in the shop added perma, would just be like the old age shop but with abls and cleaners inside always.
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Friday, May 20th 2016, 3:55pm

Cenre that is the issue, we get no variety in sales, got new item shop, they said we would get new sales, items and easier for them to do it, look at all the rinse and repeat sales since the new item shop.

BTW look at this weekend sale HAHAHAHA at least having all items there we wouldn't need a SALES MANAGER since they ain't doing their job anyways. We get no more daily sales or when we do it just seems they hit the wrong button in their sales app.

I am sorry but i have been trying to remain positive, helpful etc but i have had enough with the excuses. GM's do all they can but Gameforge are as blind and deaf as ever. Nothing changes apart the type of excuses they come up in their brainstorming meeting.

Gameforge, do you wonder why people stops playing still? incompetence, utter lack of listening to the community and simply not caring about the game anymore.

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Saturday, May 21st 2016, 2:20am

this might be met with some harsh criticism, but here goes:

GF is not some guy in his basement making arbitrary decisions. GF is an international company who would not still be around (and promoting new content, across all their games) if they were as inept as we on the RoM forums suggest. What we have to acknowledge is the fact that we are a vocal minority of players, using anecdote and conjecture to jump to conclusions. GF is the one that has their financials and player statistics. i am fairly certain they actually have somebody that most likely is some sort of competent in their field (marketing/sales) running things from behind the scenes, using data that we, as the players, are not privy to.


if you really want to change anything, then the silent majority of the players must change their playstyle such that it appears in previously mentioned data. it doesn't matter if 10 people complain about an item when 100 people buy it regularly.


TL;DR: your best shot at changing anything is to appeal to the players and get them to adjust, such that GF sees financial benefit in changing their methods.
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Saturday, May 21st 2016, 4:39am

In response Gameforge is a huge cooperation which has many many games of those ROM is only a very very small old part. Their staff is responsible for many games each. Their large games carry the small ones like ROM. When there is a problem the decisions are based on the whole organization system not an individual game. It is very unlikely that there is any staff that have ever played ROM other than the GMs . The concept that there are any staff members who play ROM or who have ever played ROM who use that knowledge to design our shop and sales probably has no basis. The staff members are employees who probably are so tired of games that when they leave work that they have a far healthier way of relaxing. The item shop is just a copy of they want for the item shops used in their other games; it was not designed individually for ROM but as a basis for what they will do in their more profitable games which have far different needs than the players in ROM does. This is a test that they didn't want to risk on their other games for fear of alienating the players of those games. It is not that they dislike us or are inept but that there are other priorities that take place first. We are at the wrong end of a very long line.

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Saturday, May 21st 2016, 5:56am

o no a GM said no!!! what ever shall we dooooooo
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Saturday, May 21st 2016, 5:04pm

There should absolutely be all items in the item shop at full price. A lot of people here aren't able to log in during those happy hour sales because life gets in the way. I'd rather pay full price for something if I want/need it than wait for a chance to buy it on sale months down the road or not even be able to buy it at all.

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Saturday, May 21st 2016, 5:12pm

Well at least all items could be available all the time at regular price, then you have daily sales, weekend sales, special sale of the month etc but players that really want or need an item and willing to pay top diamond for it, could still get it. Now all we get is rinse and repeat old sales from 6 years ago, no imagination or innovation. But in my opinion that is what drove the game into the ground, no more promos, no sales worth while getting excited about, no free wings!!! cheap mounts, grand golden repair hammers, permanent backpack spaces, no more extra TP on quests events. But we do get excuses, we're sorry, we're working on it, all the time tho. Gameforge just doesn't care about what the community is saying anymore.

Cike, btw, stop making excuses for the item shop person, we know that person doesn't play ROM or probably never heard of it, we know. When you do sales only by numbers, percentages etc cause it looks like revenue are doing well, you don't listen to the community, hence they don't care. Imagine if they took the time to look at the items players have been asking for, for 2 years and put them in IS, revenues would have gone up 200%. But now people are tired of spending money on stuff they hope to get but will never get again.

RUSTYX for shop manager 2016!!!!!!! Make ROM great again!!!!!!!

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