Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "timthum"




well as for ud gear maybe just maybe we could get gameforge to put http://www.rom-welten.de/database/?r=1vbz

into the shop.

while similar to plussing it can make ud gear od if you had enough of them.

gf sells these in item shop for dias and guess what..... more dias bought from gf.

these items have been in the database for some time now and have yet to make it into the item shop.

they also look to come in perfect type too.

http://www.rom-welten.de/database/?r=2b78

maybe this could solve the whole ud vs od stuff.


We got the statement form Frogster about how now that wonderful new item shop made it possible for them to run the shop for themselves without any outside interference. Well here is the perfect opportunity. The item is there and waiting all they have to do is to flip one switch.
If they wanted this to happen they could make it happen at any time at no cost or effort. They just don't want it to happen.

aardvark, you are so out of touch with the game it is inconceivable, Frogster has been purchased by GAMEFORGE 4 years ago. So whatever statement you got from FROGSTER must have been on the planet Zerglotz.

Frogster, Gameforge it is all the same to us. It doesn't matter who is making the decisions. Whoever it is doesn't want the item in the shop. Gamester made the statement when the messed up the item shop and made it a long trip to find a vendor to use tokens to buy anything. Instead of just using them to purchase stuff in the item shop in a nice easy manner like it use to be.

As for the comment on people not minding paying a little more for UD gear in the shop, it is impossible to say that because no one has put the UD gear in the Auction House because of the price of the ABLs to unbind it. Which makes it too expensive to buy and maintain. It is impossible for people to buy the UD gear for any price because no one sells it. It is always stoned out of just sold to the merchants.

People would be far more likely to make farm runs in instances with UD gear to get gear to sell in the Auction house if they could sell it for a profit. A UD piece could easily sell for up to 5 million . However the price of the ABL makes it unsellable. There is no point to running an instance if all you get is UD items that need to be unbound to sell. IF you run instances with UD gear The cost of repairing and rehammering your gear would exceed the price you could sell the gear for after paying for the ABLs.

How many pieces of UD gear have you unbound and sold in the Auction Hours? I have never seen any. Is it that people just can't profit from selling it or is it because they don't want anyone else to have good enough gear to challenge them or run instances? The elite few always want to remain the elite few. Others see no purpose in selling items at a loss. Both are valid reasons. But if you want more people to play the game you have to make it easier. That means finding some way to enable people to get the highest level gear without spending a fortune or endless hours running the game.

This is just my own opinion, but I also think even if players were to have easier ways to get the highest level gear they still wouldn't be able to run the latest instances. Why? Because there's just not enough capable players in this game anymore. OMG Maimed that's such an elitist way of thinking. Right...but that doesn't change the fact that the game's population is so small and all the players who are able to run the hard mode instances (on Mithras) are in one of two guilds. So why don't we just pug and teach people right? Good luck finding players (on Mithras) who are willing to put in effort and learn how to effectively play their role that aren't already in one of the two guilds that actually try to run stuff. If anything making hard mode gear easier to get will only help those already farming it just as Tienkeem previously mentioned. Why do people need the latest gear to run the instances when you should be using gear from the previous level cap to run it. Gear and stats aren't gonna solve a player's inability to run. A lot of our guild members use old gear to run things like Madro, Ravenheart, and Vale of Rites. What I'm saying basically is people need to show incentive to run and easily obtainable gear should not be what drives that. Do people not want to experience the feeling of winning a roll on a piece of gear from the latest instance?

The gear differences between the old standards of plus 12, plus 16 and plus 20 and the tiering of gear between 9 and 12 etc. create such a difference in damage, damage resistance and health the it is not proportional it is logarithm. The difference is so great that people at the top can not even see or realize what it is. Yet none of the old gear at + 20 or tier 12 ever appears in the Auction house it is hoarded . That is why you need new better gear to be available to all the players to mitigate somewhat the differences between what the majority of people can afford to spend to upgrade the gear and those who can spend unlimited amounts. Those who have the gear do not sell it when they upgrade. We all have seen in the game and in the forums bragging of multiple sets of maxed out gear. That is why they can find no one to run the instances with them they have not put their old gear in the Auction House. It is the same old story people who spent hundreds of millions of gold or their equivalent in diamonds are not willing to put it in the Auction House when they upgrade for 50 million or less. But are willing to let it sit in their inventory until it becomes totally worthless. Then wonder why no one has good enough gear to run with them in the instances. I recently upgraded the ax on one of my characters I had spent almost 300 million gold to get it upgraded to a reasonable level but I put it in the Auction House and was only able to get 15 million for it but someone now has a better weapon and can play more of the game. If everyone was doing that there would be a lot more players in the game. Instead people have tons of gear rotting in their inventories that will be worthless with the next area and level caps rather than swallow their pride and help other players. That is why there has to be an easier way to get the newest gear to somewhat make more of the game available to more players.

Quoted from "aardvark3"

The gear differences between the old standards of plus 12, plus 16 and plus 20 and the tiering of gear between 9 and 12 etc. create such a difference in damage, damage resistance and health the it is not proportional it is logarithm. The difference is so great that people at the top can not even see or realize what it is.

Quoted from "aardvark3"

Yet none of the old gear at + 20 or tier 12 ever appears in the Auction house it is hoarded . That is why you need new better gear to be available to all the players to mitigate somewhat the differences between what the majority of people can afford to spend to upgrade the gear and those who can spend unlimited amounts. Those who have the gear do not sell it when they upgrade. We all have seen in the game and in the forums bragging of multiple sets of maxed out gear. That is why they can find no one to run the instances with them they have not put their old gear in the Auction House. It is the same old story people who spent hundreds of millions of gold or their equivalent in diamonds are not willing to put it in the Auction House when they upgrade for 50 million or less. But are willing to let it sit in their inventory until it becomes totally worthless. Then wonder why no one has good enough gear to run with them in the instances. I recently upgraded the ax on one of my characters I had spent almost 300 million gold to get it upgraded to a reasonable level but I put it in the Auction House and was only able to get 15 million for it but someone now has a better weapon and can play more of the game. If everyone was doing that there would be a lot more players in the game. Instead people have tons of gear rotting in their inventories that will be worthless with the next area and level caps rather than swallow their pride and help other players. That is why there has to be an easier way to get the newest gear to somewhat make more of the game available to more players.

1. Nobody t12's their gear, not even close.
2. Tiering gear gives a linear increase, not a logarithmic increase.
3. A logarithmic relationship is LESS than a linear relationship, not more. A plot of log x vs x is shown below. The rate of change of log x quickly approaches 0 even for small values of x, so if it really were logarithmic, then the difference would be even smaller, essentially nil. Complaining that it is logarithmic and not linear makes absolutely no sense if you think the difference is too big.
4. Like people in VvV already said, the 85 - 90 sets are still what people are using. The same situation on Erebos. Not a single person on Erebos right now has the lv 92 or 95 hardmode set, and nobody that I know of has completed their lv 97 OD set yet.

Quoted from "aardvark3"

The gear differences between the old standards of plus 12, plus 16 and plus 20 and the tiering of gear between 9 and 12 etc. create such a difference in damage, damage resistance and health the it is not proportional it is logarithm. The difference is so great that people at the top can not even see or realize what it is. Yet none of the old gear at + 20 or tier 12 ever appears in the Auction house it is hoarded . That is why you need new better gear to be available to all the players to mitigate somewhat the differences between what the majority of people can afford to spend to upgrade the gear and those who can spend unlimited amounts. Those who have the gear do not sell it when they upgrade. We all have seen in the game and in the forums bragging of multiple sets of maxed out gear. That is why they can find no one to run the instances with them they have not put their old gear in the Auction House. It is the same old story people who spent hundreds of millions of gold or their equivalent in diamonds are not willing to put it in the Auction House when they upgrade for 50 million or less. But are willing to let it sit in their inventory until it becomes totally worthless. Then wonder why no one has good enough gear to run with them in the instances. I recently upgraded the ax on one of my characters I had spent almost 300 million gold to get it upgraded to a reasonable level but I put it in the Auction House and was only able to get 15 million for it but someone now has a better weapon and can play more of the game. If everyone was doing that there would be a lot more players in the game. Instead people have tons of gear rotting in their inventories that will be worthless with the next area and level caps rather than swallow their pride and help other players. That is why there has to be an easier way to get the newest gear to somewhat make more of the game available to more players.

Endgame blaming... again.

+20 on Rings and Necklace and Weapon is a big difference, everything else not so much. It's hard to get, specially for a lot of us being mostly F2P. That's why we don't sell that shi those items. If anything we restat them.

Idk what server you play on, but I just sold 2 T12 +20 weapons after advertising them for a week or two. One being as recent as a HM Lv97 Wand. No, it wasn't freaking 50m or less... so there's people willing to pay what something is worth and then there's people like you who apparently expect free handouts. Other people upgrading weapons in Mithras are doing the same. So things are out there.

Who has tons of gear rotting in their inventories? lmfao. You mean like fully statted gear? It was already mentioned before, we're clearing with old af gear.

By using older gear don't forget people save the costs of having to redo the +16 to +20 if they are already at that. I did it with a couple pieces of gear and got 3 more to go since they all +18 already, clean them out, tier it 1 or 2 level higher and voila works for me and makes it cheaper in the end.

play smart