Runes of Magic US / AU

It may be time to up the elite skills. I would like to see level 80 elites that cause you to re-think your statting and/or skills rotations. For example, Knight/Rogue already has a skill that causes Shadowstab to use Stamina as a damage multiplier instead of dexterity. If the opposite side (Rogue/Knight), had a skill that changed all attack damage to use stamina as a damage multiplier instead of dexterity, you could build a r/k that would be more useful in instance runs. These rogues, in leather, would be able to take more boss damage AND mob damage in hard-mode instance runs, and maybe would reduce the dependence on buff-alts that sit outside the instance and buff when you run back out.

Similarly rogue/mage could make use of the mage fireballs if it used dexterity as a damage multiplier. You would not necessarily want to change all the skills, just the mage general skills when you are on rogue primary. Or something else that would make mage general skills more useful on rogue side. Yeah, I know, r/m is already pretty effective, but if the fireball were able to keep up with things like Throw, it would be nice. Or maybe Fireball would have initial damage that it has now , but a bleed-type DOT that is calculated using dexterity, with a tick every 2 seconds for 12 or 14 seconds, starting with second 2(no initial bleed damage, only the damage over time)with DOT damage calculated by dexterity.

And just as wd/w and W/K can wear plate, Rogue/Warrior, Rogue/Warden or rogue/champion that could wear chain, would give DPS with more durability.

I am using Rogues as examples because that is mostly what I play.

Quoted from "Sebkha"

Elite skills are the tool the game designers have for balancing the class combinations

I beg to disagree, Seb. Elite skills aren't for class balancing as much as for class-combo distinction. A priest/warrior is a whole different animal than a priest/mage, priest/rogue, or pretty much priest/anything else, and the differences are amplified by the elite skills.

As i mostly play rogues, again I will rely on my experience here. My r/m used to be fun in siege because I could sit on a bridge in hide mode and drop traps when the enemy was trying to cross. Then i would have the enemy damaged and suffering a 10-second stun. Back then they were not a popular combo to play, because the elites didn't seem particularly effective for instances. Now all the r/s toons have rolled to r/m for the new elites which massively increase DPS in a boss fight. A ranged AoE, a local AoE and a 30-second AoE are pretty awesome, especially when combined with Enchanted Throw, which I never turn off unless I switch to m/r. But now, if you want other rogue classes to "class balance", something needs to be offered to hold up on that fire power. r/w in chain, or r/k statting stam without losing damage, those things would help.

A rogue/mage with a more useful fireball would "balance" the other combo's like wd/w and w/wd that are able to effectively use the general skills of their secondary.

So yeah- I guess for balancing class combos, the level 80 elites for rogues that I am suggesting would help balance. Thanks for the reinforcing input.

Quoted from "Sebkha"

Anyone want to list the red-headedest stepchildren of RoM class combinations, and how to bring them up to viability?

K/P. Not enough aggro to tank. Not enough healing for support. Not enough damage for DPS. Mine only gets invited when someone wants the buff.

And every time I go looking to get my r/m into a mentos run, someone wants me to bring my m/wl instead (for the boss de-buff). The rogue ranks in the 70's on server for dex and has a tier 12 level 97 OD dagger(bought with mentos, and I may stat it over at next level cap for my mage side's off-hand). It takes almost 500 diamonds on the wheel just to reach level 3 where the tempered jewels are, and then you can't even control what you get, so +16 is my ceiling unless GF puts them on a weekend sale or someone is volunteering to refine Grumpmama's dagger for me. At least the ones on the wheel are "perfect", but still- I think that arrangement is NUTS!

Quoted from "pachat93"

ps if you want to run your rogue then dual box and use a macro for your m/wl. we rarely have a real player doing the m/wl in our runs.

The m/wl boss debuff doesn't last long enough for you to use it then switch characters, You have to keep tossing one of the two skills that cause it and then only lasts... I don't remember... 10 seconds? 15 seconds?... each time it hits. So you stay on the midget and keep flaming. As fast as it cools down, do it again. I am not smart enough to build a robo-macro, and it would probably fringe on botting.