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Friday, March 31st 2017, 1:29pm

Plus 20 Armor and Weapon Jewels

This might have already been said but by briefly browsing through some previous thread titles I haven't seen a recent post dedicated to this matter. Plus 20 is a very expensive and hated feature of the game at the moment mostly due to the rng factor of the wheel. Some people are able to get lucky with it while others (and by others I mean the majority of people who roll) get bad luck. As of the last couple months, the new laggy item shop and the wheel are two major turn-offs for many players and have actually driven people away from the game.

The suggestion is to continue in following the footsteps of the plus 20 accessory jewels in the actual item shop, and include that for armor and weapon and even possibly including perfect plus 20s (at a higher price obviously). Since the plus 20 accessory jewels are at 299 dias, maybe make armor at 399 and weapon at 499 (price approximations, not saying these values should be final) while keeping the wheel and gashas in there. The suggestion is not to remove the wheel and rng sales (because there will always be people who want to gamble for a chance of getting jewels for a lower price through the wheel) but to implement the accessibility of permanent jewels in the item shop to cater towards the people who don't want to face wheel rng when upgrading. To increase the appeal of the wheel, maybe put perfect plussers on there if not for a higher fixed price in the actual item shop.

Right now, it is extremely aggravating for both the f2p players and paying players to plus 20 because the free players first need to find someone who buys dias to spin the wheel or have already spun for them, normally causing much difficulty for the spinner because of horrible rng rates, and then proceed to trade their actual gear to the spinner for them to plus up, again facing rng for the paying player. There are so many rng factors that the diamond buyer has to face that many of them are discouraged from even using the wheel at this point, and the problems of trust and scamming arise because of the gear trade.

tl;dr Read the post because the points make sense, but otherwise: If the plus 20s for armor and weapon types were available in the actual item shop at a fixed price (like accessory), it will honestly increase transaction activity in game between players as it eliminates a lot of rng bs and will create a better opportunity for both f2p and p2p players to upgrade, encouraging people to actually spend more on the game.
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This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Radium" (Mar 31st 2017, 1:35pm)


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Friday, March 31st 2017, 3:44pm

+1. I'd drop a hundred if the jewels were added to the item shop. I'm never spinning the wheel again.
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Friday, March 31st 2017, 9:14pm

+1. I'd drop a hundred if the jewels were added to the item shop. I'm never spinning the wheel again.
This kind of response is exactly why they won't put the jewels in item shop instead of wheel. The idea is not to put jewels in the item shop to make spinning the wheel pointless as that's obviously not ideal for both parties (Gameforge & The Players) since Gameforge obviously put a lot of work into making the wheel. I don't see why they would just do something to make it obsolete. We need to instead follow what Radium is suggesting and put the jewels in the shop while adding something else to the wheel to make it still worth spinning. I also like the idea of putting perfect +20's and they could also put in the +50% exp/tp potions that used to be in the old wheel. Maybe they could also change the random pets you get and put some pets that people would actually want (i.e. Executioner Puppet and Fell Snake). There's probably a bunch of other good suggestions for the wheel but I'll leave it at that.
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Friday, March 31st 2017, 9:32pm

If they had put half the time and money they wasted creating the wheel, which has caused more people to quit this game, into fixing some of the games problems there would far more people playing this game today. Instead they have created a wheel of misfortune which robes the players of real world money and chases people away from the game in droves. It is nothing more than an attempt to kill the game.

The best suggestion for the wheel is to eliminate it entirely and stop trying to cheat the people out of their money. Instead just put the items in the cash shop and let people actually get something for their money.\

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Saturday, April 1st 2017, 1:11am

The best suggestion for the wheel is to eliminate it entirely
That is most likely not going to happen, as it only appeals to the players. If you read the post you'll see that the suggestion appeals to both Gameforge and players by keeping the wheel (appeals to Gameforge) while putting jewels in item shop at a fixed rate (appeals to players) while perhaps adding better items like perfect jewels to the wheel so players will have more incentive to spin (appeals to both Gameforge and players).
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Saturday, April 1st 2017, 7:07pm

No matter what suggestions we make, no matter how well explained, proposed and how it makes sense, Gameforge will not implant it. How many players in game right now? not alts but actual players online?? How empty does it get after siege war times??

They could have kept the old wheel but someone came up with this brilliant idea of an item shop, just looks like they wanted more people to quit or move elsewhere. Just look at the amount of diamonds you get for 50$ US dollars?? at 140% 3310 diamonds come on lmao. People still buying diamonds here are sado-masochists and cannot use the other words i would like to use, but i think you get it.

No POM event in a year, lame 8th anniversary rewards, loyalty bonus is just a big slap in the face. Sadly i was really hoping Gameforge to pick the game up and make it great again!!! but we got stuck with Trump Gameforge subsidiary company hahahaa. But with so few diamond buyers left in game i doubt servers will stay open very long, unless they use it as a tax write off loses each year. :love:

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Saturday, April 1st 2017, 9:31pm

No matter what suggestions we make, no matter how well explained, proposed and how it makes sense, Gameforge will not implant it.
They actually added in crit to the new leather set when a post was made on it. So it's possible. Especially since this would make them more money.
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