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Thursday, August 2nd 2012, 2:44am

Alrighty then...

It took me an entire day... a pack and a half of cigarettes... frustration reaching 9 on my pissed-o-meter scale... but by golly... I finally have answers!!!

So... after a day of trying to enter my Credit Union Debit Card... the operative words in that sentence being "Credit Union"... I go to Walmart and buy one of those Visa Walmart Money Cards... came back... tried it in the Credit Card option and again got negative results.

Housemate says, "No problem. We'll go to an ATM... withdraw the money... and I'll use my Paypal card. Did they give you a pin number?" "Why no, I reply, I don't think they did." So... I log back in to their activation site... nope... no pin number. But lookie here... there's a number I can call.

I call the number. Some lady... speaking broken english from an obscure but familiar sounding dialect tells me, "Oh... you don't get a pin number on your temporary card... you get that with your permanent card."

To which I answer, "So you're telling me that the card I bought today, is absolutely useless to me until I get the permanent one?"

"No," she says, "You can use it as a credit card. But you can't use it as a debit card until you get the pin number."

That makes me wonder... So... I jump back on the computer... go to that Moneybooker site and lo and behold... it let me add THAT card."

I come on over to here... "poke" that credit card button... fill out the first info screen... get the Moneybooker screen... put in the info there and hold my breath as I push the button. Well... I didn't get that same screen I had gotten all day... instead... I get another asking for my email one more time and those three numbers on the back. Well... I'll be darned... this just might be working!!! I add those three numbers... hit the button to send the info and... "WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE BANK REFUSED IT?!?!?

I called that number back thinking... "The person that answers this call is gonna wish they called in sick today."

Another gal... whose english was so broken I could hardly understand it (and I was raised with a family that spoke heavily accented english)... she tells me that the reason my card was declined was that I was trying to use it in an overseas transaction. I can't use the temporary card in an overseas transaction... I can the permanent one... but not the temporary one.

Pretty ironic... the gal who can barely be understood is telling me I can't use this card in a foreign country. And where do you reckon she was sitting when she was telling me this? I didn't ask... but I could guess.

Anyway...

THAT is why I cannot use my Credit Union Card on here... THERE ARE NO FOREIGN BRANCHES!!! Moneybookers is in a different country!

She then tried to tell me that I could use the card for shopping or online purchases... I told her that was EXACTLY what I was trying to use it for!

They will be doing some sort of service thingy to that card on the 11th... they will be charging me $3. Yeah... right... I told her I was taking the darned thing out tomorrow... draining it dry... then I was going to cut it up into little tiny pieces... they were welcome to try to get their $3 service fee. (Long pause of silence on the other end of the line) Then... she told me that after I drained it... I could call and cancel it... yeah... right.

But... that phone call answered a LOT of questions.

Independent Banks... Credit Unions... have no foreign branches... THAT is why they don't work here... THAT is why Moneybookers didn't like my card!

So... the housemate gets paid tomorrow... we are going shopping. I am going to pay for $60 of his groceries... in return... we are coming back here and he is going to put $60 into diamonds on here for me.

I will spend them wisely... because I am NEVER going to buy another diamond through this exchange again. I'm gonna have to buy them in game just like a lot of other folks. I never want another repeat of today... ever.

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Thursday, August 2nd 2012, 2:52am

Er...
"Moneybookers USA, Inc. 61 Broadway, Suite 1603, New York NY, 10006, USA"
>.>;;;

Anyway you are having an outright horrible experience @_@ I am so sorry... I wish there was more that us on the forums could have done to help, but this is a pickle. ^^; I will say this much: it is easy to buy diamonds in-game from a seller as long as you only do business with trusted players, not scammers. I'm sure your experience is one of the reasons why people just prefer to trade amongst each other.

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Thursday, August 2nd 2012, 3:45am

Quoted from "EsxCape;562252"

Er...
"Moneybookers USA, Inc. 61 Broadway, Suite 1603, New York NY, 10006, USA"
>.>;;;



Well... they may have offices there... but the bank that Walmart Card uses says the account I was trying to stick money into was somewhere else altogether.

I'm not much of a people person. Gee... like you folks hadn't noticed. I don't like people much. Half the time they don't make sense and that makes my head hurt. I don't leave the house much. I'm one of those folks other folks whisper about. I don't mind... let them whisper. I don't much care what folks think about me. The thought of going all over Toledo trying to find stores that may or may not carry the cards I need to buy stuff on here... is not appealing. I like online stuff. I like to pay bills and shop right from the comfort of my safe little cave. I venture out maybe once or twice a month. So... if I can't buy RoM diamonds online... well... I guess that money can go to something else that I CAN get online. Today... I had to breach my comfort zone... and now I have to go out tomorrow too. I was not a happy camper. BUT... at the end of the day... I got answers... I'm gonna be getting that extra umph I need to progress in the game... I don't have to feel like I am urgrading my computer for nothing... and by next week... this will all be in the past.

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Thursday, August 2nd 2012, 4:29pm

Quoted from "Chaotique;562262"

Well... they may have offices there... but the bank that Walmart Card uses says the account I was trying to stick money into was somewhere else altogether.

I'm not much of a people person. Gee... like you folks hadn't noticed. I don't like people much. Half the time they don't make sense and that makes my head hurt. I don't leave the house much. I'm one of those folks other folks whisper about. I don't mind... let them whisper. I don't much care what folks think about me. The thought of going all over Toledo trying to find stores that may or may not carry the cards I need to buy stuff on here... is not appealing. I like online stuff. I like to pay bills and shop right from the comfort of my safe little cave. I venture out maybe once or twice a month. So... if I can't buy RoM diamonds online... well... I guess that money can go to something else that I CAN get online. Today... I had to breach my comfort zone... and now I have to go out tomorrow too. I was not a happy camper. BUT... at the end of the day... I got answers... I'm gonna be getting that extra umph I need to progress in the game... I don't have to feel like I am urgrading my computer for nothing... and by next week... this will all be in the past.


Chaotique- I use prepaid Visa's all the time to avoid the wife's wrath. Here is what you do.
Step 1. Register your card on the CC website.. This will put a zip code on your card (must do this).
Step 2. Add the card to Paypal. If you dont have one it takes 5 minutes tops to set up
Step 3. use whatever address you want just make sure the zip code you use in Paypal is the same as the zip code you registered on card.
Step 4. Buy diamonds using paypal option.. select the Prepaid Credit card from the Credit card list..
Step 5. Enjoy your sparkling pile of Diamonds

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Thursday, August 2nd 2012, 6:12pm

Quoted from "Mrpushpop;562323"

Chaotique- I use prepaid Visa's all the time to avoid the wife's wrath. Here is what you do.
Step 1. Register your card on the CC website.. This will put a zip code on your card (must do this).
Step 2. Add the card to Paypal. If you dont have one it takes 5 minutes tops to set up
Step 3. use whatever address you want just make sure the zip code you use in Paypal is the same as the zip code you registered on card.
Step 4. Buy diamonds using paypal option.. select the Prepaid Credit card from the Credit card list..
Step 5. Enjoy your sparkling pile of Diamonds


Of all the things I did... all the sites I visited... I never thought to take that card to Paypal. I guess because in trying to figure out where me and Paypal went wrong... I remembered they had asked for a routing number for my current debit card making me assume (and we all know what happens when you assume... I really need to stop doing that) that anything I connect to them needed a "bank" ie: Bank of America... Key Bank... Huntingtons... etc. I never thought for a moment to add THAT prepaid Credit Card to them. I'd still like to give their Customer Service Center a call and just ask "Why?" as there is and was never anything wrong with my current debit card.
You see... one of my problems with people is myself. I'm Bipolar. That also creates an issue with money. It took me years to catch on that I needed to really watch my spending. I guess it was because I was 40 before I was diagnosed. Once I understood the nature of the beast... I realized I had to tweak and really question my buys. Oh sure... I know sometimes I buy things during what I call a "Bipolar Moment" and know it at the time that it's my Bipolar whispering in my ear... but at those times, as I mull over, "Do I REALLY need that?" sometimes I just cannot find an arguement against whatever purchase I am making.
However... in learning to stop and take a breath... and having a debit card instead of a credit card... I am pretty proud to say that I have not gone out of my budget in about 9 years. For some folks that isn't an issue, but for me... it's HUGE. So when all of a sudden... Paypal just stopped letting me buy things from eBay I was... and still am... confused. I was always careful to pay the seller immediately after the auction even if it meant sitting on top of the computer waiting for the auction to end.
So... attaching that card to Paypal didn't even enter my mind.
I certainly didn't expect a waiting period when I bought that card. I have had friends send me Christmas and birthday gifts using various gift cards they had purchased (although no one ever sent me a pre-paid Visa debit card) and I assumed (there I go again) that when I paid for a card... I could use it right away in any manner I wished.
After the fiasco I went through trying to MAKE one of these places accept my perfectly good Credit Union Debit Card and after my obvious temper tantrum yesterday at the end of it here and on the phone... I still have a bitter taste in my mouth. Of course... this all comes after a month of crap that had nothing to do with finances, diamonds and Runes of Magic... so when I was so looking forward to just making a simple purchase and ended getting more crap... I exploded.

I really do owe a lot of folks here an apology for my outbursts... those they had to put up with... and those they were fortunate not to hear. I'd like to take this time to say I am truely sorry. I probably will attempt to buy diamonds again in the future after the sting of this goes away... but as I am new to the game and my toons are small... at this time outside of Breeding Slots and Permanent Mounts... and perhaps a driller... I really don't see the need to purchase any more any time soon.
Along with Bipolar comes insomnia and because I cannot see anything outside of Elven Isle during the games nighttime... I have one little toon hell bent on gathering and selling whatever she can from dusk til dawn and is doing quite well in getting armor and eggs and weapons for the other toons and the hours I spend doing that has been very productive.

And to the person that says this game isn't worth it... let me tall ya... when you sleep only 3 to 4 hours a day... boredom sends you to the fridge a lot. I have lost at least ten pounds these past three weeks because this game has given me something to do... something to focus on... and when you sit here telling youself, "Just one more ore... one more wood... one more plant..." time tends to fly and the fridge has stayed closed. Heck... I have practically lost everything I gained during the winter when I got so darned bored. So to me... the game is worth it.
Also... being the self inflicted shut in that I am... I figure that when the time comes for joining a Guild... interacting with other folk... even if it is in an online game... just might do me some good. So... to me... this game might actually be good therapy... and better for my health.

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Friday, August 3rd 2012, 11:14pm

Just in case anyone is curious...

My Housemate bought my diamonds at 4:00pm EST... by 11:00pm I gave up looking and went to sleep. When I got up at 3:45am... there they were!

Anywho... we went shopping today... at a different Walmart (actually the one closest to the house this time... the one USUALLY shopped at). Just for the heck of it... I looked to see if they had that Ultimate Game Card. No... they didn't. But do ya wanna know what they did have???

Runes of Magic Diamond Exchange Cards!!! $25

Now I ain't the brightest sandwich in the elevator... but I have a feeling that THOSE would work here. So... no more hassles about Paypal... MoneyBookers... Ultimate Game Cards... Debit Cards from Credit Unions... if I ever need to buy more diamonds... well... seems problem solved.

If my housemate would have gone THERE instead of the "Big" one closest to his parents house... it sure would have saved me a LOT of grief.

But at any rate... my toons are riding in style... and the one that REALLY needed the breeding slot has that... and I have a few hundred diamonds left over for whatever.

Thank you all for your help. And now you folks know that this place has cards of it's own and at least ONE Walmart in Ohio sells them. So if anyone ever goes through what I did... well... now there's an answer.

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Friday, August 3rd 2012, 11:17pm

I still stand by Zeevex always for buying diamonds. My problem with the RoM diamond cards is they don't stack, so you redeem two/three/four of them seperately, and get less diamonds total than you would have gotten with the equivalent amount of zeevex.
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